Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 08:34 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 08:34 AM @Lord_Ikka hey mate, just a heads up, the FAB will definitely bring down the BL, but leaving engagement to do it will trigger an opportunity Attack first. Obviously it will have to roll to Hit, and you haven't used your Dodge yet, so you're probably ok, but I just wanted to check you were happy with that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted Thursday at 08:37 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:37 AM That's fine- I can't shoot a shotgun if I'm in engagement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 01:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:13 PM The fate point rules mention that they can be used in reaction to another characters action - could Omoc have used a fate point to join in Gerhardts call to action when it was made? (seems like a more thematic way to absorb a little of that damage rather than just spending a fate point to heal) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted Thursday at 01:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:17 PM (edited) Please disregard Edited Thursday at 06:14 PM by Machine God Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 01:48 PM (edited) 36 minutes ago, A.T. said: The fate point rules mention that they can be used in reaction to another characters action - could Omoc have used a fate point to join in Gerhardts call to action when it was made? (seems like a more thematic way to absorb a little of that damage rather than just spending a fate point to heal) Do you mean Gerhardt activating the Armour of Faith Mode? And you'd spend the FP to rejoin Squad Mode and thereby benefit from it? The problem is, as I said to Necro, that you've actually already used a Squad Action (Bolter Assault) in your Turn 1, so AoF would only be able to come into effect in your Turn 2 (but to keep life simple I was allowing it to work for everyone right from the start of Round 2) but it can't affect the Bloodletter attacks in R1? Sorry, I probably should have done it by the book and got Necro to delay calling that Squad Mode until it was actually his Turn in R2, might have kept it clearer in my head! Edit: also, sorry for the delay in doing Orochi's actions in R2, I'm just checking some stuff to make sure I've got it right... Edited Thursday at 01:51 PM by Lysimachus Machine God and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM Sorry for the confusion! Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:14 PM Ah, ok. The rules on 219 are a bit vague as they state that marines cannot benefit from more that one squad action (bonus moves, attacks, reactions, etc) - but also seem to imply that squad modes that don't grant actions are grouped in anyway unless otherwise stated... despite not stating otherwise anywhere even for things like Rally Cry. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 03:29 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 03:29 PM I agree completely, very vague indeed! I'm surprised that the Errata doesn't clarify any further! It does say that a Sustained Squad Mode can be stopped to use a more active Squad Action (like BA, etc) and then you can go back to using the Sustained Mode without having to pay CP for it again? So stuff like Corruption Resistance or Armour of Faith could be started, then paused, and then gone back to after a BA was used and finished... ...but I still can't see anything that says you can benefit from more than one Mode in each Round? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6136963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted Thursday at 06:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:38 PM @Lysimachus - GM please could you answer a couple of questions: 1) Asterius attacked Orichi in Round 1 in the Bolter Assault. Does this mean that he may attack Orichi with Swift Attack or must he start the ball rolling with a Standard Attack? 2) The Eldar Prince told us all about Orichi and we found Skaayn's body. So given that we know about Orichi not being Human can we 'Count Him' as a Xenos? Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM @Machine God well there are a few alternatives here: 1. He could be a xenos 2. He could be an Alpha Legion operative who has subjected himself either to surgeries to look like Skaayn or otherwise has a very healthy satrophine habit (my money is on this one) 3. He could be Changeling or some other sort of daemonic shapeshifter Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Necronaut said: @Machine God well there are a few alternatives here: 1. He could be a xenos 2. He could be an Alpha Legion operative who has subjected himself either to surgeries to look like Skaayn or otherwise has a very healthy satrophine habit (my money is on this one) 3. He could be Changeling or some other sort of daemonic shapeshifter Oh, he's from Swindon. Edited Thursday at 08:14 PM by Mazer Rackham Lysimachus and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM 4. Orichi was lying. - but on the face of what we have seen this is the least likly. Also while two seems likly, he could be a trasnhuman with a diferent alegiance, not all shady guys are Alpha (though it feels like 8 out of 10 are) Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM (edited) @Machine God 1) In R2 Asterius will be free to act as normal... but I have rolled for Orochi, be warned it's not great for the Blackshield, sorry. Will post IC in a sec. 2) @Necronaut has it about right with idea 2. Alpha Legion were known for infiltrating the Raven Guard, so well that they were almost impossible to detect. Orochi doesn't really consider himself part of his Legion any more, though. He's very much out for his own interests. And a lovely big house just outside Swindon, of course. Edit: Also, I should mention that I'm attending a wedding tomorrow afternoon/evening, so my presence will be limited or non-existent after lunchtime (unless it's really tedious and I end up logging in on my phone... I'm not super close to the couple! ) Edited Thursday at 09:59 PM by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted yesterday at 06:22 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 06:22 AM @Mike Zulu Obvs Corruption Resistance is over and done now, but you'll still get the +10 to your Wp test to act. And the test itself is Challenging (+0) this time. If passed you can act as normal this Round. Mike Zulu 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted yesterday at 06:40 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 06:40 AM By the way, a note to everyone - I've been thinking about what I was discussing with AT yesterday about the difference between 'passive' Sustained Squad Modes (like Armour of Faith or the Ultras' Lead By Example) and active Action based ones (like Bolter Assault or Furious Charge) and I've decided it doesn't make sense for the passive ones to count towards your 1 Squad Action limit. But I will stipulate that you can only have 1 passive Mode running at any given time, and you only get 1 Squad Action (one that actually gives you extra Actions) per Round. So, AoF is now paid for, up and running, done. But if you wish to convert enough FP into CP to pay for it (as you only have 1 in the bank at the moment) then I will allow you to do a Squad Action of your choice in Round 2. Does that all make sense/seem reasonable to everyone? Trokair, Machine God, Mike Zulu and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) @Lysimachus - I will try to sort out my messy spoiler issue later. I looked at Disengage but it would only have taken Asterius 14 metres back as its a Half Move. That would land him in the middle of the Blood Pool. So I thought he'd go out in a blaze of glory Full Berserk. The Gene-seed won out in the end. Perhaps his death will attract a load of Bloodletter's and annoy Orichi. Of course I forgot about the Iron Halo. "Tis but a scratch!" Edited 21 hours ago by Machine God Typo Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Quick men - the GM's off to get trollied and stuffed with cake! Victory is in our clutches! Roll dice! Roll dice like you're a 15,000 pts Grot Infantry formation! Necronaut, Lysimachus and Machine God 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Quick men - the GM's off to get trollied and stuffed with cake! Victory is in our clutches! Roll dice! Roll dice like you're a 15,000 pts Grot Infantry formation! <Rolls three fistfuls of dice> ALL MISSES?! STUPID ARMY MATT WARD STUPID ORKS! <Flips table, storms out> Edited 8 hours ago by Necronaut Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/382101-deathwatch-murderers-in-black-ooc-thread/page/63/#findComment-6137209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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