Yarrick Returns

[DeadFingers]

1 hour ago, HeadlessCross said:

I actually agree. I'd rather he stayed dead and just received the model vs "oh yeah he's not dead" and received a model. 

 

17 minutes ago, Gamiel said:

I'm probably in the minority here but I would have preferred him to stay dead.

Once more for the folks in the back.

 

YARRICK NEVER DIED TO BEGIN WITH

[SvenIronhand]

2 hours ago, DeadFingers said:

It was never written down, the last time we heard about him he was off world, chasing Ghaz, and then his rules weren't in one Guard Codex and the community started going "did GW just kill Yarrick?" "Is Yarrick dead?".

This is incorrect; there was an entire page in the 9th Edition codex fluff about it.

[DeadFingers]

11 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said:

This is incorrect; there was an entire page in the 9th Edition codex fluff about it.

You mean this page?

 

 

The page from the Codex released AFTER the "Yarrick is dead" nonsense gained its traction? The page present in the article I link to on the post you quoted? The one where they have this picture, referencing the "theory" that it's Angron that killed him and where you can see the infamous skull and its service studs?

 

 

 

It's almost like I know about that page in that Codex and how it came after the nonsense gained popularity and I mention both of those things in my post!

Edited 9 hours ago by DeadFingers

[SillyDreadnought]

1 minute ago, DeadFingers said:

 where you can see the infamous skull and its service studs?

You might need to point out where these service studs are because I see a skull with the Bale Eye and a Comissariat Cap on, but no service studs, or other skulls.

[DeadFingers]

4 minutes ago, SillyDreadnought said:

You might need to point out where these service studs are because I see a skull with the Bale Eye and a Comissariat Cap on, but no service studs, or other skulls.

What? A cap? Where are you even seeing a cap on this thing?

 

[Plaguecaster]

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated"

Happy to see Yarrick back can't wait to be able to get him to field alongside my krieg force just hope he can join most infantry squads 

[Mogger351]

32 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

 

Once more for the folks in the back.

 

YARRICK NEVER DIED TO BEGIN WITH

 

I hate to break it to you, here's is in whatever state GW write him into. He was missing, had no mini, no rules and as you note a section in the book stipulating he was missing/dead.

 

The guardsmen in the setting thought he was dead. His opponents thought he was dead. Functionally in setting he was dead.

 

Him randomly being wheeled out with a "Oh here's a geriatric to save the day. Again. A 4th time." To then lap up the sheer lack of originality and claim from the rafters about how he "was never dead" is frankly bizarre.

 

They could do so much better just killing him off, formally, and make the setting far richer with new developments.

[Cactus]

Hey boss, I fink Old Man Yarrick iz gettin weaka. 'iz 'at is smaller evry time and 'e 'azn't 'ad dat bosspole in years!

[SvenIronhand]

28 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

You mean this page?

 

 

The page from the Codex released AFTER the "Yarrick is dead" nonsense gained its traction? The page present in the article I link to on the post you quoted? The one where they have this picture, referencing the "theory" that it's Angron that killed him and where you can see the infamous skull and its service studs?

 

 

 

It's almost like I know about that page in that Codex and how it came after the nonsense gained popularity and I mention both of those things in my post!

Respectfully, I think you have the order of events entirely out of wack. The page you showed was the starting gun. I have no particular need to have Yarrick be dead; I prefer him alive. That said, we should base our discussion in the facts.

Edited 9 hours ago by SvenIronhand

[ZeroWolf]

7 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

 

I hate to break it to you, here's is in whatever state GW write him into. He was missing, had no mini, no rules and as you note a section in the book stipulating he was missing/dead.

 

The guardsmen in the setting thought he was dead. His opponents thought he was dead. Functionally in setting he was dead.

 

Him randomly being wheeled out with a "Oh here's a geriatric to save the day. Again. A 4th time." To then lap up the sheer lack of originality and claim from the rafters about how he "was never dead" is frankly bizarre.

 

They could do so much better just killing him off, formally, and make the setting far richer with new developments.

I think we need to seperate lore and behind the scenes. In lore, yeah, its easy to write it so that characters thought he was dead (if that lore is ever mentioned again now or isn't reduced to a one sentence clean up). GW themselves never had plans to kill him off. They simply wanted to get rid of the resin model while the new one was being produced. They decided to have fun with it (a side of GW we do see from time to time, as seen in last years ultramarine videos). This way, it gave fans something to chew over while they already got things ready for Yarricks return. They were totally playing on what our reaction would be to Yarrick disappearing from the codex, his model too.

 

Come to think of it, Yarrick was probably the only resin character they could do this with.

[SillyDreadnought]

38 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

What? A cap? Where are you even seeing a cap on this thing?

 

Oh I thought you meant the image from the codex spread, I never saw that skull before.

[01RTB01]

31 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

 

I hate to break it to you, here's is in whatever state GW write him into. He was missing, had no mini, no rules and as you note a section in the book stipulating he was missing/dead.

 

The guardsmen in the setting thought he was dead. His opponents thought he was dead. Functionally in setting he was dead.

 

Him randomly being wheeled out with a "Oh here's a geriatric to save the day. Again. A 4th time." To then lap up the sheer lack of originality and claim from the rafters about how he "was never dead" is frankly bizarre.

 

They could do so much better just killing him off, formally, and make the setting far richer with new developments.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yUA8498e/warhammer-community-investigates-could-commissar-yarrick-actually-be-dead/

 

Never confirmed dead. 

[ZeroWolf]

37 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said:

Respectfully, I think you have the order of events entirely out of wack. The page you showed was the starting gun. I have no particular need to have Yarrick be dead; I prefer him alive. That said, we should base our discussion in the facts.

Actually, the starting point was the Angron leak of '22 as that was what prompted the warcom article which predates the imperial guard codex by two months.

[Lay]

So, people theorized Yarrick died, GW had fun with the idea and now they're surprised he's back. What's the big deal?

[Spagunk]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Him randomly being wheeled out with a "Oh here's a geriatric to save the day. Again. A 4th time." 

But enough about Dante :p

[SvenIronhand]

47 minutes ago, Lay said:

So, people theorized Yarrick died, GW had fun with the idea and now they're surprised he's back. What's the big deal?

Somebody is wrong on the internet™️ and this awful breach of the social contract must be punished with the utmost zeal.

[phandaal]

8 hours ago, Wolf Guard Dan said:

Yarrick can’t die because collectively the Orks think he’s immortal. Isn’t that the way ork magic works still? “Collective interpretation of reality”

 

No, that is just the youtuber version of "lore." Orks can cause minor changes, like the entire species believing red things go faster, which causes vehicles to move just a little bit quicker than they should. Or thinking blue makes them lucky, or purple makes them hard to see, or yellow makes their weapons deadlier. They cannot cause a human to become immortal just because they think it.

 

7 hours ago, DeadFingers said:

And thank every god they stopped the acknowledgement of the whole "Yarrick is dead" nonsense as just rumours and that's over now. I'd have been genuinely angry if they went and actually killed him. Not because I particularly care about Yarrick's continued existence, but because the level of idiocy and circlejerking on display from the community has been insufferable these last couple years, and GW validating it would've given me even more grey hairs.

 

I too am glad he is alive in the canon. Not because I am a hipster who validates himself by looking down on people who believed GW when they dedicated an entire page of the Guard Codex to his memorial, with a drawing of a one-handed skeleton with an augmetic eye, and removed his rules, but because I like Yarrick. I appreciate this particular flip-flop from GW because it ended up somewhere I like.

 

Yarrick is cool, and I like his character, so it is neat to see him continuing on in the rules and model range.

[sitnam]

10 hours ago, Robbienw said:

Steel Legion should get their own new kit.  They are visually distinct from the Krieg.

 

I don't disagree with you, I just don't think it's likely we get a a third new plastic regiment before a Catachan refresh, particularly one that's shares so much visually with the DKoK.

 

In a perfect world all the regiments of old would get their due. 

[Wolf Guard Dan]

56 minutes ago, phandaal said:

 

No, that is just the youtuber version of "lore." Orks can cause minor changes, like the entire species believing red things go faster, which causes vehicles to move just a little bit quicker than they should. Or thinking blue makes them lucky, or purple makes them hard to see, or yellow makes their weapons deadlier. They cannot cause a human to become immortal just because they think it.

 

Red goes fasta. I’ve never seen a purple ork. Bad Moonz got the most dakka. It’s not impossible to suggest that a man who spends his time fighting the ork race could get a longevity boost from the psychic fugue from being on the battle field vs the orks. 
 

I’m just having a bit of fun with it now. Thank you for the reply. I do think giving Yarrick a longevity boost could be within their ability if orks can also make red vehicles go faster. Gotta believe in a little whimsy now and then. But as it’s not stated in the fluff I’m forced to believe the imperial line of rejuvenate treatments and servo enhanced calipers. It’s really hatred of orks that keeps him going. 

[Antarius]

The mini is very nice, I think I might even get it. The Againmaggedon-again-again is utter nonsense though, no matter how the chips fall on the "did GW submit an affidavit that Yarrick was totally dead 4 realz"-discussion.
I know it's a tired old refrain but going all in on storyline and then having the storyline be endless reruns is beyond silly at this point.

The good news (and maybe this is the real genius of the strategy?) is that it gives those of us who don't care for the "new" stories models we can use with the old setting (and/or older editions, if one is so inclined).

[Alby the Slayer]

I never thought it was already dead. They never said it.

But I said it would be cool to see him die in this war or another, like a true hero of the Imperium, give us the rules to play him anyways. What's the problem?

 

Also it would be cool to have something like the third war on armaggeddon (2000) where we decided who won the war by sending our battle reports to GW. 

I know, just wishful thinking...

[Mogger351]

6 hours ago, Lay said:

So, people theorized Yarrick died, GW had fun with the idea and now they're surprised he's back. What's the big deal?

On one hand there's some people on camp "ner-ner told you so" that he was never actually dead. On the flip side some people hoped for actual progression of the story and interesting arcs based on said death.