[BC] The Blackest Heart (OOC)

[Trokair]

Do spent Infany points reset at this point?

[Mazer Rackham]

49 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

 

If you will allow us the +d5 Infamy and Corruption for it being a Dedicated Compact, I will willingly take the minimum Inf I need (+2) but the maximum Corruption (+5) without rolling!

 

As the Anointed of the Compact, I think this is fitting...so agreed.

 

Although I am tempted to do a one-size fits all, here...but because I am a fair GM, the other Players will have to suffer the rando numbers:

• 1D5 Inf = 4
• 1D5 CP = 4

Also, since the compact was dedicated to Khorne, all Players who participated in the Compact gain +1 Khorne Alignment shift, as thanks to Necro, I now remember why I said what you do counts for alignment. Double-check your CP's gentlemen, as some of you may have enough CP to gain another malignancy. If you do, shout up, and you can work with me to resolve it.

 

As before, if you do not have a malignancy as yet, The Lustful Hue will always count as your first.

 

New players of course, exempt of these...rewards.  For now....

 

26 minutes ago, Trokair said:

Do spent Infamy points reset at this point?

 

Spent, yes.

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Mazer Rackham

[Trokair]

9 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Although I am tempted to do a one-size fits all, here...but because I am a fair GM, the other Players will have to suffer the rando numbers:

• 1D5 Inf = 4
• 1D5 CP = 4

Also, since the compact was dedicated to Khorne, all Players who participated in the Compact gain +1 Khorne Alignment shift, as thanks to Necro, I now remember why I said what you do counts for alignment. Double-check your CP's gentlemen, as some of you may have enough CP to gain another malignancy. If you do, shout up, and you can work with me to resolve it.

 

As before, if you do not have a malignancy as yet, The Lustful Hue will always count as your first.

 

 

 

Away from books at the moment, Coruption trigers at intervals of  5 or 10?  Tarh went from 3 to 7 so I think I am good  as brain is saying 10, but as this is a chaos game i wasnet sure if the threshold had been adjusted.

[Machine God]

9 hours ago, Necronaut said:

@Mazer Rackham awesome, thanks for that. Ukalegon has 1 Infamy point again (lol).

 

Not to nitpick, but as this was a dedicated compact (to Khorne), are we entitled to any bonus infamy and corruption (+1d5 each for the successful completion of said compact) per the rules as stipulated on p. 272?

 

 

 

Compact to Khorne with the detrimental effect on any Psyker-Types? 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lysimachus]

2 hours ago, Trokair said:

 

Away from books at the moment, Coruption trigers at intervals of  5 or 10?  Tarh went from 3 to 7 so I think I am good  as brain is saying 10, but as this is a chaos game i wasnet sure if the threshold had been adjusted.

 

I think first Chaos Gift is at Corruption 10, then it changes depending on whether you are Mortal or Astartes?

 

But I'm not sure about Minor Malignancies... I thought stuff like the dislike of pink was just by GM fiat? Is there a threshold for gaining these?

 

Hagga has gone from 4 to 9 CP, so no Gift yet, but possibly a Malignancy?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Machine God said:

Compact to Khorne with the detrimental effect on any Psyker-Types? 

 

 

I don't there is anything like that in the book...? Remember, the next Compact could easily be Tzeentchian! 

 

 

 

Edit: also, Chargen Sheet is now up to date, including Eska's buffed profile - TB6, AV8, 12 Wounds, and Machine and Regen(2) traits should mean she will live at least a few minutes longer! 

 

Generally very happy, now at 5 Khorne advances and no more than 1 from any other God. 1 more advance will put me at Devoted to Khorne Alignment!

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Lysimachus

[Necronaut]

@Mazer Rackham if memory serves, gained malignancies are typically the result of a failed fear test or similar, but also via GM fiat. Unless you meant tto check our corruption thresholds for mutations?

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

9 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

@Mazer Rackham if memory serves, gained malignancies are typically the result of a failed fear test or similar, but also via GM fiat. Unless you meant tto check our corruption thresholds for mutations?

 

Apologies - yes, this.

 

And this, kids, is why you shouldn't run two games from two different systems at once.

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Mazer Rackham

[Xin Ceithan]

2 hours ago, Trokair said:

 

Away from books at the moment, Coruption trigers at intervals of  5 or 10?  Tarh went from 3 to 7 so I think I am good  as brain is saying 10, but as this is a chaos game i wasnet sure if the threshold had been adjusted.

This is correct - 10 is the first threshold for all characters, then it‘s every ten CP for mortals and a bit more rope for Astartes.

 

I‘ve updated Rakash’s sheet, pouring the XP into reaching Psy Rating 3 so it‘s all Rocket Man from here on …

[Necronaut]

Oh dear, Ukalegon has passed 10 corruption. Time for some armpit tentacles! @Mazer Rackham if you could please give me 2x D100 rolls for me to chew on/modify up/down with my (laughably small) infamy bonus since Ukalegon is still Unaligned, I would be most appreciative!

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

4 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said:

...so it‘s all Rocket Man from here on …

 

I will remember you said this. 

 

[Mazer Rackham]

6 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

Oh dear, Ukalegon has passed 10 corruption. Time for some armpit tentacles! @Mazer Rackham if you could please give me 2x D100 rolls for me to chew on/modify up/down with my (laughably small) infamy bonus since Ukalegon is still Unaligned, I would be most appreciative!

 

1st roll: 62

2nd roll: 90 (Tentacle!)

 

[Necronaut]

Alas, we were so close to gaining vampiric addiction. Or really anything else haha. Given my options between a tentacle or straight up limb-loss... Or modifying those rolls into a Tail or Warp Eater, respectively... I guess I'll go with Warp Eater. A question, however (and this is something that has bothered me with BC since its inception): if Ukalegon later becomes aligned would he then gain the bonus of an aligned mutation or does the mutation remain unaligned forever?

 

On the other hand, perhaps a tentacle/limb-loss followed by a scene of him hacking said limb off in revulsion and having it replaced with a (hopefully successfully) acquired cybernetic limb would make for some satisfactory body horror worthy of bonus RP XP and/or Infamy? 

[Machine God]

On 12/26/2025 at 5:04 PM, Mazer Rackham said:

 

 

@Lysimachus

@FabiusV4lcoran

 

1 hour ago, Lysimachus said:

1 hour ago, Lysimachus said:

 

Edit: also, Chargen Sheet is now up to date

 

Generally very happy, now at 5 Khorne advances and no more than 1 from any other God. 1 more advance will put me at Devoted to Khorne Alignment!

 

 

Kraggan's Alignment is at

 

Unaligned 5

Khorne 5

 

So will the +1 Khorne step make him Devoted to Khorne? 

 

 

 

 

[Mazer Rackham]

18 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

Alas, we were so close to gaining vampiric addiction. Or really anything else haha. Given my options between a tentacle or straight up limb-loss... Or modifying those rolls into a Tail or Warp Eater, respectively... I guess I'll go with Warp Eater. A question, however (and this is something that has bothered me with BC since its inception): if Ukalegon later becomes aligned would he then gain the bonus of an aligned mutation or does the mutation remain unaligned forever?

 

My reading is that you get the Unaligned if you're not Aligned at the time of acquisition. If you get it again, and this time you're Aligned, BC Core allows the GM to allow replacement.

 

Where I think this gets problematic is limb loss, since if you cut off your left arm, then your right arm gets rolled up...well...sharpen your teeth.

 

18 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

On the other hand, perhaps a tentacle/limb-loss followed by a scene of him hacking said limb off in revulsion and having it replaced with a (hopefully successfully) acquired cybernetic limb would make for some satisfactory body horror worthy of bonus RP XP and/or Infamy? 

 

Considering your replacement will be a manually powered egg-whisk with cutlery haphazardly welded on, no.

 

17 minutes ago, Machine God said:

Unaligned 5

Khorne 5

 

So will the +1 Khorne step make him Devoted to Khorne? 

 

From my reading of BC Core p75, this would be correct.

[Lysimachus]

Am I reading it wrong? I thought you are allowed to move your Inf Bonus up or down the results? So Vampiric Addiction should be a viable option? (and IMHO, the absolutely correct choice!)

 

Edit: to be clearer, don't you roll, pick your result (if you have 2 rolls to choose from) and then modify up or down the table by your Inf Bonus? (so with InfB 1 Tentacle could be modded down 1 step to Tail or up 1 step to Vamp?)

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Lysimachus

[Necronaut]

3 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Am I reading it wrong? I thought you are allowed to move your Inf Bonus up or down the results? So Vampiric Addiction should be a viable option? (and IMHO, the absolutely correct choice!)

 

You get to modify your mutation roll up/down by your Infamy bonus, which for Ukalegon is currently 1. The Tentacle mutation is granted on a roll of 90-94, whereas Vampiric Addiction would require a roll of 95 plus/minus Infamy bonus.

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

I'm amenable to Vampiric Addiction, but I'm going to be a tool about it, because my GMOCD is saying you didn't bite out someone's throat.

 

However...

 

You did cordon bleu someone's brain. I must think upon this and prepare another Faustian bargain...

 

*Steeples fingers*

[Lysimachus]

49 minutes ago, Machine God said:

 

 

Kraggan's Alignment is at

 

Unaligned 5

Khorne 5

 

So will the +1 Khorne step make him Devoted to Khorne? 

 

 

It depends, I think?

 

Firstly, Unaligned advances don't count towards the total, just the 4 Gods. So don't worry about those.

 

But the check only comes when you hit a multiple of 10 on your Corruption Points.

 

If Kraggan had 5 more Khorne advances than any other God when you hit 10 CP, he is then considered to be Devoted to Khorne until the next Alignment Check (at 20CP) and if so, would use the appropriate XP costs for a Khorne-Aligned character.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Lysimachus

[Necronaut]

@Mazer Rackham as tempted as I am by the prospect of RPing Ukalegon the Mind-Eater (which is admittedly pretty metal and decadent), given my available options I am honestly of half a mind to go by the book and just accept the tentacle and possibly get to work with the old chain cleaver followed by a visit to Incario graft on a new limb. I'll mull this for a bit since we're not in any rush at the moment. I had honestly, and perhaps naively, not anticipated such a brutal pair of rolls for my first mutation. 

 

Edit: on second thought, the Vampiric Addiction, if that is something you would even remotely consider, might make for more interesting RP down the line, not to mention a new avenue for corruption by sensation. Hit me with your best shot.

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

1 hour ago, Necronaut said:

@Mazer Rackham as tempted as I am by the prospect of RPing Ukalegon the Mind-Eater (which is admittedly pretty metal and decadent), given my available options I am honestly of half a mind to go by the book and just accept the tentacle and possibly get to work with the old chain cleaver followed by a visit to Incario graft on a new limb. I'll mull this for a bit since we're not in any rush at the moment. I had honestly, and perhaps naively, not anticipated such a brutal pair of rolls for my first mutation. 

 

Haven't rolled for Tentacle location yet - might end up with your head being a flexible appendage. Whilst highly popular with certain Daemon Princes *cough* Delly *cough* I think we'll be back to Chargen if you lop off your own noggin...

 

1 hour ago, Necronaut said:

Edit: on second thought, the Vampiric Addiction, if that is something you would even remotely consider, might make for more interesting RP down the line, not to mention a new avenue for corruption by sensation.

 

Wish I'd thought of that...

[Necronaut]

I'm pretty sure it's a limb location to roll for, but let me know how that goes so I can properly assess my options. If I'm able to convincingly corrupt Ukalegon towards Slaanesh, this might just be what I need to get that ball rolling. All the same, I'm happy to just play this straight by-the-book. Not particularly asking for special privileges.

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Machine God]

3 hours ago, Necronaut said:

@Mazer Rackham as tempted as I am by the prospect of RPing Ukalegon the Mind-Eater (which is admittedly pretty metal and decadent), given my available options I am honestly of half a mind to go by the book and just accept the tentacle and possibly get to work with the old chain cleaver followed by a visit to Incario graft on a new limb. 

 

 

Somehow Ukalegon game-jumps to Armageddon, whereupon he gets riddled full of holes from Incario's heavy bolter. 

 

 

 

 

[Necronaut]

Oops I meant Iscario, our resident butcher-chirurgeon. But I do love a good cross-over...

Edited December 30, 2025 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

26 minutes ago, Machine God said:

Somehow Ukalegon game-jumps to Armageddon, whereupon he gets riddled full of holes from Incario's heavy bolter. 

 

17 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

Oops I meant Iscario, our resident butcher-chirurgeon. But I do love a good cross-over...

 

It's the same result to be fair - extra holes which don't come fitted as standard...

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Mazer Rackham

[Lysimachus]

Sigh...

 

Bit of a dilemma, I'd appreciate the thoughts of those that know BC better?

 

Hagga is now on 9CP. When he hits 10, he'll do his Alignment Check, but will still be Unaligned by 1 Advance (he's currently got 4 more Khorne than any other God). That's not a problem if we get more XP before we get any more CP - next thing on the list is definitely another Khornate Advance, taking me to 5 more than any other God. OK. Sorted. Fine.

 

However...

 

...if 1 more CP comes in first, I will be stuck as Unaligned and forced to wait to collect a whole other 10CP (to reach 20 and the next Alignment Check) in order to become Devoted to Khorne. I don't really want to wait that long - the higher Tier abilities are expensive if you are Unaligned!

 

A possible fix - one of my most recent XP spends was 500 on Swift Attack (Khornate Tier 2). In theory, I could instead take 2 x Khornate Tier 1 Advances (Pity the Weak and Frenzy, possibly, although I don't really want Frenzy...) which would put me at 5 more Khornate Advances than any other God right now.

 

Then it would just be a case of waiting for that next CP to come in. I'd tick over the 10 mark, and immediately become Devoted. (Would also have the option of rolling a Khornate Gift at that point too)

 

 

 

TL;DR: I'd rather keep Swift Attack, but it's a risk. Should I take Frenzy+Pity the Weak instead, thereby gaining an extra Khornate Advance and putting myself in a better position for becoming Devoted (much) sooner?

 

 

Thanks for any thoughts anyone has! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Lysimachus