Lord Marshal Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Deodorant Optional Imperial Knights tomorrow. Edited May 17, 2023 by Lord Marshal Petitioner's City, Dark Shepherd, Iron Father Ferrum and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) And just like that disgustingly resilient is gone. I'm a sad panda... And they made their terminators movement 4" again. Sweet! Edited May 17, 2023 by Special Officer Doofy Ming the Merciless, Blight1, Tymell and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I have a feeling that FNP style abilities will be granted by units like the Apothecary, and the Death Guard equivalent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Not getting a look at either of our Battleline Troops kinda blows. Votaan can complain all they want, this article just stunk. And not in a good way! No troops, No PBC Full, no MBH, no Bloat Drones, not even mortarion! Snores-ville. At least the things we saw are sorta ok. More fuel for the Combi- fight. Wugo_Heaving, Aarik, Kallas and 4 others 2 3 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 No FNP is a surprise, especially when it doesn't seem they get anything else beyond their Toughness value to show them up as anymore resilient. Tymell, DuskRaider, Bulwyf and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 With the Plague ccombi-bolter, it might mean the Plague Marines get Plague bolters with lethal hits? VengefulJan, Blight1, Ming the Merciless and 5 others 1 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Lord Marshal said: No FNP is a surprise, especially when it doesn't seem they get anything else beyond their Toughness value to show them up as anymore resilient. As a DG only player I am so disappointed DuskRaider, Tymell, Bulwyf and 3 others 2 1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, WrathOfTheLion said: With the Plague ccombi-bolter, it might mean the Plague Marines get Plague bolters with lethal hits? Looks like. The pyschic’s bolt pistol had it. Wonder how they will deal with tanks? Everything they showed was very much anti-infantry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Reaper autocannon has Devastating Wounds and Sustained Hits! Oh my! Plague Spewers are ace too! Another notch for Combi-Weapons too. Axes and Swords being combined, much like Accursed weapons is nice. Looking forward to seeing what else DG get! Muskie, Petitioner's City and Bulwyf 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focslain Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Arikel said: Looks like. The pyschic’s bolt pistol had it. Wonder how they will deal with tanks? Everything they showed was very much anti-infantry Just about everything has Lethal Hits, so ignoring the vehicles high toughness will help quite a bit. Kind of sad to see DR gone as that gives credence to the rumor that wraith constructs lost their damage reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Disappointed! When toughness stretched to range of 3-14, either -1 toughness to opponent or 1 higher toughness on self profile doesn't make much sense. Bulwyf, Subtleknife, Special Officer Doofy and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicinal Carrots Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The Plaguecaster's pistol doesn't have the [pistol] rule, which is interesting. On the one hand, that means you can shoot it and the plague wind together. On the other, it means you can't shoot it in melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) It's a shame they didn't preview the Plague Marines and Mortarion, I would have assumed he was a given after seeing some (not all) other factions get their their epic heroes unveiled. I thing reducing the toughness aura is a good rule, and it will be an effective way of dealing with some of the vehicles that boast high durability, but it will require a combination of units to take advantage of it fully. From this brief glance it appears the faction will have an abundance of weapons with Devastating Wounds and Lethal Hits, but it's hard to judge at this point. Edited May 17, 2023 by Orange Knight VengefulJan 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 That is a blow up to Reaper Autocannons Ming the Merciless and AceofCase 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tokugawa said: Disappointed! When toughness stretched to range of 3-14, either -1 toughness to opponent or 1 higher toughness on self profile doesn't make much sense. The worst part (besides losing DR and the extra durability) is the contagion is the faction ability and not the detachment ability, which means I can't swap it out in 1+ years when they release the codex (cause GW can't make more than 9 codexes in the first year for some reason). Thanks GW! USNCenturion, Arkangilos and Bulwyf 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said: The worst part (besides losing DR and the extra durability) is the contagion is the faction ability and not the detachment ability, which means I can't swap it out in 1+ years when they release the codex (cause GW can't make more than 9 codexes in the first year for some reason). Thanks GW! Eh, I think there's a solid chance that the Faction abilities change with Codex releases. They haven't ruled that out, and some of these early index Faction Abilities are a little lackluster. DarkChaplain, Khornestar, USNCenturion and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said: Looking forward to seeing what else DG get! Less durability, less movement, pigeonholing into melee even though they are the slowest army in 40k, weapons still being strength 4-8, multi meltas only being S9, Mortarion probably losing his -1D and 5+++, characters like the plaguecaster joining squads and then not interacting with them unless they fail a test and causes mortal wounds to them. I'm looking forward too! Sky's the limit. VengefulJan, Subtleknife, Oxydo and 7 others 1 7 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tokugawa said: Disappointed! When toughness stretched to range of 3-14, either -1 toughness to opponent or 1 higher toughness on self profile doesn't make much sense. Conversely it makes those meltas a lot easier to stick and it helps them still chew through infantry like nobody's business with all the extra stuff on. 1 minute ago, Special Officer Doofy said: Less durability, less movement, pigeonholing into melee even though they are the slowest army in 40k, weapons still being strength 4-8, multi meltas only being S9, Mortarion probably losing his -1D and 5+++, characters like the plaguecaster joining squads and then not interacting with them unless they fail a test and causes mortal wounds to them. I'm looking forward too! Sky's the limit. Can I suggest putting a pin it for now? literally every faction preview people playing that faction have come out with sky is falling posts. If the sky is falling for all armies it means there's good odds of parity. VengefulJan, ZeroWolf, Petitioner's City and 16 others 1 5 13 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Arikel said: Wonder how they will deal with tanks? Bolters auto wounding on 6's might go some way, but I'm sure the entropy cannons will do some work. Seems interesting. Not as powerful as others, but still decent. Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Xenith said: Bolters auto wounding on 6's might go some way, but I'm sure the entropy cannons will do some work. Seems interesting. Not as powerful as others, but still decent. Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! Anti-Infantry is just that it wounds Infantry on 2s, if it had Devestating Wounds, that would activate on a 2+ instead of it's usual 6+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Xenith said: Bolters auto wounding on 6's might go some way, but I'm sure the entropy cannons will do some work. Seems interesting. Not as powerful as others, but still decent. Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! Just always wounds on a 2+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingYertle Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I am having trouble comprehending the decision to dump Disgustingly Resilient. DR has been the core ability of a Plague Marine for some 25 years. It was literally the heart and soul of the faction. Really makes the DG feel lackluster unless there is something significant that wasn't previewed. GW really just killed my excitement for 10th edition. Special Officer Doofy, MithrilForge, DarkChaplain and 9 others 5 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metzombie Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Xenith said: Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! No, it just means it will always wound on that value. To make it into mortals it would need to have "devastating wounds". Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blight1 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xenith said: Seems interesting. Not as powerful as others, but still decent. Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! No it just auto wounds on that value. Devastating wounds does mortals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xenith said: Bolters auto wounding on 6's might go some way, but I'm sure the entropy cannons will do some work. Seems interesting. Not as powerful as others, but still decent. Am I right in that the Anti Infantry just does straight mortals on the target value? Those will be deadly! Anti infantry x+ wounds infantry on x regardless of S vs T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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