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There's just something special about the Skaven, isn't there? They are, bar none, my favourite 'comedy' antagonists (and protagonists) across just about any setting. They're just so generally awful at everything that it's really hard to actually hate them. But they still have this air of menace to them (from the Great Horned Rat mostly, I think): yes, they're individually cowardly and stupid and wretched, and yeah, they do terrible things, but when they win - and they have the numbers and the magic and the madness to win - their victory looks like nothing else. The Great Horned Rat is the Dark King without the sanitisation. He's Ruin in every sense of the word. He's not funny. And while everyone else is squabbling about the Great Game or the Realms or what-have-you, the Horned Rat gains ground on everyone. You gotta root for the underdog.

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40 minutes ago, wecanhaveallthree said:

There's just something special about the Skaven, isn't there? They are, bar none, my favourite 'comedy' antagonists (and protagonists) across just about any setting. They're just so generally awful at everything that it's really hard to actually hate them. But they still have this air of menace to them (from the Great Horned Rat mostly, I think): yes, they're individually cowardly and stupid and wretched, and yeah, they do terrible things, but when they win - and they have the numbers and the magic and the madness to win - their victory looks like nothing else. The Great Horned Rat is the Dark King without the sanitisation. He's Ruin in every sense of the word. He's not funny. And while everyone else is squabbling about the Great Game or the Realms or what-have-you, the Horned Rat gains ground on everyone. You gotta root for the underdog.

 

Adrian Tchaicobsky who writes for BL even had them appear as baddies in a non BL book!

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Adrian Tchaicobsky

 

I keep telling myself I'll read some more of his work, but I've only ever read one story. A few years back I, determined, walked into the local library and said: I've heard good things about Adrian Can'tprouncehisnamesky. Please recommend a book for me. The nice lady suggested Dogs of War to flip through and see if it was something I'd like. It was a lovely day, so I sat down briefly - and, uh, read the whole thing, which made me cry. I've somehow managed to unconsciously avoid him ever since, probably because my masculinity is too fragile or something.

On 11/4/2026 at 10:22 AM, wecanhaveallthree said:

There's just something special about the Skaven, isn't there? They are, bar none, my favourite 'comedy' antagonists (and protagonists) across just about any setting. They're just so generally awful at everything that it's really hard to actually hate them. But they still have this air of menace to them (from the Great Horned Rat mostly, I think): yes, they're individually cowardly and stupid and wretched, and yeah, they do terrible things, but when they win - and they have the numbers and the magic and the madness to win - their victory looks like nothing else. The Great Horned Rat is the Dark King without the sanitisation. He's Ruin in every sense of the word. He's not funny. And while everyone else is squabbling about the Great Game or the Realms or what-have-you, the Horned Rat gains ground on everyone. You gotta root for the underdog.

The concept is a time honored sci-fi trope. The Groundlings from Thundarr were my first experience with rat folk. Which is why we need them in 40k.

5 hours ago, Griefbringer said:

Adeptekon, those look like old Skave rat ogres, intended to go on 40 mm x 40 mm square bases.

 

http://www.solegends.com/citcat1991b/cat1991bp223skaven-00.htm

Thank you! I lost track of that site ages ago!

 

Also I lied my first exposure to talking rat folk was the Rats of NIMH.

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