Trokair Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 None of them, they all have splinter rifles, aprt from two by the Raider (wich have a shreader and a blaster repectifley, they are out of line of sight from you). Dark Kin 7, the one that shot Mike Zulu, is in the far sout east in the trees. Dark Kin 8 is by the tree in the east, but has run for -20 to hit. Dark Kin 1, the only other one that I think you could draw a line of sigth to is in the north west. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6142455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zulu Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 @Akylas Sorry, just ignore that comment and attack as you see fit. My knowledge of Dark Eldar is rough and I made an incorrect assumption. Akylas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6142464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted November 15 Author Share Posted November 15 1 hour ago, Mike Zulu said: @Akylas Sorry, just ignore that comment and attack as you see fit. My knowledge of Dark Eldar is rough and I made an incorrect assumption. You had just been shot at, and the two weapons are simmilar, and the Dark Eldar shooting at you was in cover and hard to make out, so all seesm like a reasonable in character thing to say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6142483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Wednesday at 08:45 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:45 AM 7 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Reaction: Dodge AG 49 D100: 13, Pass plus 4 DoS, + 2 DoS from Unnat AG. I have been meaning to ask this as this has come up a few times in game (but I don’t think it made a difference before so never quite got round to it). Are Dodges an opposed test? The extra DoS from Unnatural Agility (or any Unnatural characteristic) is only when dealing with opposed tests as far as I can tell fro the Core book. Because without them, the above dodge is only 3DoS (as unlike Black Crusade you don’t get one just for passing), and that would mean only 3 of 4 hits of the FAB dodged. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Wednesday at 10:01 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:01 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Trokair said: Are Dodges an opposed test? The extra DoS from Unnatural Agility (or any Unnatural characteristic) is only when dealing with opposed tests as far as I can tell fro the Core book. Wow, ok - this one caught me out, DH's Unnat does only apply to Opposed Tests, which Dodge is not....interesting, since RT and DW both play it as Pass = +Unnat on any test. I'll have to have a revisit on that to make sure, across in Spectre. Off to fix it! EDIT: Have negated Hits as Applied, so removed hits last to first with the DoS as described as above. Please let me know if this isn't right, and I'll amend as advised. Edited Wednesday at 10:14 AM by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM 8 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Wow, ok - this one caught me out, DH's Unnat does only apply to Opposed Tests, which Dodge is not....interesting, since RT and DW both play it as Pass = +Unnat on any test. I'll have to have a revisit on that to make sure, across in Spectre. No worries, just one of those little differences that trip us all up from time to time. Also sleepy brain was sleepy this morning. I saw 3DoS and 4 hits and came up with one still hitting, but in fact you dodged them all as the initial pass on the test discards one hit, and each DoS thereafter an additional hit, for a total of four. So no toxic crystal shard for you. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted Thursday at 07:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:02 AM If I shoot at the bottom right Dark Eldar is there a penalty? It looks like they're in the bushes. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM 2 hours ago, Akylas said: If I shoot at the bottom right Dark Eldar is there a penalty? It looks like they're in the bushes. He is in the trees, so has some cover, but as he has shoot out at the players he is not actively hiding so no LoS issues or to hit penalties. Hits to the body and legs will benefit from the cover the trees provide (I can’t remember what that was, will check when I get home). Akylas and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM Turn done. Had a minor surgery this morning. Nothing too exciting and home already but the pain and/or meds might make me a bit distracted for a bit. Apologies if I mess up any rules. Mazer Rackham and Trokair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Thursday at 09:32 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:32 PM 15 minutes ago, Akylas said: Turn done. Had a minor surgery this morning. Nothing too exciting and home already but the pain and/or meds might make me a bit distracted for a bit. Apologies if I mess up any rules. No worries, and wishing you a speedy recovery. Hope all is well with you. Mazer Rackham and Akylas 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 09:51 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:51 PM 18 minutes ago, Trokair said: No worries, and wishing you a speedy recovery. Hope all is well with you. Same - don't underestimate meds - take it easy! Akylas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 23 hours ago Author Share Posted 23 hours ago 21 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: WP 45 + 35 (Push) + 10 (Thunking) = 90 D100: 45 PASS, Plus 4 DoS = 7m + 2m (from DoS) = 9m AOE Dam: 2D10+7 (PR) E = 14 Pen 7 Brain being slow, what is the +10 from (not that it affects the end result)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 39 minutes ago, Trokair said: Brain being slow, what is the +10 from (not that it affects the end result)? Half Action: Concentrate. I might have to check if DH is the same as RT and DW. I'm relying on FFG Copypasta. EDIT: Is the Shredder Dam Type Energy or Rending, please GM? Edited 22 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Half Action: Concentrate. I might have to check if DH is the same as RT and DW. I'm relying on FFG Copypasta. Gotcha, reading is tech. Will hit hte books to check if it is the same as the others for future refference. 29 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: EDIT: Is the Shredder Dam Type Energy or Rending, please GM? Shreader is Rending. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago No dodge. Not experienced with how injuries work in Dark Heresy but depending on where he was hit does Kelman get one of the "7"s on the rending critical damage table? Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Akylas said: No dodge. Not experienced with how injuries work in Dark Heresy but depending on where he was hit does Kelman get one of the "7"s on the rending critical damage table? Let’s see Damage 24 – 3(Toughness bonus) – 5 (Armour 7 – Pen 2) = 16 wounds suffered Kelman has 18 wounds, so you are at [16/18] which means you are heavily wounded, but not critical damage yet. Akylas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Trokair said: Let’s see Damage 24 – 3(Toughness bonus) – 5 (Armour 7 – Pen 2) = 16 wounds suffered Kelman has 18 wounds, so you are at [16/18] which means you are heavily wounded, but not critical damage yet. I think I had 1 wound from splinter fire previously although I might have been able to avoid it. I didn't know extra DOS could apply dodge to more than one hit. Either way glad I'm not quite out of wounds yet. Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago if I slow down, and stay in the trees would my camoleoline cloak let me attempt a stealth check? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, Akylas said: I think I had 1 wound from splinter fire previously although I might have been able to avoid it. I didn't know extra DOS could apply dodge to more than one hit. Either way glad I'm not quite out of wounds yet. Correct, forgot that, so [17/18], still good, just. The DoS on dodges to avoid additional hits is only agains FAB/SAB style attacks that are many attacks all togeter. 9 minutes ago, Black Cohort said: if I slow down, and stay in the trees would my camoleoline cloak let me attempt a stealth check? Concealment Test (Ag) is a Half Action If you don’t move at all (this turn) you get +10 The cloak adds an additional +20, additionally if you remain stationary you counts as extreme range for enemy weapons. Edited 21 hours ago by Trokair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385923-a-knocking-afar/page/11/#findComment-6143460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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