[OW] The Mountainbreakers (OOC)

[Necronaut]

You guys pick whatever you like best for basic weapon -- the sergeant's kit includes a laspistol and chainsword so any longer range weapon is gravy. I do like the idea of the longlas, or possibly lascarbine, whichever makes sense. Also, are we married to being sappers? I like the sappers just fine but I'm unsure if it fits perfectly with our intended regimental operating model. No complaints otherwise.

[Lysimachus]

9 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

I like the sappers just fine but I'm unsure if it fits perfectly with our intended regimental operating model

 

 

It was a bit of a fluff pick, representing a group of independent mountain dwellers+builders rather than a trained/focused Sapper Regiment - and I thought Tech-Use all round might be valuable, especially if we don't have an Enginseer on the squad? But it was definitely a last pick to use the 3 points we gained from Iconoclasts?

 

 

[A.T.]

32 minutes ago, Trokair said:

Not sure where the triplex is comming from? Or was that meant as a (with GM aprovale) substituion for the Longlas and M36 Lasgun.

 

Yes, though carrying a regular lasgun and long-las is much the same. The triplex is a lasgun that has a single shot accurate mode, not as powerful as a long las but all in one gun.

 

That said you do get a lot more ammo with the regular guns...

[Trokair]

2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

@Trokair for Throne's sake, lad, take these dice:

 

36, 37, 33, 32, 32, 33, 34, 32, 24

 

GM hasn't forced those others on you, and you're breaking your bonce over them, so just have these, ok?

 

Sorry, missed your post earlier.

 

They do look good, thank you, but I’ll stick with the stats I now have. I should have trusted in the first rolled ones rather than doubt them, so it is what it is.

[Mazer Rackham]

If you wanted Snipers and Sappers, you could ditch Iconoclasts, and instead, take 'The Few'.

 

One Drawback, 5 Points, Reinforcements are much harder to come by. Still suits the world, but...if your Comrade gets his head blown off - might be a while until you get a new one.

[Mojake]

Let's try and have the regiment picks and equipment all wrapped up by midweek please, folks. Then we'll aim to have all of the background details done by end of week.

[Lysimachus]

Ok, laying it all out:

 

Regiment Creation:

 

Frontier (3)
CO Phlegmatic (1)

Line Infantry Regiment (3)*

 

Doctrines:
Die Hards (3)
Hardened Fighters (2)
Sappers (3)
Snipers (2)*

 

Drawbacks:
The Few (-5)

 

Total: 3+1+3+3+2+3+2-5 = 12

 

Additional Equipment: (30)

Common to Best Flak Armour (10)
Microbead (8)
Chrono (2)
Laspistol Sidearm (5)
Grapnel & Line (5)

 

Favoured Weapons:
Melta Gun
Autocannon

 

*Gains M36 and Long-las, with GM permission swap both for Triplex? (Between that and Best Quality Flak, it looks like our Regimental forebears that settled Mirador III were quite veteran/well-equipped!)

 

 

Edited.

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 07:53 AM by Lysimachus

[Mojake]

4 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Snipers is +4, and the Few is -5, giving 1 extra.

 

Each leftover point gives 2 points for extra kit selection FYI.

 

8 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

*Gains M36 and Long-las, with GM permission swap both for Triplex? (Between that and Best Quality Flak, it looks like our Regimental forebears that settled Mirador III were quite veteran/well-equipped!)

 

Just to be clear, the longlas replaces the lasgun or vice versa, due to the parenthesis in the entry stating it's the regiment's main weapon (can't have two main weapons I'm afraid - errata is clear on it). So I think trading up a scarce to a rare might be a little too good, and you'll need to spend the points to do it.

[Trokair]

Table 1-3 on page 33 of SoH has Snipers at 2

[A.T.]

19 minutes ago, Mojake said:

So I think trading up a scarce to a rare might be a little too good, and you'll need to spend the points to do it.

 

I was just trying to avoid lumping players with a long-las that didn't want to be a sniper.

I think we are safe without the swap though as the specialists have their own guns and the regular guard get a second weapon anyway?

[Lysimachus]

13 minutes ago, Trokair said:

Table 1-3 on page 33 of SoH has Snipers at 2

 

 

Derp, was reading Sharpshooters... will edit.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Mojake said:

Just to be clear, the longlas replaces the lasgun or vice versa, due to the parenthesis in the entry stating it's the regiment's main weapon (can't have two main weapons I'm afraid - errata is clear on it).

 

 

I kind of thought as much. Would having both available allow individual players to choose which type of gun they'd want as their Main, or is it an all or nothing kind of thing?

 

[Mojake]

3 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Would having both available allow individual players to choose which type of gun they'd want as their Main, or is it an all or nothing kind of thing?

 

From the errata:

 

Question: If a regiment is created with two or more options that replace its Main Weapon, which one applies as its Main Weapon?

Answer: Those involved in creating the regiment (presumably, the players and the Game Master) choose which one becomes the regiment’s Main Weapon.

Edited yesterday at 07:55 AM by Mojake

[Lysimachus]

Fair enough. Is the Errata in the Drive folder? I might have missed it, need to have a read through of it...

 

Edit: scratch that, got it!

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:02 AM by Lysimachus

[Lysimachus]

All of Cal's Equipment:

 

 

1 Melta Gun (if agreed Favoured) - 15kg
2 Reloads - 3kg
1 Lasgun (Main) - 4kg
3 Reloads - 1.2kg
1 Laspistol (Sidearm) - 1.5kg
2 Reloads - 0.3kg
1 Knife (mono) - 1kg
1 set Guard Flak Armour - 11kg (or Best Quality 5.5kg)
1 Microbead
1 Chrono
1 Grapnel & Line - 2kg
1 Lascutter - 4kg
1 uniform
1 set of poor weather gear
1 rucksack or sling bag
1 set of basic tools
1 mess kit and one water canteen
1 rechargeable lamp pack - 0.5kg
1 blanket and 1 sleeping bag
1 grooming kit
1 set of cognomen tags or equivalent identification
1 primer or instructional handbook
Combat sustenance rations, two weeks’ supply

 

 

 

I've checked my weights, and if Cal carries everything he's got (I'm ignoring any kit that doesn't have a listed weight based on Mojake's previous comment) he's on 43.5kg, which is 7.5 over his 36kg limit.

 

Now, I won't carry the lascutter (no point while carrying a melta?) so that's 4 less, bringing him down to 39.5kg.

 

If we take the Best Flak, that's another 5.5kg taken off, which puts me under where I need to be at 34kg.

 

If we don't take it, I'll still need to find 3.5kg.

 

But if Tro or MG are willing, I can give some stuff for one of the Ogryns to carry? The 2 melta reloads for 3kg, 1 Lasgun reload for 0.4kg, 1 Laspistol reload for 0.15kg. That's 3.55kg in total, bringing me to 0.05kg under my limit!

 

 

So personally I don't need to take the Best Quality Flak, if people want to do something else with those 10 points?

 

Edit: and I suspect, primarily due to the weight of his Melta, Cal might have been one of the worst cases for approaching Encumbrance? The others might be ok, so we might not need the weight saving?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:49 AM by Lysimachus
Swapped Sword back to Mono Knife, saved 2kg

[Machine God]

11 hours ago, Necronaut said:

You guys pick whatever you like best for basic weapon -- the sergeant's kit includes a laspistol and chainsword so any longer range weapon is gravy. I do like the idea of the longlas, or possibly lascarbine, whichever makes sense. Also, are we married to being sappers? I like the sappers just fine but I'm unsure if it fits perfectly with our intended regimental operating model. No complaints otherwise.

 

If we lose Sappers then Maks gets 2 pts of Intelligence thicker. 

 

Maks the Mule. (Don't give him your food) 

 

 

 

WS: 42

 

BaS: 40

STR: 53

TGH: 50

AGL: 13

INT: 24

PER: 23

WIL: 20

FEL: 20

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:54 AM by Machine God
Ballistic Skill

[Lysimachus]

15 hours ago, Mojake said:

Any more thoughts on the bits on orange in the above, folks? I think meltagun and autocannon was thrown around for favoured weapons, but there wasn't too much discussion on them.

 

I think it could be a good idea to have a linguistic touchstone for names of the locals of Mirabor, perhaps one for the settlers and one for the natives - although the latter being similar to Aztec is working quite well. If we come up with a relatively consistent naming convention, I'll flesh out the CO.

 

I was thinking about the regiment name; since we've thrown around the idea that the great-grandparents' generation are settlers from an old Guard unit, and the planet being sparsely populated, it makes sense to have had roughly 5-10 foundings since Mirabor was settled based on the manpower tithe and one or two emergencies. So perhaps something like the 8th Mirabor Rifles (or Mountaineers). I reckon the regiment was raised as part of the planet's tithe, but where the campaign starts is up for debate - are we relatively green, or have we seen our fair share of action and have been re-ordered into a new squad to bulk out losses?

 

 

I like 8th Mirador Rifles (or I think Mazer suggested Rangers?)

 

Yeah, 8th Miradoran Rangers would be my vote. 'Mountain-Breakers' as suggested by Tro could be a moniker of some sort?

 

Maybe based on the meaning of Mirador being 'watchtower', a simple fort or castle icon would be appropriate as a badge?

 

 

 

(Funnily enough, very similar to one of my DIY Astartes Chapters, but different colours could easily fix that?)

 

Appearance: I can't see them as being 'parade ground' smart and identical? I wouldn't have thought they'd have much of a uniform, maybe a bit scruffy or mismatched. Perhaps grey/brown fatigues?

 

I wouldn't want to lean too heavily into the 'wild west' theme, so wouldn't go with hats... but flak dusters could be kinda cool?

 

Names: If we are specifying, Mirador is presumably Latin/Spanish origin. I did go with Molina for Cal's surname (was going to call him Miller, but went with the Spanish version!)

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:56 AM by Lysimachus

[Trokair]

2 hours ago, A.T. said:

I was just trying to avoid lumping players with a long-las that didn't want to be a sniper.

I think we are safe without the swap though as the specialists have their own guns and the regular guard get a second weapon anyway?

 

2 hours ago, Lysimachus said:

I kind of thought as much. Would having both available allow individual players to choose which type of gun they'd want as their Main, or is it an all or nothing kind of thing?

 

 

So take Sniper for the +2 BS and Marksman but keep the M36 Lasgun from Line Infantry. 

[Machine God]

Maks: "Dat's not the Wotchtowa. Is da Zigrat! 'Corse the Ffolk doesn't usually go in da Mirrador, cos it's dark in dere!" 

 

 

 

[Lysimachus]

1 hour ago, Trokair said:

 

 

So take Sniper for the +2 BS and Marksman but keep the M36 Lasgun from Line Infantry. 

 

 

Agreed. Melta is only 20m Range, but with Marksman I can fire it up to its Extreme (x3) Range of 60m without penalty!  (though obviously it doesn't benefit from the Melta rule if not at Short Range)

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:23 AM by Lysimachus

[Machine God]

1 hour ago, Lysimachus said:

 

Maybe based on the meaning of Mirador being 'watchtower', a simple fort or castle icon would be appropriate as a badge?

 

 

 

Perhaps their Regimental nickname is 'The Rooks'

 

 

 

[Mojake]

I did like Mountainbreakers.

[Mazer Rackham]

I could use two extra laspistol mags. If folks want to offload one on me, I'll take (and empty!) it.

 

You'll get it back on resupply, anyway.

[Lysimachus]

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I could use two extra laspistol mags. If folks want to offload one on me, I'll take (and empty!) it.

 

You'll get it back on resupply, anyway.

 

 

 He had a character called Jackdaw... this one is still Jack, but more of a magpie? 

 

 

Edit: aren't you already lumping around Carapace Plate and a 10kg hotshot backpack?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:42 PM by Lysimachus

[BadgersinHills]

Just rolled up my stats, and will have a detailed look at the regiment choices tomorrow when I'm less groggy. 

 

I've been thinking about the background - if it doesn't feel contrived to have Ratlings and Ogryns on the same planet I was thinking of Ratlings living in jungles and forests as hunters and foragers, which fits in nicely with their traditional role as snipers. 

[Mazer Rackham]

30 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

 He had a character called Jackdaw... this one is still Jack, but more of a magpie? 

Edit: aren't you already lumping around Carapace Plate and a 10kg hotshot backpack?

 

Yes indeed!

 

My current load: 41.3 Kilos (without Lascutter) out of 56kg.

 

Wanna piggyback to the shops? 

 

We could get Rolos..!