Wh40k 10th Edition Chaos Space Marines Index

[TrawlingCleaner]

Death to False Emperor!

Edited June 15, 2023 by TrawlingCleaner

[danodan123]

I didn't expect the marks of chaos to be as such.. still digesting...

[Craig]

No wings option for the Daemon prince. Interesting.

Edit- I missed the separate sheet.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Craig

[ZeroWolf]

Just now, Craig said:

No wings option for the Daemon prince. Interesting.

There's a seperate data card for that, as it gives it different abilities.

[Burni]

No Chaos Knights with the rest of the Chaos army indexes?

 

Was there - just no thread yet:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/5I1cNt3t71dfd3jh.pdf

Edited June 13, 2023 by Burni

[Wraithwing]

Has Abaddon lost Extra Attacks on his weapon since the preview?

[danodan123]

Termies only get 1 chainfist, expected... but so not fair as the loyalists get to have a squad of them! :D 

[Redcomet]

Those marks of Chaos are odd. What a strange way to represent those

[Lord Marshal]

4 minutes ago, Burni said:

No Chaos Knights with the rest of the Chaos army indexes?

 

They forgot to put them on the Download Page for some reason.

[ZeroWolf]

Was Vashtorr's datacard in this lot? I could have sworn he was supposed to be in the demon index but he's not there.

[Craig]

Just now, ZeroWolf said:

Was Vashtorr's datacard in this lot? I could have sworn he was supposed to be in the demon index but he's not there.

He's at the bottom of the CSM one.

[danodan123]

Was hoping for a much cooler ability on the chosen datasheet! 

[Quantum]

I did not expect so many armies getting their Index published on the website; have I missed something and is every faction's index getting released for free?

[Cpt.Danjou]

4 minutes ago, Quantum said:

I did not expect so many armies getting their Index published on the website; have I missed something and is every faction's index getting released for free?

Short answer yes. Long answer yes.

 

 

Cpt. Danjou

[Blindhamster]

21 minutes ago, Wraithwing said:

Has Abaddon lost Extra Attacks on his weapon since the preview?

Never had it, and shouldn’t that would broken as all hell considering how many attack each weapon has 

[Kaiju Soze]

First glance says damage output is generally down so CSM players will have to risk troops self destruction to actually kill things. 

 

At least I can still use my Rubrics and 'zerkers.

[Quantum]

4 minutes ago, Cpt.Danjou said:

Short answer yes. Long answer yes.

 

 

Cpt. Danjou

...I'd better fill up the toner in my printer then 

[Cpt.Danjou]

Am I reading something incorrectly, but are the cultists, traitor guardsmen and beastman eligible to take marks?

 

Cpt. Danjou

[danodan123]

2 minutes ago, Cpt.Danjou said:

Am I reading something incorrectly, but are the cultists, traitor guardsmen and beastman eligible to take marks?

 

Cpt. Danjou

 

I believe everything can! 

[danodan123]

You can't shoot out the chaos rhino hatch for some reason :D 

[Bradeh]

41 minutes ago, danodan123 said:

Termies only get 1 chainfist, expected... but so not fair as the loyalists get to have a squad of them! :D 

 

When the loyalist Termies get updated with their multi-part kits and codex it's possible it will be the same scenario. 

[acrozatarim]

I'm... not underwhelmed, I'm not even just whelmed (though there are some dud entries). I'm... just feeling cautious. This might be reasonably balanced - points costs notwithstanding, of course? There's some interesting ways the pieces here could click together with the Marks, but there's a lot of limits on leader/unit interactions since, of course, we don't have  the sheer breadth of different sub-versions of characters that loyalists have. 

[Matrindur]

9 minutes ago, danodan123 said:

You can't shoot out the chaos rhino hatch for some reason :D 

Same for the TS and WE rhino while DG has firing deck on there 

[DemonGSides]

Well if you leave open the Thousand Sons rhino, all the dust will blow out and then you're just transporting armor.  And if the world eaters get a chance to look outside, they're just gonna rip the rhino open and start smashing.

DG have lots of extra orifices, so it stands to reason....

(Non cheeky answer is that they are bad at consistency, GW that is :P)

[TrawlingCleaner]

Just going through this Index and I tell you what, I'm a happy boy!

 

Huron is great, he's lost his toughness and wound boost he got in 9th but still has a bunch of tricks he can pull

 

The MoP is really useful, boosting Possessed to even higher levels

 

Lord in Terminator armour are suitably tough, Chainfists seem like a decent pick to go with

 

Sorcerers of both kinds are ace, both have a lot of utility

 

Lord Discordants have had a knock in their damage quite substantially, mainly due in part to loss in Relics but still has a lot of utility. Turning off a Knights shooting for a turn is potentially huge

 

Warpsmiths are the only model in the army that can go in Havocs which is an odd choice but Enrage machine spirits is particularly funny

 

Exalted Champions are actually great? They're not just a spikey copy of Lieutenant and give a genuinely good buff

 

Terminators are great, although don't really benefit form Abaddon's Reroll hits ability

 

Possessed are really, really good. Definitely the unit to keep an eye on

 

Bikes are ace, no longer 9 model units is sad though

 

Raptors are very handy to have in the pocket. Forcing Battleshock at -1 is super handy

 

Oblits can go up to 4 models in the unit and have a once per game Indirect option. They're going to be a problem unit, calling it now

 

Defilers looks aboslutely ace, moving over terrain and models as if they're not there and have very very good output

 

Both fiends are great, Maulerfiends really do have a place now in my opinion

 

Helbrutes are actually amazing? Just giving out free both parts of Dark Pacts? Wowee!

 

Vashtorr is actually good now too, bizarrely his 3 part choose 1 ability that was first of it's kind in 9th is now gone and now just gives a much better aura

 

In case you can't tell, I'm so so pleased with this Index. It may not be bonkers good but it looks a lot of fun most importantly!