Yarrick Returns

[sitnam]

14 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

And that is why the United States of America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are all identical in society, government, and economy to the United Kingdom. 

 

Crazy strawman to pull here, seeing as we are talking about militaries not economies. 

 

I don't know how long it's been around,  but the idea that other worlds emulate Cadian pattern equipment isn't a new idea. 

[Antarius]

One thing is for certain. If I ever get around to painting my Krieg kill team, I'll paint them as Steel Legion. The colour scheme tickles my fancy a lot more and I'm a bit bored with Krieg (they're cool, I'm just bored with them personally, I hasten to add).

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Ok you've sold me on tiny legend's Blitz Legion. Good job GW...

[Vassakov]

1 hour ago, EmprahsStrongestGuardsman said:

Ok you've sold me on tiny legend's Blitz Legion. Good job GW...

 

I'd actually say that alternative and particularly OOP Guard Regiments are pretty much the best example of 3D prints/proxies for GW games, along with custom SM Chapter bits. Like, as long as you're not going to a GW run event I don't think people will care and for entirely understandable and sensible business reasons (I'm sorry, this is just reality) GW are not going to produce 6+ functionally identical plastic guard infantry boxes with minor variations in the uniform. 

[alfred_the_great]

8 hours ago, Wispy said:

It seems like to be part of the same part of the brains for folks who are very particular about accuracy in historical reenactments. Subtle variations of kit that diehards really, really care about but is a non-issue for most folks as long as the vibe is right.

 

Historical reenactment is the time and place for that sort of attention to detail, which is fair. 

this mindset amuses me. I’m in the military, and in our unit, as long as the top layer is broadly correct, you can wear what you want underneath. 
 

the rivet counters would have a fit. 

[Marshal Rohr]

8 hours ago, sitnam said:

 

Crazy strawman to pull here, seeing as we are talking about militaries not economies. 

 

I don't know how long it's been around,  but the idea that other worlds emulate Cadian pattern equipment isn't a new idea. 

Oh, I’m so sorry, in that case there’s obviously no differences in equipment, organization, or doctrine between the UK and her former colonies! That certainly doesn’t make the point even better!

 

 

Stop defending these stupid writers writing stupid lore that just hand waves away the flavor this game used to have. 

Edited March 21 by Marshal Rohr

[Jukkiz]

8 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Oh, I’m so sorry, in that case there’s obviously no differences in equipment, organization, or doctrine between the UK and her former colonies! That certainly doesn’t make the point even better!

 

 

Stop defending these stupid writers writing stupid lore that just hand waves away the flavor this game used to have. 

Didn´t they say that they don´t even have "lore department" anymore? 

[Vassakov]

6 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Stop defending these stupid writers writing stupid lore that just hand waves away the flavor this game used to have. 

 

The "lore" has always and forever been subservient to selling model soldiers.

 

I'm really, really, really sorry that this is some kind of surprise (or more likely being driven by bad faith ragebaiters on the internet) but that's how it's always been. Not sure how so many people are upset by this.

[01RTB01]

17 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

Didn´t they say that they don´t even have "lore department" anymore? 

 

Last I knew Wade Pryce was head of the narrative for 40k?

[Crimson Longinus]

On 3/20/2026 at 6:44 PM, SteveAntilles said:

Death Korps vs Steel Legion:

 

These look about as much like each other than the modern plastic Cadians look like the old metal Cadians. There are obviously some differences, but the overall aesthetic is very similar.

 

And whilst I would like GW to make another guard regiment, it would be crazy to make two that are so similar when there are ones with much more distinct looks. 

 

 

Edited March 21 by Crimson Longinus

[darkhorse0607]

9 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

Last I knew Wade Pryce was head of the narrative for 40k?

ADB is head of narrative for GW as a whole as well, which explains why 11th is back to Armaggedon

 

28 minutes ago, Vassakov said:

Not sure how so many people are upset by this.

 

Is it a shock that people care about the lore? Or their favorite factions? Would it also be a shock, if for example people were upset if they got rid of Dante in the same fashion and replaced him with a new Karlean model?

[LSM]

19 hours ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

Given the pricing on MTO runs, that information is anything but interesting. Unless you consider "small number of sales indicative of gamers not willing to splash out large amounts of cash during a cost of living crisis on decades old sculpts" interesting, rather than blatantly obvious.

 

There was already a MTO of Steel Legion minis three years ago. At the time, the thing I remember most was people being aghast at the price.

 

(Also; while checking on the date, I couldn't help but chuckle at the WarCom wording. "Commissar Yarrick may have gone to join the Emperor's side, but the loyal Guardsmen of Armageddon are still alive and kicking." Oh how the turntables... tur-the tables turn.)

 

[Vassakov]

13 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

Would it also be a shock, if for example people were upset if they got rid of Dante in the same fashion and replaced him with a new Karlean model?

 

Given that Dante has been trying to die for a while... I think that would probably go down fine. Especially if it was part of some kind of campaign book, like say a return to Armageddon where the Blood Angels are involved? Heck, you might just have predicted the 11th Ed Blood Angels release!

 

However, Steel Legion are probably more analogous to one of the Codex Compliant Chapters - and they have chopped, changed and replaced those Chapter Masters. Shrike literally got replaced last year by someone we've never heard of before.

 

This is standard operating procedure for Games Workshop and has been for the last 35 years at least.

Edited March 21 by Vassakov

[Mogger351]

22 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

ADB is head of narrative for GW as a whole as well, which explains why 11th is back to Armaggedon

 

 

Is it a shock that people care about the lore? Or their favorite factions? Would it also be a shock, if for example people were upset if they got rid of Dante in the same fashion and replaced him with a new Karlean model?

I'm not really sure what the problem with the lore is really? The steel.lehion have been ground into practical extinction. I'm not sure what about this is an aberration of fluff?

 

But yes, honestly having some characters killed off and the story move a little is fun. Hence why "oh look, it's orks again, better drag yarrick out the back of the wardrobe" is so boring.

[darkhorse0607]

2 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

I'm not really sure what the problem with the lore is really? The steel.lehion have been ground into practical extinction. I'm not sure what about this is an aberration of fluff?

 

But yes, honestly having some characters killed off and the story move a little is fun. Hence why "oh look, it's orks again, better drag yarrick out the back of the wardrobe" is so boring.

 

 

More ground down than the Cadians who's homeworld got blown up but still has the numbers to function across the galaxy, including on Armageddon?

 

I dunno, the problem for the second bit is that they arent really doing anything to stand up new characters. For example, they get rid of Creed, say "Heres his daughter, she's great" and then does nothing with her. Its easier (which is apparently their preferred route), to pull out characters that have had work done on them rather than putting any effort into new ones

 

 

[Vassakov]

15 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

More ground down than the Cadians who's homeworld got blown up but still has the numbers to function across the galaxy, including on Armageddon?

Yes. Because they are selling Cadians and Death Korps, and the lore is written to reflect this.

[TheVoidDragon]

19 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I’m fairly good with military history, and gotta say, small differences between coat length, and big over the sleeve gloves vs little gloves just isn’t that big of a deal imho.

 

Kasrkin are cadians but are visually extremely different, so if those massive differences can be from the same homeworld I think it’s safe to say that krieg and SL are very close.

 

I feel like this is just an overly reductive look at them that involves removing any any all nuance to simply go "They both have some sort of coat, and some sort of mask, therefore the same", and that's that. They are very different with the only real similarities being the 2 most basic elements at a superficial level.

[Vassakov]

1 minute ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Hey genius, you know what sells more model soldiers? Releasing new model soldiers. If warlord can make money selling Italian colonial troops in hard plastic, GW would rake in cash making steel legion. 

 

Really? Cause up until this week, I'd not really heard anyone calling for specifically Steel Legion. But I'm sure your market research is significantly better than Games Workshops.

 

As for releasing more model soldiers... you've seen GW's releases recently, right? They're hardly not releasing new and updated stuff literally every single week, if you haven't noticed. But apparently not redoing a single Guard regiment is a slap in the face, even though they do in fact have an in production gas mask and great coat regiment which are perfectly serviceable.

Or people could use those 3D printers they are forever banging on about....

[01RTB01]

Can we lock this as people are just being overly catty and have moved well beyond the topic of Yarrick.

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

1 hour ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

 

More ground down than the Cadians who's homeworld got blown up but still has the numbers to function across the galaxy, including on Armageddon?

 

I dunno, the problem for the second bit is that they arent really doing anything to stand up new characters. For example, they get rid of Creed, say "Heres his daughter, she's great" and then does nothing with her. Its easier (which is apparently their preferred route), to pull out characters that have had work done on them rather than putting any effort into new ones

 

 

Stole this:

If you trust the numbers in the novels (you shouldn't, by the way) barely a billion guardsmen were on Cadia when it fell. Nine hundred and fifty million, to be exact - of which only one in a thousand made it off world.

If the Cadians have been pumping out regiments upon regiments the way they're described, with birthrate and recruitment rate being the same, everyone lost on Cadia would've been a rounding error compared to everyone the planet shipped out over its lifetime. So based on the numbers (which you should take with a giant grain of salt) technically it makes sense that Cadians are still everywhere despite their planet exploding.

Also lots of planets train and equip their guard regiments to Cadian standards because they're the archetypal guardsmen. Not everyone wearing Cadian style armor will be Cadians, the same way not every space marine is an Ultramarine.
the SL dont have nearly as much a galactic footprint in the galaxy as Cadians which were noted as the largest exporter of guard while armageddon was a major manufacturing world before the wars.

There was a little over 50 years between the 2nd and 3rd wars the last of which was noted as not really ending, plus Angron showing up again in m42.
So that doesn't leave a lot of time to rebuild the many hive cites and manufactorums that were lost.

It sucks SL fans are not getting their models but this isn't the most egregious lore GW has put out. Would have been nice for an officer drop or upgrade pack at least though..

[phandaal]

37 minutes ago, Vassakov said:

Or people could use those 3D printers they are forever banging on about....

 

I might do this. Not even really a Guard player but I have so many printable tanks and walkers that would be perfect for a mechanized army, plus those Blitz Legion from Tiny Legend are way too cool. Just need to figure out how to add another ~36 hours to each day to keep up with all of my different armies. 

[Lathe Biosas]

I'm hoping the answer is some internet rage-inducing horror, like he's John Grammaticus returned and portraying Yarrick.

 

Think of the YouTube anger that would come from that!

[Mana]

GW clearly hasn't planned to release plastic Steel Legion yet, no, I don't consider the Steel Legion squated in any way. Yes I like the Yarrick miniature, I think It looks great and I specially like they did a very similar pose to the last iteration, 10/10. I prefer GW remaking old miniatures rather than making new lackluster miniatures like Leontus and Ursula Creed (personal subjective opinion).

 

I believe eventually GW will release plastic Steel Legion, why? simple, the GW plastic selling machine has to keep rolling, but Steel Legion are " similar" to DKOK and those "just got released", catachans will come after, the maybe vostroyans, valhallans, Steel Legion, etc.

 

 

10 hours ago, Antarius said:

One thing is for certain. If I ever get around to painting my Krieg kill team, I'll paint them as Steel Legion. The colour scheme tickles my fancy a lot more and I'm a bit bored with Krieg (they're cool, I'm just bored with them personally, I hasten to add).

 

If I ever get DKOK I will paint them in Steel Legions colors too, I like the paint scheme honestly.

[bloodhound23]

2 hours ago, Vassakov said:

Yes. Because they are selling Cadians and Death Korps, and the lore is written to reflect this.

The lore is worth something in the form of IP. They have *some* interest in not doing this^ willy nilly. 

[Joe]

Took another rewatch of the trailer now that it's available in 4K, and was pleasantly surprised to see some Engineers dotted in amongst the Krieg troops. M2 have definitely been belting out more and more bangers in the last year or so.