The Advent (Rumour) Engine 2023

[WrathOfTheLion]

36 minutes ago, EnsignJoker said:

That bomb design (minus the fuse) is literally on a Deathshroud terminator and dangling from Mortarion. 

There's also similar design language on Skaven with the two riveted together pieces like that, so they both share that kind of design.

[WrathOfTheLion]

11 minutes ago, EnsignJoker said:

Skaven poison wind bombs are glass though

 

edit: I haven’t noticed that design on Skaven. If you’re saying it’s on a model then I stand corrected. Still hoping it’s more Death Guard tho. 

Check out things like the Warlock Bombardier or the Stormfiends. Those have brass riveted spheres. I don't see any constituting an explosive, but that wouldn't be a stretch.

 

So it could be either one in my opinion, as both Death Guard and Skaven do have those motifs.

Edited December 13, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion

[TheMawr]

Alot of the guesses we made are for things further down the road/not even announced yet so, with all the AoS stuff lowering speculation, I wanted to do a thought excersize to see if some of these could be tied to much more iminent releases on the roadmap. Mind you that its entirely possible that this time around the rumor engines are simply not meant to represent the first part of next year. So a reminder, these are not meant to be things I think  are more likely than earlier guesses.. these are things they could be if they have to represent nearer releases .. with some stretching I went for the next 4 known 40k/HH releases ;

 

 

Now the last one especially is a stretch.. I dont even think the horus heresy has servo-skulls ? when researching it ( without conclusive result ) I came upon someone on this very forum wanting to do that as a conversion funnily enough. ( https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315030-wip-1905th-solar-auxilia-rust-scorpions/page/16/ ) I also couldnt find what exactly a Legion command squad has ( when googling its just leader + standardbearer ) This rumor engine is very likely not for any of those 4 imminent releases or another system, but these are the rules I set for myself.

 

As for the custodes, mind you the art is included just as a general idea, not a direct reference ( as that one was probably just creative license.. not concept art nor based on a miniature they held back.) However even without the bird ( wich is likely WHU anyway ) the fur cloak isnt likely custodes or sisters of silence as I dont think they can have purity seals or oath of moments. On the other hand its not like GW wouldnt make a very close concept copy of a very desired character in plastic (corteaz in this case.) and then make it be another character for another army instead. ( Malys/Yvraine )

 

The ork one.. I mean, it might be base decoration in the rumor engine, and base decoration very often is the themed towards the arch-nemesis of the owner of said base. Hence it was best to put there than the other 3.

 

The Dark angel ones are straight forward.

 

I didnt ( basically I forgot ) include the burning skeleton with crossbone seal.... but that one would be even harder to justify for the 4 imminent releases, however I think Necromunda is due a new box in the next couple of months and I believe the narrative is at a point where very fanatical cawdor are preparing for action. So that box might be Cawdor vs Something else. ( whoever has mutated claws for arms in necromunda )

[Orion]

On 12/12/2023 at 5:36 AM, TheMawr said:

 

Definitely 40k Imperium, looks like a Sheeted primaris judicar/justicar sword (?  the ronin like chaplainish miniature from Indomitus )... though I think Ive seen the kind of inscribed blade on others before.

 

 

 

Yeah, I'd also guess Judiciar sword from a Dark Angels upgrade sprue. 

Given the Black Templar upgrade sprue also had one.

 

 

My mate made a real similar sheath on his Judiciar

 

[CL_Mission]

Looks like everything is early today. This one is kinda obvious what it is but who it's for is still debatable, I think it's not marines but there's still a few options.

[Joe]

That's 100% Belial's storm bolter; it's the only one with that unique stacking on the magazines.

[TrawlingCleaner]

 

7 minutes ago, Joe said:

That's 100% Belial's storm bolter; it's the only one with that unique stacking on the magazines.

 

Definitely checks out!

[Orion]

18 minutes ago, Joe said:

That's 100% Belial's storm bolter; it's the only one with that unique stacking on the magazines.

You're likely correct about Belial, but those offset stormbolter sickle magazines are actually really common.

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by JayJapanB

[CL_Mission]

22 minutes ago, Joe said:

That's 100% Belial's storm bolter; it's the only one with that unique stacking on the magazines.

And Sammael is the only person in Imperium with a jetbike! I'm looking forward to a new Belial but I don't think this is necessarily him, if anything it has more differences than similarities to his Storm bolter; the general shape is different, the way the magazines meet the body is different. If it was Beliel I'd expect the emblem to have more swords. 

Overall it feel a bit more Millitarum-ish to me but it's mostly a just a feeling.

Edited December 14, 2023 by CL_Mission

[Halandaar]

Yeah Belial is what I thought the moment I saw it. The split magazines is the sort of detail GW are doing a good job of preserving when they update character models these days. It might not have been unique to him but it was a feature of his model, as is the strap, both of which are present and correct. Given we know a DA wave is imminent and Terminators are a big focus of this edition for Space Marines in general, it seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Halandaar

[Chapter Master Valrak]

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[Orion]

2 hours ago, CL_Mission said:

And Sammael is the only person in Imperium with a jetbike! I'm looking forward to a new Belial but I don't think this is necessarily him, if anything it has more differences than similarities to his Storm bolter; the general shape is different, the way the magazines meet the body is different. If it was Beliel I'd expect the emblem to have more swords. 

Overall it feel a bit more Millitarum-ish to me but it's mostly a just a feeling.

Yeah, the Imperialis on the side is throwing me off.

It's a super weird choice if it is Belial, but it's also not unreasonable to be on a Terminator Storm Bolter.

 

[MoriyaSchism]

3 hours ago, CL_Mission said:

Looks like everything is early today. This one is kinda obvious what it is but who it's for is still debatable, I think it's not marines but there's still a few options.

I know that it's most likely part of the upcoming Dark Angels release, but I really want it to be an Inquisitor in Terminator Armour.

[Sergeant Centurion]

Probably Dark Angel storm bolter, but i wish its the storm bolter of Yarrick, i know he´s SB dont have that emblem, but hey, i can dream!

[Marshal Reinhard]

3 hours ago, JayJapanB said:

You're likely correct about Belial, but those offset stormbolter sickle magazines are actually really common.

 

While I agree in general with regards to historical prescedent, it's perhaps also imoprtant to note that so far among the new terminators we've only had the double box variant of storm bolter ä, unless I'm forgetting one

[Orion]

54 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

While I agree in general with regards to historical prescedent, it's perhaps also imoprtant to note that so far among the new terminators we've only had the double box variant of storm bolter ä, unless I'm forgetting one

You're right about that, but I'm not sure if that makes it Belial's signature piece of wargear, when I can think of at least 18 different plastic storm bolters that have that magazine setup. 

The strap is much less common.

 

And like I said, it's likely Belial, but I just don't think, or didn't think, that it was a particularly unique aspect of him. 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by JayJapanB

[Marshal Rohr]

4 hours ago, CL_Mission said:

Looks like everything is early today. This one is kinda obvious what it is but who it's for is still debatable, I think it's not marines but there's still a few options.

Not sure what this could be. Do you guys think it’s Old World?

[SteveAntilles]

It's obviously Commissar Yarrick returning from the dead.

[Bryan Blaire]

Storm bolter with Chaos-like arrow head on the strap (DA used to use those too, so maybe a bit of nostalgia there), plus the Imperialis on the weapon body, and the fancy trim (doesn’t necessarily look raised though), and the strap - could be a DA DW Terminator bit, or might be fancy enough for Belial’s kit.

 

I would hope for some more of the Deathwing emblem motif on the weapons though, if it is part of a squad kit.

[Kharn13]

The script looks the same as the new knights.

[Kharn13]

Flames and cross-bones, could it be Huron’s base? :)

[TheMawr]

6 minutes ago, Kharn13 said:

Flames and cross-bones, could it be Huron’s base? :)

 

Funnily I was just looking if crossbones had any reference to him... but why would he burn mutants ?

 

edit: but all his visual representations apart from the current miniature to involve lots of arsony

Edited December 14, 2023 by TheMawr

[Alby the Slayer]

Today Image.

 

 

Imperial Agents? The banana style mags doesn't scream Astartes to me.

[Cactus]

5 minutes ago, EnsignJoker said:

Funnily enough, that skull wing motif is on Yarricks chest…

Isn't the winged skull the symbol of the Imperial Guard?

 

What strikes me is that the emblem is on the left side, unlike all the right-handed terminator storm bolters. Who had a left-handed sickle-magazine storm bolter with strap? Commissar Yarrick.

[Shadrach03]

11 minutes ago, EnsignJoker said:

Only question is why would they kill off Yarrick only to release a new model. 

A new challenger approaches...

Poxwalker Yarrick, The Bane of Armageddon.