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[Evil Eye]

I like the 4E metal Venerable; there's elements that don't quite do it for me (the toe claws and double thumb) but overall I think it captures the feel of "ancient walking tomb that's even more sacred and old than the other ancient walking tombs" very well.

 

That said, whilst I'd love to get a metal one I prefer the plastic kit due to the sheer amount of options. You can do anything from heavily ornamented fighting relic to a slightly more ornate regular Mk V.

 

I'll definitely echo the desire for a plastic Mk. IV Castraferrum. The FW ones were amazing.

[NothingHere]

I am hoping, with 11th edition pushing primaris further into being more like their firstborn counter parts, that the Venerable Redemptor starts to take more from the castaferrum patterns. 

 

I don't love primaris by any stretch, i only really enjoy it when it is just doing 1 to 1 remakes like the Landspeeder (which isn't quite 1 to 1, but it is much better than the Storm Speeder and atleast attempts to look like what is bringing back) and Terminators. The Redemptor is such a hard one for me to reconcile with cause i don't hate it, the Ballistus made me like it a bit more with how much that one looks like the old plastic boxnaught. Even still they all look too much like mech suits, not enough like walking coffins with guns. Ironically enough the one that is actually a mech suit, the Invictor, would have worked infinitely better as a dreadnought. It is entirely the legs though, the rest is just worse than the Redemptor. 

[Crimson Longinus]

Oh, and it is probably inevitable, that the ven dread will have stupid exposed head, as that has come to be associated with venerableness, but I really hope it doesn't or at least has an option for the proper sarcophagus. 

[Robbienw]

Surely they have to do a MKIV Castaferrum for 30k at some point.

[MoriyaSchism]

20 minutes ago, Crimson Longinus said:

Oh, and it is probably inevitable, that the ven dread will have stupid exposed head, as that has come to be associated with venerableness, but I really hope it doesn't or at least has an option for the proper sarcophagus. 

What I like about the Contemptor/Heresy dreadnoughts and the MK IV is the "head" . It's just a dressed up sensor pod that houses a bunch of optical sensors and an auspex. The issue I have with the plastic Venerable Dreadnought is that they made it look like an exposed Space Marine. The parts are the same size as a Tactical Marine chest and head. 

[Jukkiz]

2 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said:

What I like about the Contemptor/Heresy dreadnoughts and the MK IV is the "head" . It's just a dressed up sensor pod that houses a bunch of optical sensors and an auspex. The issue I have with the plastic Venerable Dreadnought is that they made it look like an exposed Space Marine. The parts are the same size as a Tactical Marine chest and head. 

While it had exposed "torso/head" part, it was an OPTION, People tend to forget that you had an option to actually build one as literal boxnaught, or barely seen head version aswell. 

[nodnol88]

You’d think the Redemptor is primed for an upgrade sprue or two to easily give us loads of variants. Venerable as discussed, but Bjorn or Murderfang should be relatively easy too. 
 

The Redemptor build is such it wouldn’t surprise me if there was some future-proofing considered at its inception. 

Edited 12 hours ago by nodnol88

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

6 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

 

1). Cavalry is always goofy in sci fi settings. This is why it's usually relegated to "backward" societies. In the Imperium this role is filled by the Guard and even within it cavalry is supposed to be unpopular. You can see it also with Craftworlders-Exodites, Tau-Kroot (and Orks, although I don't like either Squighog Boys or giant chariots and I think that both are really pushing what is fit for 40k Orks). SoB don't fit this pattern.

2). We've seen how GW imagines "high-tech" cavalry and I think that Thunderwolves, Serberys and Lord Solar are all ridiculous, two first straighforward infantile. I would also note, that I wasn't blown away by either plastic Attilans or Death Riders. 

3). With SoB aesthetics and GW subtelty, we are getting Bretonnians in space with heavy handed nods to Jeane d'Arc.

4). Not every faction needs to have analogs to other factions' units. It's OK not to have a biker susbstitute. 

A sinner whose wrists and ankles are connected to wheels on either side, a flail thing, and a pair of bolters.

penitent engine but with wheels

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Some sort of Redemptor Ironclad would be cool.  

[Evil Eye]

15 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Some sort of Redemptor Ironclad would be cool.  

If they bring back the Ironclad in some form and give it the Mk. 4 seismic hammer with the eagle head, all will be forgiven. Well, almost.

[jaxom]

50 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

A sinner whose wrists and ankles are connected to wheels on either side, a flail thing, and a pair of bolters.

penitent engine but with wheels

That would be awesome! I personally don't think of that as a Sister model, but it fits the other aesthetic which shares their codex.

[ZeroWolf]

1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

A sinner whose wrists and ankles are connected to wheels on either side, a flail thing, and a pair of bolters.

penitent engine but with wheels

That sounds more like those wheeled things from Return to Oz...

*tries to keep memories suppressed*

[Nephaston]

11 hours ago, Ramell said:

It's mentioned in the 10th ed. Codex Space Marines, page 30.

Don't mind me, just over here, incapable of reading...

[HeadlessCross]

7 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

While it had exposed "torso/head" part, it was an OPTION, People tend to forget that you had an option to actually build one as literal boxnaught, or barely seen head version aswell. 

It was a pretty bad option though. It looked super silly vs how the Contemptors did it. 

[Evil Eye]

Personally I think Dread-Heads can work, though I definitely prefer Contemptor or Mk IV style heads where the head unit is much bigger than a Marine's helmet, and it's ambiguous whether the actual head is in there.

[Orion]

Both Dread heads and caskets work, but the current plastic venerable compromises with options to do neither well.

Looks good on paper but bad in practice.

 

The original dreadnoughts had more of a wedged angle and wires/tubes. 

These sculpts look way better than the venerable, and it bugs me when people act like the Venerable can just magically turn into one.

 

Not hating on heads though. MKIV is cool!