Lysimachus Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) That all makes perfect sense to me. I only have 1 unresolved question. The Laser Hybrid is currently attached to the Horde. If one of us Charged that Horde, the Hybrid would also become Engaged, and therefore it would be unable to fire its Laser (because no firing Heavy weapons in Melee). It would have to Move away, and leave the protection of the Horde, in order to fire its primary gun? Edited February 13 by Lysimachus Xin Ceithan and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Q: What is the To Hit Modifier for a 20 Mag Horde? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 @Mazer Rackham lol @ the shot to Ukalegon's head with the mining laser, by the way. I see how it is! You're going to need to work harder than that if you want me to roll up a new character! Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 39 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: That all makes perfect sense to me. I only have 1 unresolved question. The Laser Hybrid is currently attached to the Horde. If one of us Charged that Horde, the Hybrid would also become Engaged, and therefore it would be unable to fire its Laser (because no firing Heavy weapons in Melee). It would have to Move away, and leave the protection of the Horde, in order to fire its primary gun? As per BC Core rules on Melee, yes. It has already acted, and therefore cannot detach. Since it is part of the Horde it will indeed be considered engaged. 12 minutes ago, Machine God said: Q: What is the To Hit Modifier for a 20 Mag Horde? The Horde is 20 Mag, but the Bonus is only +10, as Magnitude does not always relate to size, but fighting capability. Machine God, Necronaut and Xin Ceithan 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Mazer Rackham lol @ the shot to Ukalegon's head with the mining laser, by the way. I see how it is! You're going to need to work harder than that if you want me to roll up a new character! Me? Nah. All I have to do is wait.... Lysimachus, Xin Ceithan, Trokair and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 25 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Me? Nah. All I have to do is wait.... Well, stop waiting and roll up Horde 2's actions, so we can get on with krumping stuff, eh? Seriously, anyone would think you'd spent all afternoon answering people's daft questions or something... Trokair, Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Was double checking Called shots to get my action right and noticed two things. 1. Called shot is a full action, so I can’t aim and call shot in the same turn, and without aim and the accurate bonus the long-las is not that great. 2. single standard attack give +10 to hit if I read p239 correctly, defiantly forgot that a bunch, oops. So, do I do a turn of aiming (or half move half aim) so as to called shot the Mining laser next turn, or do I just called shot now and hope that even without the aim + accurate bonus I can do useful damage. Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/11/2025 at 8:59 PM, Mazer Rackham said: His pride is Foresight, funnily enough, …. Didn’t see that one coming, ey?! On 2/12/2025 at 2:39 PM, Necronaut said: … Eventually, most sorcerers (read: me) grow weary of barely failing their manifestation tests and decide that casting all of their spells at the unfettered and push level all the time is actually entirely socially acceptable. I can just about see it now Necronaut, Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said: I can just about see it now That'll be that Foresight, then... Machine God, Lysimachus and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: That'll be that Foresight, then... Yes but is his Sight Picture correct? Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, Machine God said: Yes but is his Sight Picture correct? He knows what he's doing, me on the other hand - just a bad case of Wandering Zero... Lysimachus, Xin Ceithan and Machine God 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 What are the dimensions of the room? Kraggan has a Charge of 11 metres. Is the RH Horde in reach of his Charge? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 37 minutes ago, Machine God said: What are the dimensions of the room? As per IC: On 2/9/2025 at 12:44 PM, Mazer Rackham said: 'BRIMSTONE' COMMAND CENTRE: GM NOTES: Floors 1 and 2 are 30m in diameter, and 5m high, with flat ceilings and floors, Floor 3 is 30m in diamater, with a domed ceiling peaking at 8m. The floor beyond the stairwell is concave, and tiered, with each concentric ring of cogitator banks 2m in elevation above the inner, accessed by ramps. 37 minutes ago, Machine God said: Kraggan has a Charge of 11 metres. Is the RH Horde in reach of his Charge? Unfortunately not, due to distance, and they're behind a 'fighting barricade'. A Charge action needs 4m clear to make engagement. My guidance would be to make your Pinning Test first, see what happens, then get to cover behind the barrels and crates. It's what they're there for. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sadly, things are going to be a bit touch and go here, since my mother-in-law died last night. I‘ve already pm‘ed Mazer that I‘ll try to keep up as well as possible and not having to rely on his crooked dice, but my prose might be a bit more limited. I‘ll leave these here for the current round Dodge 56 (Fail - unless there is some Astartes gimmick ) Pinning 15 ( pass ) Trokair, Machine God, Lysimachus and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 Thanks for letting us know, Xin. We're here for whenever you need us. I regret I doubt there's any gimmicks we can use, but bonus points for trying. @Trokair's kneecap has actually raised a bit of a thorny thicket. I stated 'maybe in cover' due to your handedness and posture - which is doing my noggin a little as checking your sheet, you're left-handed. This would mean if you're to the left of the door, we have a problem, since to maintain cover you'd be leaning around using your Off-hand, which would incur a further -20 to the shot IIRC. If you're 'standing off' the door a little to use your left hand, this means you would have to be completely outside cover for a clear aim/shot. I'm in a quandary about this, and therefore I think we're going to have to trust to chance. I will roll 1D6, with Even numbers favouring cover, and Odd numbers otherwise. If your leg proves to be in cover, however, this may mean you are using your Off-hand. Considering you've been Pinned, I think you may have ost the Aim bonus anyway, but I'd like to hear your thoughts about this first. Trokair and Xin Ceithan 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 @Mazer Rackham I believe Tarh is ambidextrous, it's just not listed correctly on the front page of his character sheet. Trokair and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 (edited) Appreciate the shout. Yes, I see it now. In that case, then, a straight Dice roll. D6 = 2, Even, leg is in cover. EDIT: Just checking the Pinning, Evasion and Aiming interactions, the aim is unfortunately lost, and Tarh counts as Pinned. Half actions only until you snap out of it with a WP Test at the end of your next Turn. You may not leave cover other than to retreat, but since you're in cover, @Trokairyou will get a +30 Bonus as per BC Core. If a Player is Pinned and is not in cover, they must seek it immediately, if they can get to it, or flee. Edited February 14 by Mazer Rackham Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) I did pick up ambidextrous precisely so I could stop worrying about handedness, just forgot to update the front sheet, sorry, have now corrected. I had assumed that pinning would force me to lose the Aim. Also if I remember the map correctly the multi-laser is in roughly the same direction as the mining-laser hybrid, so I don’t think there is a way to comply with pinning requirement to go to or stay in cover and draw a line of sight on the target. Up to your dice then, do I have a leg. Edit: and I see the dice where kind. I have marked the 10 damage on my character sheet. Edited February 14 by Trokair Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) "It's the Awooga Waltz!" Edited February 14 by Machine God Looks like the second Doom Bolt didn't even cause 1 Mag Damage Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6094962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 No, I think two of them did, I was just busy. I'll fix it in a bit. Mr @Lord_Ikka, if you are feeling fruitful and wordsmithy, sir, could I tempt you into a brief scene shift to your bad (virtual) self? Don't need special unless you're up to waxin' lyrical... Lord_Ikka and Machine God 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Question- is the Self Destruct code more of a disable than "big badda boom" code? Otherwise... Machine God and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 What's the point of a Self Destruct Code if it "doesn't do what exactly what it says on the Tin?" Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Well, the point was to stop the cult from gaining further access to the asteroid's systems, not to finish the game off entirely with a rather large bang. Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, Lord_Ikka said: Question- is the Self Destruct code more of a disable than "big badda boom" code? Otherwise... From how he's telling you, there's enough for Crux'As to doubt either of the codes are real, or indeed do what they purport. 4 minutes ago, Machine God said: What's the point of a Self Destruct Code if it "doesn't do what exactly what it says on the Tin?" I'm glad you asked! In 723.924.M37 a court case on Hypraxia Tertio was brought by Imperial Guard Commissar Faustian 'Ronseal' Blick against the Departmento Munitorium, detailing that the codes given to him for the 'Atraxxes Doomsday Bomb Mk 13' did not work to completely destroy Hive Terentes during the Tenth Black Crusade, which was almost overwhlemed by mutants. He stated that due to a faulty instruction manual, the hive was not vaporised and the Imperium was forced to expend 1,337 magma bomb warheads to destroy the building, and the insurrection. Defending the case under Trade Descriptions, the Departmento Representaive stated that the 'Guarantee of Absolute Repentence' was actually a marketing instruction to Guardsmen of low morale, and therefore not a condition of function. This enraged Blick, who shot the man in court, and was in turn summarily executed by the Judge for a lack of jurisprudence. In order to prevent an outbreak of low morale, an asterisk was ordered added to all 'Atraxxes Doomsday Bomb Mk 13' units, which read: * = Results may vary. This new procedure has yet to be vetted by the Departmento Munitorium, and is expected to be fully processed in 369.991.M43 due to the large quantity of ordnance manufactured. Lord_Ikka, Machine God, Trokair and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) @Mazer Rackham if I'm reading this right: the rest of the gsc horde has shuffled over and bonked Ukalegon on the noggin. Further the CCW hybrid has adopted a defensive posture and not attacked. All good so far? Next: what is the horde magnitude? And I can't actually parry that attack from the horde can I? My reading of your encounter rules was my character could dodge/parry enemy character attacks but it was situation normal with the hordes. Edit: I feel like my best option might be to make an AOA vs the horde to try to whittle them down a little, or otherwise attempt a called shot with the melta pistol vs the hybrid. I'm open to advice. Edited February 15 by Necronaut Machine God and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/46/#findComment-6095141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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