Old-Four-Arms Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Cruor Vault said: It's been pretty thoroughly confirmed at this point that the new MKIII kit uses the exact same accessory sprue as the MKVI (and the same special weapons sprues). You can see in the marketing photos that the Vox, Power Fist, Vexilla are used. So you're going to get 1 upgrade sprue per 10 MKIII (So 3x sprue in the battle box, 2x sprue in the solo squad box). No confirmation on chain bayonets since those are on the MKVI sprue directly, but I see no reason to think they wouldn't be on the MKIII as well. Worth noting that the bayonets/chain bayonets are a tight fit for the MkVI's Umbra-pattern bolt guns. Not so sure if they are compatible with the barrel of the new Phobos-pattern bolter. That being said, the new rounded foregrip of the Phobos bolt gun would fit very nicely in a Rann-style storm shield.. Edited October 9, 2023 by Old-Four-Arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, OttoVonAwesome said: Look at where the hips connect to the leg. Where the armour plate on the resin is well defined and has clear mechanical stuff behind it, but the plastic version just kind of has an ugly thick armour plate that molds into the hip? If so, yeah, I can see that now. I didn't see it at first, but now I have it's quite noticeable. Matcap86, Aarik and Fire Golem 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, matcap86 said: European Prices are up a bit early Huh, wonder why the MKIII Marines are 5€ cheaper than MKVI? The only reason I can think of is that its true that they won't have the chain bayonets as everything else on the sprue should be the exact same? Edited October 9, 2023 by Matrindur Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Battle group box £125 Deredeo £50 Mkiii box £45 The book has no price so presumably is direct order only. Lord Marshal and CL_Mission 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Toxichobbit said: Where the armour plate on the resin is well defined and has clear mechanical stuff behind it, but the plastic version just kind of has an ugly thick armour plate that molds into the hip? If so, yeah, I can see that now. I didn't see it at first, but now I have it's quite noticeable. Yeah ditto haha. Kinda wish I’d not asked now. Matcap86 and Xirix 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I was thinking of not getting this box, but at that price, and wanting some Mk3, it seems like a great deal! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 £125 is a very good price for that box. I was tempted anyway, but now I'm definitely going to have to have a word with the LGS. Mk III Marines will make good Word Bearers Legion Veterans/40k Chosen and a HSS, I've always had a soft spot for the Deredeo (daft as it is) and a second Land Raider is never a bad thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, OttoVonAwesome said: The lost leg detail on the deredeo is driving me nuts. Bit annoying, but I'll take it as it comes with the increased detail on the chassis and seemingly sculpted knee pads. Probably get choices of plain, imperial and traitor themes, like the Contemptor and Levi. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 So 88€ for that big box? Really? I find that hard to believe! :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, derLumpi said: So 88€ for that big box? Really? I find that hard to believe! :-D That's the trade price. RRP is 160€ or £125. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Ah, thx brother! Vassakov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 hours ago, Cruor Vault said: It's been pretty thoroughly confirmed at this point that the new MKIII kit uses the exact same accessory sprue as the MKVI (and the same special weapons sprues). You can see in the marketing photos that the Vox, Power Fist, Vexilla are used. So you're going to get 1 upgrade sprue per 10 MKIII (So 3x sprue in the battle box, 2x sprue in the solo squad box). No confirmation on chain bayonets since those are on the MKVI sprue directly, but I see no reason to think they wouldn't be on the MKIII as well. And what a sad upgrade sprue it is. Mostly the powerfist. That powerfist is so damn hideous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Potato Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I’ve got enough MkIII Marines that I can use these new ones specifically as Veterans for my VII Legion. So what I can’t wait for is for FW to discontinue the Imperial Fists MkIII heads just before I order 3 packs. Or I order three packs of heads now and miss out on the box set when the website crashes on Saturday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I mean, if you will want to pick up some of those MK3 anyway even if you don't get the box, then definitely grab the heads. If any of the legions I cared about had any MKIII bits that were readily available instead of just occasional MTOs and I wanted to use them eventually I'd be stocking up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I’m loving the MKIII so will eventually pick up a box. The only thing I have a doubt about them is the spike on the helmet. I’ll probably remove it and mix in some MKVI heads for flavour or do you think we’ll get MKIII head upgrades? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jud Cottrell said: I’m loving the MKIII so will eventually pick up a box. The only thing I have a doubt about them is the spike on the helmet. I’ll probably remove it and mix in some MKVI heads for flavour or do you think we’ll get MKIII head upgrades? Personally I am going to use 3D printed MKIV and MKIII helms for mine, with some plastics occasionally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I must say well done GW for offering both a bundle deal and separate boxes. Excellent. The drip feed of random upgrade bits though really annoys me. Why can't they make a plastic clamp upgrade set for each of the legions like the primaris ones? Primarks and such, sure, let FW handle that. Grunt helmets no way! If you're reading GW at least allow a LGS to order for customers. Flaherty, painting.for.my.sanity and Deus_Ex_Machina 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I think if it was plausible to do legion upgrades in plastic they would do, but i recall some rumblings that even the 40k ones arent doing as well as hoped a while back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Noserenda said: I think if it was plausible to do legion upgrades in plastic they would do, but i recall some rumblings that even the 40k ones arent doing as well as hoped a while back. GW kits are pricey enough without adding another 25-30% on top for the pleasure of having sculpted shoulders and some heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Potato Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cleon said: I mean, if you will want to pick up some of those MK3 anyway even if you don't get the box, then definitely grab the heads. If any of the legions I cared about had any MKIII bits that were readily available instead of just occasional MTOs and I wanted to use them eventually I'd be stocking up. Yeah, that’s just the additional £35 on top of the £125 box this month then. You’re right of course, much better to stock up now than if I wait and they go. It’s just a shame that the possibility of the FW MkIII heads disappearing with the launch of new MkIII is the most GW way that GW could do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sky Potato said: Yeah, that’s just the additional £35 on top of the £125 box this month then. You’re right of course, much better to stock up now than if I wait and they go. It’s just a shame that the possibility of the FW MkIII heads disappearing with the launch of new MkIII is the most GW way that GW could do it. At least you should be able to grab the box with a discount :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: GW kits are pricey enough without adding another 25-30% on top for the pleasure of having sculpted shoulders and some heads. Depends, i usually think its worth it as they look better (and i hate transfers) and its an aesthetic hobby for most. That said most of the FW sets are a bit crap for the money compared to the plastics or 3d printing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Noserenda said: Depends, i usually think its worth it as they look better (and i hate transfers) and its an aesthetic hobby for most. That said most of the FW sets are a bit crap for the money compared to the plastics or 3d printing. I'm the opposite, where I'm not a fan of sculpted pads, but I like transfers. One of the huge issues with the 40k upgrades is that they conflated the two, where the sculpted pads and the transfers are the same kit. At least with the FW offerings, they have the separate transfer sheets that you can pick up for your legion, or the sculpted pads if you want that. Edited October 9, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion grammar MegaVolt87, LSM and Lord Marshal 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 210 USD ain't TOO bad. However the FOMO limited release is what kills me the most. Would have the money by December but I am pulling quite a few hobby strings to make the pre-order date. Hopefully I won't see a repeat of my last pre-order fiasco I had with the Jetbikes: I pre-ordered the jet-bikes but never got my order processed. Then GW canceled my order the week prior to their price increase, forcing me to re-order them at the higher price... Edited October 9, 2023 by Spagunk MegaVolt87, Starlight_Wolf, Vesalius and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Spagunk said: 210 USD ain't TOO bad. However the FOMO limited release is what kills me the most. Would have the money by December but I am pulling quite a few hobby strings to make the pre-order date. Hopefully I won't see a repeat of my last pre-order fiasco I had with the Jetbikes: I pre-ordered the jet-bikes but never got my order processed. Then GW canceled my order the week prior to their price increase, forcing me to re-order them at the higher price... Did you put in a complaint? I certainly would have done. There are times whereby they'll do something. Worth a try if nothing else. Doctor Perils and Noserenda 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/14/#findComment-5993815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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