Legions Imperialis Legions Imperialis reinforcements

[Interrogator Stobz]

I'm happy to wait a few weeks due to the shipping route issue; but the lack of announcements of stock arrival and miniscule amount available usually sees me missing out.

 

[SkimaskMohawk]

1 hour ago, Matcap86 said:

 

I'm having a ball remaking my HH dream armies in tiny scale with all the details. Worse models would've seen me not get any.

 

Less detail doesn't necessarily mean worse models, it just means...less unnecessary details. The tactical marines are bad models; fewer/different details on them would have made better overall models. 

 

But apparently those models weren't enough to deter you, so how bad do they need to get? Would a pod that didn't open break the deal? A rhino who's exhausts are less well defined? Like again, those tacs aren't good models, but were largely excused by being so cheap points wise and the like 12 bases. If you got like 12 pods that were closed would that be a fair compromise?

 

 

[Noserenda]

Id definitely prefer less detailed pods, right now they are hilariously expensive and the very thought of building the drop pod again but at a quarter of the size is maddening, Ive built an entire drop company, never again! 

[Matcap86]

5 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

 

Less detail doesn't necessarily mean worse models, it just means...less unnecessary details. The tactical marines are bad models; fewer/different details on them would have made better overall models. 

 

But apparently those models weren't enough to deter you, so how bad do they need to get? Would a pod that didn't open break the deal? A rhino who's exhausts are less well defined? Like again, those tacs aren't good models, but were largely excused by being so cheap points wise and the like 12 bases. If you got like 12 pods that were closed would that be a fair compromise?

 

 

 

My dude, I drill the barrels on my LI infantry and freehand the squad markings.

 

So: the more detailed the better for me. If the tactical squad was in multiple pieces like the support squad to avoid the silly flash, I'd be a lot happier with them.

 

Most vehicles also consist of only at most 5-8 pieces. Sure the leviathan and droppod are complex, but those aren't indicative of 90% of the range. Just like almost all infantry look better than the tactical squad. 

 

This is (partly/for me mostly) a model  building hobby and I've honestly never looked at point costs to determine whether a model is good enough. If the droppods were closed design I probably would be pretty disappointed in them and maybe not get them or look for 3dprinted alternatives.

[Petitioner's City]

3 hours ago, Matcap86 said:

 

My dude, I drill the barrels on my LI infantry and freehand the squad markings.

 

But you can accept you aren't the average hobbyist ? However I am not sure if GW is aiming at your level of dedication, rather than that of the average hobbyist who isn't going to do that? 

Edited April 14 by Petitioner's City

[Matrindur]

6 hours ago, Matcap86 said:

 

My dude, I drill the barrels on my LI infantry and freehand the squad markings.

 

So: the more detailed the better for me. If the tactical squad was in multiple pieces like the support squad to avoid the silly flash, I'd be a lot happier with them.

 

Most vehicles also consist of only at most 5-8 pieces. Sure the leviathan and droppod are complex, but those aren't indicative of 90% of the range. Just like almost all infantry look better than the tactical squad. 

 

This is (partly/for me mostly) a model  building hobby and I've honestly never looked at point costs to determine whether a model is good enough. If the droppods were closed design I probably would be pretty disappointed in them and maybe not get them or look for 3dprinted alternatives.

2 hours ago, Petitioner's City said:

 

But you can accept you aren't the average hobbyist ? However I am not sure if GW is aiming at your level of dedication, rather than that of the average hobbyist who isn't going to do that? 

 

Also its not just more parts for more details but harder build experience or less parts for less details but easier to build but also the number of drop pods for your money. 

 

If I had to choose and its only about the number of parts I would prefer the nicer drop pods with more parts.

But If I could get double the drop pods for the same price I would always take the hit to details especially since they still wouldn't look bad, just not as detailed as now and likely without the moving doors.

Edited April 14 by Matrindur

[irlLordy]

Yeah, in general, I've been very impressed with the tanks (and planes before that), they look fantastic, and have all the detail you want at that scale. For the drop pods though, I think they went too far in making them scale replicas of the bigger models.

 

For what they are in the game (4pt markers that don't actually move), the contruction is overly complicated, and the number of pieces mean you don't get nearly enough in a box to use in an actual game. They're supposed to be gaming pieces and the current box just doesn't succeed very well at that, too complicated, too expensive.

[Matcap86]

1 hour ago, Petitioner's City said:

 

But you can accept you aren't the average hobbyist ? However I am not sure if GW is aiming at your level of dedication, rather than that of the average hobbyist who isn't going to do that? 

Oh sure, but that's why I still need to put in quite a bit of extra modelling work here and there. I also expect the specialist games department is internally seen as aimed at a bit more experienced/niche hobbyists

 

I think GW on the whole manages to hit the right balance in this range with a few notable exceptions. I.e. Astartes tacticals on the one hand with too little accomodation for the detail and the droppods on the other hand being very intensive. (Though, for me, still quite acceptable).

 

 

[Pacific81]

I find it pretty funny that Legions is most likely aimed at guys in their 30s and 40s, while trolling us with the amount of absolutely tiny detail on the minis (inc. the assembly) and having to identify WYSIWYG on weapon loadouts and a 2mm weapon piece from 4ft away with our 40yr-old fading eyesight.

[Dark Shepherd]

4 hours ago, Pacific81 said:

I find it pretty funny that Legions is most likely aimed at guys in their 30s and 40s, while trolling us with the amount of absolutely tiny detail on the minis (inc. the assembly) and having to identify WYSIWYG on weapon loadouts and a 2mm weapon piece from 4ft away with our 40yr-old fading eyesight.

"our market research says married men dont feel they can make BIG warhammer purchases" :)