New Warhammer 40,000 Edition announced!

[mel_danes]

Paperback vs Hardback would be my guess. Didn't they say the Ork codex was paperback?

 

[Mogger351]

1 minute ago, mel_danes said:

Paperback vs Hardback would be my guess. Didn't they say the Ork codex was paperback?

 

Paperback in a slip case and a smaller page format.

 

They also confirmed Imperial Agents would receive "Continued support and more was coming" and they stated once again in what they consider to be a watertight end-of-discussion statement:

 

All new plastic custodes will be fully supported in 11th edition.

[irlLordy]

I felt both the Imperial Agents and to a lesser extent the Custodes answers were a bit wishy-washy to be honest.

 

For Custodes, I wish they'd confirmed that the HH models rules would be in the codex proper  and not via Imperial Armour supplement. Sure, we can assume they will be, given Telemon specific strats, but if they're not in the Codex, then the long term future of them in 40k remains unclear, they could be removed at start of 12th edition.

 

For Agents, they said that Agents weren't going away and remain playable. Which means what exactly? Status quo, which is already a bad place? They didn't commit to proper balance updates for the faction or explain why they were the only faction not to get new detachments. Half the time talking about Agents was a plug for the Hive book. Very disapointing answer I felt, bare minimum.

[ThaneOfTas]

34 minutes ago, irlLordy said:

but if they're not in the Codex, then the long term future of them in 40k remains unclear, they could be removed at start of 12th edition.

I mean, to be fair them being in the codex wont necessarily save them either, look at Cataphractii and Tartaros terminators (later amalgamated into Relic Terminators) and Contemptor Dreads.

[Craig]

2 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said:

While I appreciate any price drop, what have they reduced (quality-wise) to allow for it?  We know it won’t be from a drop in their profit margin…

The new codexes are smaller and in paperback. This means they are less expensive for GW to produce, ship and store. They did say there would be hardback collectors editions too though which we can assume come with a higher price tag.

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, ThaneOfTas said:

I mean, to be fair them being in the codex wont necessarily save them either, look at Cataphractii and Tartaros terminators (later amalgamated into Relic Terminators) and Contemptor Dreads.

In other pockets of the internet there's a lot of "but they said they're fine for 11th!" Going on which feels like a lot of assumption and coping based off a half answer to me

[Lathe Biosas]

They can get rid of any models at any time. Just because they are in a codex doesn't mean they will survive to the next edition.

 

Remember the Hunter? The anti-air Primaris tank. *Poof*

 

On the other hand, inane internet chatter told me that the Knight Lancer (and all its tallboy Knight buddies) would be removed from the legal play and sent to Legends at the start of 8th (and then 9th, 10th, and now 11th) edition... they still arent in the Imperial Knights codex, and people are still playing with them.

 

So just play with the models that you want to play with while you can.

 

Me? I love the new Custodes and am buying more of them to use.

Edited Saturday at 11:47 AM by Lathe Biosas

[Marshal Reinhard]

On 6/25/2026 at 12:59 AM, Nephaston said:

This is a "Druid" from the Emperors Spears, a chapter that basically combines techmarines, apothecaries, librarians, and chaplains into one role.

I get that this is the hobby where you're free to do this. Your guys your lore. But really, that's a bit much. And I know its an official chapter.

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, Lathe Biosas said:

They can get rid of any models at any time. Just because they are in a codex doesn't mean they will survive to the next edition.

 

Remember the Hunter? The anti-air Primaris tank. *Poof*

 

On the other hand, inane internet chatter told me that the Knight Lancer (and all its tallboy Knight buddies) would be removed from the legal play and sent to Legends at the start of 8th (and then 9th, 10th, and now 11th) edition... they still arent in the Imperial Knights codex, and people are still playing with them.

 

So just play with the models that you want to play with while you can.

 

Me? I love the new Custodes and am buying more of them to use.

The hunter was a firstborn vehicle released October 2013 in 7th ed.

 

It was removed for 10th iirc in 2023, it was around for 10 years and 3 editions.

 

Nobody was telling you anything would be sent to legends in 8th, as legends weren't a thing until 9th when they rug pulled the HH units for space marines.

 

Since then despite having a plastic kit they could include in a codex, they chose not to. Why? One can only assume they didn't want HH units commonly seen and accepted in 40k. Hence the reticence over the cerastus staying in 40k.

 

The issue with "buy and play with what you like whilst you can" is that I don't want to normalise spending that much money and investing the time into painting a model for it to be sent into the void on a whim.

 

Obviously that can apply to all minis, but there are clear and obvious logical conclusions that will likely happen to some more than others.

[ThaneOfTas]

14 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Nobody was telling you anything would be sent to legends in 8th, as legends weren't a thing until 9th when they rug pulled the HH units for space marines.

Second time that I've seen this claim this week. Legends was absolutely a thing in 8th edition, I dug up an archive link to one of the pdfs to prove it Here's the Blood Angels document backed up from 2019, although I believe it's older than that.

 

And the Heresy Vehicles rugpull was the start of 10th edition, they were fully legal to play when they were introduced at the tail end of 9th edition.

[Mogger351]

10 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Second time that I've seen this claim this week. Legends was absolutely a thing in 8th edition, I dug up an archive link to one of the pdfs to prove it Here's the Blood Angels document backed up from 2019, although I believe it's older than that.

 

And the Heresy Vehicles rugpull was the start of 10th edition, they were fully legal to play when they were introduced at the tail end of 9th edition.

You were right on both accounts, the difference was that 8th was explicitly models that were not produced in the first place iirc ala khorne lord on juggernaut (how times have changed).

 

Active models taken out and sunset didn't happen until later.

 

Again my misremembering on the dates for HH units.

 

Point still stands GW has caused trust issues with their customers and the poor practices need addressing.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

5 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said:

While I appreciate any price drop, what have they reduced (quality-wise) to allow for it?  We know it won’t be from a drop in their profit margin…

They may have realized that they’ve become to expensive and are pricing people out, or coming very close to it.

 

i bet the profit margins on codexes was pretty high, and even with the price cut they could probably produce the same quality codexes and still make a few dollars profit, all the while the customer base feels energized by the announcement of a price cut, and hell that £13 savings will likely go towards buying a new kit which would like net themes higher sales.

[Emperor Ming]

They have tried paper back before and moved to hard back cos of the fraying and wear....

 

So this a stupid money grab move

 

Unless codex's are a tenna

[ThaneOfTas]

30 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Point still stands GW has caused trust issues with their customers and the poor practices need addressing.

Definitely agree with your core point, they need to do better. At the bare minimum, once something goes to legends, they need to commit to it staying there unless it comes back to a codex, no more of this disappearing from one edition to the next, as a sizable chunk of the options in the pdf that I linked did.

 

30 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

the difference was that 8th was explicitly models that were not produced in the first place

Weren't some of the options like the "Command Squad*" with jump packs kits that had existed and just weren't printed together any more?

 

*Obviously the command squad only existed as a rules interaction between the company Veterans, Apothecary, champion and Ancient, but the point stands.

 

Granted, that's still not a kit that was in production up until then that was then taken oop in concert with going to legends as has happened since.

Edited Saturday at 01:53 PM by ThaneOfTas

[Blindhamster]

32 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Definitely agree with your core point, they need to do better. At the bare minimum, once something goes to legends, they need to commit to it staying there unless it comes back to a codex, no more of this disappearing from one edition to the next, as a sizable chunk of the options in the pdf that I linked did.

 

Weren't some of the options like the "Command Squad*" with jump packs kits that had existed and just weren't printed together any more?

 

*Obviously the command squad only existed as a rules interaction between the company Veterans, Apothecary, champion and Ancient, but the point stands.

 

Granted, that's still not a kit that was in production up until then that was then taken oop in concert with going to legends as has happened since.

actually there was a blood angel command squad with jump pack kits at one point. 
 

it had gone oop before then but the rules allowed the old kit to still be used till then.

Edited Saturday at 02:24 PM by Blindhamster

[jaxom]

I'm decently sure I remembered them talk about:

and making a big deal how it was dual-labelled because the models are intended for use in both HH and 40k.

[Dark Shepherd]

With the app support the codexes will get less wear and tear

 

Re agents, their main codex still needs beefing up but the separate points for codex agents and allied agents was brilliant

[01RTB01]

It needs saying that the codexes may be a touch shorter than now, but the new codexes are considerably thicker. The ork codex page count was at least 180 pages iirc which is more than double the current codex.

 

More than double the content for a third off. Let's not grumble for the sake of it on that one. 

[de Selby]

4 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

I get that this is the hobby where you're free to do this. Your guys your lore. But really, that's a bit much. And I know its an official chapter.

Just because tbe Emperor's Spears combine techmarines, apothecaries, librarians, and chaplains into one dude, doesn't mean he's good at all those things.

 

"Look, Brother Steve, the Codex Astartes says we need all these guys, and this week... you're it."

 

 

On topic, thumbs up to cheaper codexes, I haven't bought one in years.

Edited Saturday at 04:24 PM by de Selby

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, jaxom said:

I'm decently sure I remembered them talk about:

and making a big deal how it was dual-labelled because the models are intended for use in both HH and 40k.

And yet none of the other boxes are. It also doesnt answer what happens to the duplicate units/kits.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

I wouldn't put it past GW to release something now in a dual box and then down the line change it. They are a business after all and the bean counters, executives and share holders don't care about anything outside of sell more now, get more money now and to heck with the consequences. 

 

Cheaper codexs just means lower quality. GW won't sacrifice their profit margin.

 

The Ork Codex being 180 pages will be driven mostly from making the pages smaller, not because they've added in lots of new artwork, or a much more comprehensive photo section or multiple painting guides. 

 

Same :cuss:, different day, that's all.

[01RTB01]

1 minute ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

I wouldn't put it past GW to release something now in a dual box and then down the line change it. They are a business after all and the bean counters, executives and share holders don't care about anything outside of sell more now, get more money now and to heck with the consequences. 

 

Cheaper codexs just means lower quality. GW won't sacrifice their profit margin.

 

The Ork Codex being 180 pages will be driven mostly from making the pages smaller, not because they've added in lots of new artwork, or a much more comprehensive photo section or multiple painting guides. 

 

Same :cuss:, different day, that's all.

Have you seen the new codex next to the old codexes? The smaller size is negligible. It's not half the size so 180+ pages does mean more content. 

 

Yes GW would sell their own granny for profit but you can't moan about something that we've not seen the internals of. Lower quality in what sense? 

 

Rogue trader - hardbacks

2nd-6th - paperback 

7th-10th - hardback

11th - paperback 

 

Cheaper doesn't mean lower quality. More expensive doesn't mean better. The 9th/ 10th Ed codexes were expensive and all the bestiary sections went. Objectively the 4th/5th Ed codex was best from PoV of fluff/ background/ rules and functionality.

 

At least let them release it first before criticising...

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

Y'all are exhausting 

[HeadlessCross]

14 hours ago, Craig said:

I don't see anyone talking about this but in the q&a video yesterday they revealed some interesting stuff. The codexes are going to be about 1/3 less expensive than the current ones. If the current ones are £38 that would make the new ones about £25.

I'm still never gonna pay money for physical rules but at least that's a start.

 

Did they say anything of substance besides "Agents are gonna be okay I promise"?

[Mogger351]

13 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

I'm still never gonna pay money for physical rules but at least that's a start.

 

Did they say anything of substance besides "Agents are gonna be okay I promise"?

No, that's pretty much the content of their message