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1 hour ago, Krelious said:

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/touch grass

 

People are allowed to like the format of media that works for them. And that is not even considering the logistical issues of getting a highly anticipated novel from Black Library on launch day before it sells out. Quite frankly, the number of audio listeners out there probably vastly outnumber the number of physical book readers in the Black Library sphere specifically for that reason, not to mention folks that listen while they commute, paint, etc. so maybe check the elitism 

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11 hours ago, Krelious said:

I suggest you read both those books, then go READ about blind people, people who have difficulty reading, or maybe READ one of your own posts where you complain on how hard it can be to actually get a BL book at times and some of the 'ideas' you proposed to solve it.  

 

Making the hobby more accesible and available should NEVER be a bad thing.  Giving people more ways to access the hobby they enjoy should NEVER be a bad thing. Having people enjoy warhammer in the harmless way they want is funnily enough NEVER A BAD THING. 

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As a personal preference, I like to have my books in the printed version. Others may for various reasons prefer listening to an audio version instead. Having the freedom of choice is certainly desirable.

 

I do understand that people who enjoy audio versions get annoyed when those are not readily available on the release of the printed version nowadays. However, I do not appreciate seeing Black Library staff called with rude terms because of that. Producing audio versions takes some time (especially if you want them to be done properly), and there may be issues beyond the control of the editorial staff (availability of suitable voice actors etc.). Or should they delay publication in other formats until they also have audio versions ready?

The Scouring is the BIG HOTNESS. It's a flagship release. Not having an audio version ready to go, when the audio market is as big as it is, is pretty lame.

 

Personally, I don't read or listen to books; I prefer to absorb them directly into my consciousness via the third astral plane, but everyone has a favourite format. 

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32 minutes ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

Personally, I don't read or listen to books; I prefer to absorb them directly into my consciousness via the third astral plane, but everyone has a favourite format. 

 

Unfortunately the mighty Changer of Ways has not seen it fit to bless all of us with a Third Eye that would allow us to glimpse into the forbidden mysteries of the Aethyr, and thus to evade the hidden guardians of the Black Library.

 

That said, when it comes to access formats, we can have all three options available.

19 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

Scouring 2: Mechanicum Boogaloo is next weekend for hardback, LE on the 11th

 

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Join me audio fraters in being angry

 

*I asked them on IG, it isn't a typo. The audio version is not coming (yet?), who knows

 

I guess that makes it official that their audio department is having MAJOR issues the last few months. Crazy. 

10 hours ago, Nagashsnee said:

I suggest you read both those books, then go READ about blind people, people who have difficulty reading, or maybe READ one of your own posts where you complain on how hard it can be to actually get a BL book at times and some of the 'ideas' you proposed to solve it.  

 

Making the hobby more accesible and available should NEVER be a bad thing.  Giving people more ways to access the hobby they enjoy should NEVER be a bad thing. Having people enjoy warhammer in the harmless way they want is funnily enough NEVER A BAD THING. 

 

The funny thing is after making the original joke I turned on the tv and I put on an episode of seinfeld and it just so happened to be about George being too lazy to read a book and finds out about books on tape from a blind man on the subway who then says "These things have ruined me for braille"

George then fakes being blind to get the book on tape. 

 

The reason I even know about the book is because I own a copy (I have read it) and if you understand the concept of irony, I edited my post to include the audio book version of how to read a book.

 

Do people have such an underdeveloped sense of humour that they cant connect the dots that someone is complaining about an audiobook not being available that I suggest sarcastically that he doesn't know how to read? Taking offense to things that are meant to be funny is the new thing this day in age and quite frankly its exhausting dealing with people like that. At the end of the day I couldnt give less of a :cuss: if people read books or they want audio books, or pdfs. The point is that I think people should feel safe making jokes without tiptoeing on eggshells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Krelious said:

 

The funny thing is after making the original joke I turned on the tv and I put on an episode of seinfeld and it just so happened to be about George being too lazy to read a book and finds out about books on tape from a blind man on the subway who then says "These things have ruined me for braille"

George then fakes being blind to get the book on tape. 

 

The reason I even know about the book is because I own a copy (I have read it) and if you understand the concept of irony, I edited my post to include the audio book version of how to read a book.

 

Do people have such an underdeveloped sense of humour that they cant connect the dots that someone is complaining about an audiobook not being available that I suggest sarcastically that he doesn't know how to read? Taking offense to things that are meant to be funny is the new thing this day in age and quite frankly its exhausting dealing with people like that. At the end of the day I couldnt give less of a :cuss: if people read books or they want audio books, or pdfs. The point is that I think people should feel safe making jokes without tiptoeing on eggshells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a good episode. That poor woman wanting a mentor. They just don't write sitcoms like that anymore. Throne damn it, now I have to rewatch Seinfeld again in full...

3 hours ago, Krelious said:

Do people have such an underdeveloped sense of humour that they cant connect the dots that someone is complaining about an audiobook not being available that I suggest sarcastically that he doesn't know how to read?

 

Or maybe, if almost universally the reaction to the "humor" is negative, then it wasn't really funny to begin with? Or no one could even tell that it was supposed to be humor in the first place because it wasn't funny and/or marked with some indication like the /s that has become fairly ubiquitous in these situations?

 

Also for the record. Something that's getting equally exhausting (as @Nagashsnee is going through on the other thread) is people saying something edgy, or what they think is humorous, and then acting offended when nobody else does "oh gee guys no one can take a joke, you're all so soft or don't have a sense of humor"

 

Just like people are entitled to make a joke because they think it's funny, others are equally entitled to think it's not

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5 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

Or maybe, if almost universally the reaction to the "humor" is negative, then it wasn't really funny to begin with? Or no one could even tell that it was supposed to be humor in the first place because it wasn't funny and/or marked with some indication like the /s that has become fairly ubiquitous in these situations?

 

Also for the record. Something that's getting equally exhausting (as @Nagashsnee is going through on the other thread) is people saying something edgy, or what they think is humorous, and then acting offended when nobody else does "oh gee guys no one can take a joke, you're all so soft or don't have a sense of humor"

 

Just like people are entitled to make a joke because they think it's funny, others are equally entitled to think it's not

 

A militant atheist, the physical avatar of the machine God and a man who has personally met the chaos

gods walk into a bar. The bartender says "What will it be your imperial majesty?"

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5 hours ago, Krelious said:

 

The funny thing is after making the original joke I turned on the tv and I put on an episode of seinfeld and it just so happened to be about George being too lazy to read a book and finds out about books on tape from a blind man on the subway who then says "These things have ruined me for braille"

George then fakes being blind to get the book on tape. 

 

The reason I even know about the book is because I own a copy (I have read it) and if you understand the concept of irony, I edited my post to include the audio book version of how to read a book.

 

Do people have such an underdeveloped sense of humour that they cant connect the dots that someone is complaining about an audiobook not being available that I suggest sarcastically that he doesn't know how to read? Taking offense to things that are meant to be funny is the new thing this day in age and quite frankly its exhausting dealing with people like that. At the end of the day I couldnt give less of a :cuss: if people read books or they want audio books, or pdfs. The point is that I think people should feel safe making jokes without tiptoeing on eggshells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the fact you linked GR on here was more of an offense :)

It's the internet. If you see something you don't like, you can turn 360 degrees and walk away (or use the RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE button if you're truly shocked). In this age of barely-evolved apes and the thunder of their typewriters, I would gently suggest that now, more than ever, they can't all be zingers. Let go of your jimmies. Seek unrustlement.

 

NOW, HOW 'BOUT THEM BOOKS, THEN? CORRR, THEY'VE EVEN GOT SOME ON TAPE, HAVE THEY? WHAT A WORLD!

5 minutes ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

It's the internet. If you see something you don't like, you can turn 360 degrees and walk away (or use the RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE button if you're truly shocked). In this age of barely-evolved apes and the thunder of their typewriters, I would gently suggest that now, more than ever, they can't all be zingers. Let go of your jimmies. Seek unrustlement.

 

NOW, HOW 'BOUT THEM BOOKS, THEN? CORRR, THEY'VE EVEN GOT SOME ON TAPE, HAVE THEY? WHAT A WORLD!

 

That's why the audio delay, they ran out of cassettes for ol' Jon Keeb

2 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

That's why the audio delay, they ran out of cassettes for ol' Jon Keeb

 

Cassettes? That's fancy. We usually had to go to the inn on the second Saturday of the month to see Thomas, the wandering bard, who would come to our village and regale us with tales of the world beyond our humble borders.

3 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said:

 

Cassettes? That's fancy. We usually had to go to the inn on the second Saturday of the month to see Thomas, the wandering bard, who would come to our village and regale us with tales of the world beyond our humble borders.

 

That's what Warhammer Community is now

 

10 minutes ago, Adeptekon said:

I try to stick to audio drama, there's just not many thespians that can convince me when they go into character, it takes a special person to do that.

 

That's fair, I just wish they'd hire the folks that did the Thrawn audiobook, the sound mixing in that is excellent. GW audio dramas always have the sound effects up a little high in comparison to the voice actors for my tastes

 

59 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

That's what Warhammer Community is now

 

 

That's fair, I just wish they'd hire the folks that did the Thrawn audiobook, the sound mixing in that is excellent. GW audio dramas always have the sound effects up a little high in comparison to the voice actors for my tastes

 

Don't get me wrong, I prefer audiobooks these days in general. In fact I'll take some fanfict and run it through a text to speech synth and select a British female then pretend it's speaking to me in high gothic.

RIP Black Library audio dramas, on that point. They were SO GOOD when they did Warhammer Horror and Crime! And they'd started doing multi-disc box sets, even had Brian Blessed as Gotrek! We finally had audio dramas with room to breathe instead of rushing to through the plot in 70 minutes.

 

Like, they basically peaked there just to unceremoniously cancel everything already announced and being written. Got us a Cypher short novel that was CLEARLY rejigged for a print release when it was clearly envisioned with voice acting and sound effects in mind.

 

Also on that note, where the hell is my Malus Darkblade 3-5 and his End Times spinoff, huh, BL?! Don't you dare pull another 18 months between installments.

 

3 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

That's fair, I just wish they'd hire the folks that did the Thrawn audiobook, the sound mixing in that is excellent. GW audio dramas always have the sound effects up a little high in comparison to the voice actors for my tastes

 

 

Man, Marc Thompson is the guy to call for Star Wars narrations. Between him, Jonathan Davis and January LaVoy, you got the classic Star Wars cast covered wonderfully. It's also a real treat how much effort they put into the SFX, from lightsaber humming over blaster frizzing and everything from impacts over atmospheric sounds or hyperspace zooming. They have full access to the movie sounds, and they put them to use every time they can. And as you say, the mixing is catering much better to the audio listener. Black Library had some audio dramas over the years that were real chores to listen to because of how loud everything was but the narration. And speaking of narration, I despise that BL often went for the minimum/no narration route in the end phase of audio dramas. Made things harder to follow than needed, and it didn't help when it caused dead air filled with nothing but sound effects.

 

Also, I highly recommend the audio drama adaptation of Doctor Aphra's parts from the 2015 Darth Vader comics, or Dooku: Jedi Lost. And those High Republic audio dramas... Yeah, you need to read the High Republic up to that point to really appreciate everything going on, but The Battle of Jedha from Phase II? Brilliant. 

 

Speaking of Goodreads, oopsie, I didn't update anything this year yet, either, did I... Guess I'll have to do it all over the holidays again...

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4 hours ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

It's the internet. If you see something you don't like, you can turn 360 degrees and walk away (or use the RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE button if you're truly shocked). In this age of barely-evolved apes and the thunder of their typewriters, I would gently suggest that now, more than ever, they can't all be zingers. Let go of your jimmies. Seek unrustlement.

 

NOW, HOW 'BOUT THEM BOOKS, THEN? CORRR, THEY'VE EVEN GOT SOME ON TAPE, HAVE THEY? WHAT A WORLD!

 

The old let me say whatever i want and if you dont like it you dont get to say whatever you want. I shall pass. 

 

Counter point, we all get to say what we want (and if the mods think that is against the forum rules they will act accordingly), and we all live with the results. You know, like adults having a conversation. 

 

 

On the subject of Star Wars, actors and sounds, I know it's a bit long in the tooth now, but Hamill's performance through the Wing Commander series is just fantastic. You don't even need to squint to see Luke Skywalker post-Rebellion, and it's clear the absolutely stacked cast all elevate each other (and the less well-known names). Seeing the Squadron 42 trailer recently gave me a very similar feeling (and considering who's behind it, no mistake there). 

 

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You know, like adults having a conversation. 

 

I do but keep the peace: put up thy sword,

Or manage it to part these men with me.

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PEACE? I HATE THE WORD, AS I HATE HELL, ALL EDITS, AND THEE
5 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

I remember wanting my mom to buy me the Lord of the Rings on tape.

One of my parents friends from the UK gave me as a present, the BBC radio drama for lord of the rings, 13 tapes. As a kid i had a set time for lights out, but i could still play the tapes, ostensibly to help fall asleep too (LMAO).  I still have them, and they remain the version of lotr i most treasure.  Audio is a fantastic medium especially for ages and people who may not have the time/ability to read. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Nagashsnee said:

 Audio is a fantastic medium especially for ages and people who may not have the time/ability to read. 

 

This reminds me that when I was a child, and could not read yet, my father used to produce homemade "audio books" by reading out children's books on a cassette. We could then listen to those at times when he was not around, as we knew how to operate a cassette tape recorder.

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