loginomicon Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I will start by saying I like the design, he looks bulky and menacing. Although I feel like the design doesn't fit for a champion ? The bulkiness and everything feels more like a I siege breaker or something. Imagine him with a tower shield and a thunder hammer or a graviton gun or something. I also don't understands why games workshop comes out with a loyalist and traitor version of the same model ? It's so weird plenty of consul don't have a miniature or where exclusive and other factions don't have a preator I feel like Forgeworld has kind of a management problem ? like multiple teams are working on separate project but there's no roadmap if that make sense. They are releasing thing so randomly. Why to champion consul so close to each other release it's so weird Say what you want about GW and their release schedule. You might not like the influx of tanks that's being released but at least they follow the roadmap Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, Noserenda, tinpact and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 so the legs are basically stolen from upcoming "modern" plastic MK.III kit while torso is stolen from centurion warsuit kit, right? It looks like someone took tophalf of centurion warsuit and plonked it on new MK.3 legs and slapped backpack from it too, adding some armor panels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Huh, the extra detailing and extra greebles e.g. on the pack that makes it look a bit 3rd party are what make me really like this model! It feels like proper custom artificer plate for a high ranking officer without being too legion specific. That precise helmet wouldn't fit great in either of my legions, but that's an easy swap. Nice pose that's not too extreme but still has movement, I'd love to do a veteran squad with a bunch of those backpacks, given one of the known weaknesses of MKIII is the stock powerplant struggles with the weight. DemonGSides, Lord Marshal and Aeternus 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Awesome model. In fact I love it so much that I won't piratise him but ibstead order the model directly when I can at Forgeworlds website! GW is allowed to notice that they have done something right for once. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, Noserenda, Vesalius and 3 others 1 3 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) After after thinking a bit about it, the meteor symbol mentioned above really reminds me of the classic military symbol for the artillery/ordnance arm: https://ammochiefs.com/ordnance-insignia/ So this mini could be a good Siegebreaker with a mkVI nuncio-vox bit on top of its backpack: Edited September 14, 2023 by lansalt Doctor Perils, RolandTHTG, Gorgoff and 4 others 6 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Is the eye of Horus on the belt sculpted or simply painted on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinOcted Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Hmm, it's quite nice, but not outstanding for me. If I get it I'll need to swap the pauldrons, they're too big for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinpact Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 First thought was that he looks like a Transformer from the front. The helmet seems to look better from the side, at least - it's just the normal "knight" helmet with sort of a barbute-style plating on top. I like him more than the other one, at least. All in all I think he would be pretty much perfect without the second plate on his gorget. I might scrape that off and stick an icon in its place. lost_angel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Is the eye of Horus on the belt sculpted or simply painted on? Fairly sure it's sculpted. The 'pupil' looks like it's 3D with the way they've highligh-... oh, no, I'm not going there. Orange Knight and skylerboodie 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said: Fairly sure it's sculpted. The 'pupil' looks like it's 3D with the way they've highligh-... oh, no, I'm not going there. There's also 3 other eyes in the vanbraces and backpack, so this mini was pretty much designed as a Sons of Horus, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 The aesthetics are off but I do like the model. Definitely has a "notice me!" vibe and stands out in a crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 hours ago, GhostMalone said: Added to the project conversion list; throw on a breather shield and I have a nice zone mortalis contingent this bad boy would look good leading! Yeah, I'm interested in this one - I'd already been considering the new Chaos Warrior shields as stand-ins for boarding shields on some Iron Warriors, throw in one of their unique grav-maces or hammers instead of the sword and it should look pretty good, a nice "heavy" stance. The helmet also looks suitably similar to Pyroclasts' ones that it can find a home in my Salamanders once the spike has been cut off. tinpact, Xin Ceithan and skylerboodie 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I like this dude. My Heresy stuff is all Tortuga-scaled, so he's gonna be a bear to convert up, but it should be a fun project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: Is the eye of Horus on the belt sculpted or simply painted on? The belt eye seems to have a sculpted pupil, but the other ones that people referr to as eyes seems to lack that, making them eyes only if you want to paint them as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Looks very nice, though it looks more like what a DG/IW/IH/IF aligned artificer would artifice, instead of a distinctly traitorous one. Then again, the lines of distinction between traitor and loyalist designs are intentionally blurry. Hell, even the Eye of Horus/Aquila as a design element is non-specific with at least two legions (AL/EC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gideon stargreave Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Excellent proportions, excellent pose, brilliant silhouette all in all. But I see what others are saying. I absolutely agree with some fraters that the design of the armour is like the AI minis we see, there’s something about it that’s not warhammer if that makes sense. I think it’s the oblongs on the chest an knees that make me think of uparmoured infibirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I do think its funny that the Loyalist Champion has literally no gorget while the Traitor Champion has such massive chin armour that it looks out of place (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I really like the unhelmeted head. I mostly like the mini, but I'm not sure about the plastron or the gigantic shoulder pads. Those seem to be a fixture of 30k character design now, so I'd better get used to them, but I wish power armour could just have standardised pauldron sizes like the plastic kits do. The details are nice, I like the comet designs and the cloak. The way it's pinned to the shoulders is cool, although it seems to be covering a couple of the vents on his power plant... aren't those heat exhausts? I hope it's fireproof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Lexington said: I like this dude. My Heresy stuff is all Tortuga-scaled, so he's gonna be a bear to convert up, but it should be a fun project. If he's similar height to the plastic praetors I think he should fit just right in, they are bigger than MkVI and I feel should scale quite well to tortuga bodies. Lexington 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Orange Knight said: Is the eye of Horus on the belt sculpted or simply painted on? Looks like to me sculpted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL_Mission Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 A nice enough model though I would certainly want to switch out the back pack, I think the extra plates there are throwing me as it is others. The extra armour around the neck I don't mind. I could go either way on the head, if I ever did pick up this guy I think I would swap it out but this head isn't bad per se. He looks very imposing which I dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Astartes Consul said: I do think its funny that the Loyalist Champion has literally no gorget while the Traitor Champion has such massive chin armour that it looks out of place (IMO). The loyalist one looks like he has a DEX build with less armour for fast rolling, while the traitor opted for the high STR & high armour but swapped the combi for a pistol to not be completely bogged down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I'd say he'd make for a good Iron Hand but for the pickelhaube spike and the sculpted Eye of Horus. One's easier to remove than the other but both can be scraped off, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Brilliant mini. Very cool. Glad to see they played around with the armour design this time instead of just adding a bunch filigree and bits. One of the best parts of 30k artwork is the truly unique suits of artficier armour you see from different artists. I hope they keep up the trend of loyalist and traitor consuls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Iron Father Ferrum said: I'd say he'd make for a good Iron Hand but for the pickelhaube spike and the sculpted Eye of Horus. One's easier to remove than the other but both can be scraped off, I suppose... Use the bare head and chop along the pupil part and sculpt the eye back into a gem. I imagine he'd make for a good Salamander as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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