Lysimachus Posted yesterday at 04:52 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:52 PM Very nice, some cracking rolls there! Side point - unfortunately, I don't think you can take Defence as your extra Aptitude for doubling up on Toughness? It says you pick one that is Characteristic-named, 1 of the 9 Characteristics? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted yesterday at 04:58 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:58 PM 1 minute ago, Lysimachus said: ide point - unfortunately, I don't think you can take Defence as your extra Aptitude for doubling up on Toughness? It says you pick one that is Characteristic-named, 1 of the 9 Characteristics? Ah, didn't spot that bit. Still no worries, since that makes me SB/TB 7, which is 45 kilos, so well within spec. Instead of a piggyback, I'll carry your shopping. Hmm, what to choose.... Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM (edited) Oof I forgot that with OW your character is not guaranteed to start off with either parry or dodge training. I'm guessing the IG still adheres to the Napoleonic War model of formation fighting? Edit: are we making further tweaks to the regiment or leaving it as-is for now? Edited yesterday at 05:22 PM by Necronaut Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted yesterday at 05:20 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:20 PM 20 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Hmm, what to choose.... Looks like you've got the key (shooty) combat ones...? Could go WS as the obvious, or what about Wp or Per to represent the mental conditioning and training of Storm Trooper regiments? Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM 13 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Edit: are we making further tweaks to the regiment or leaving it as-is for now? Tweak away, sir Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted yesterday at 05:40 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:40 PM (edited) 28 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Could go WS as the obvious, or what about Wp or Per to represent the mental conditioning and training of Storm Trooper regiments? Per could be a goer, but Intelligence opens more skills. A lot of them - and it improves Nav, Security, Demolitions, and opens up Trade specs. I have also just realised I can get Medicae cheap. I won't be replacing Ikka, but could support him. It also opens up Exotic Weapon Training. Weapon Skill opens up the other side of the tree. I could drop my BaS advance, and spend 200xp to get Swift Attack, if I'm reading this right. Blackjack Thorne took an Axe, And gave his foe a damn good whack, Seeing the man standing dumb, Blackjack gave him a second one. Strength is another one I could use. Talent-based, paired with Offence, which I have. Got a lot to think about. EDIT: On another note, if you want something that blends mountainous and rangerism, you could always try '8th Miridoran Pioneer Regiment' on for size. That evokes frontiersmen, and rockhounds, as well as trench diggers and sappers. Pioneers cut many a Trench Sap in WW1. Also 8th Miradoran Mountain Rangers, similar in setup to the American 10th Mountain (light Infantry) Division, who assaulted a stronghold in the Italian campaign in WW2, called Belvedere Point. A Belvedere is a summerhouse with a fine view thanks to good elevation, and is synonymous with a Mirador - (Spanish) a watchtower, or elevated lookout point/station. Edited 23 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Mojake and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) Ignore this, I clearly can't do maths... Edited 23 hours ago by Lysimachus Mojake and Machine God 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago @Mazer Rackham I was considering picking up Intelligence as a replacement for my doubled-up Toughness aptitudes as well, but Agility will make Dodge advances that much cheaper for me. Genuinely torn on this one. Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham and Mojake 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Scrutiny, Security, Sleight of Hand, Stealth, Survival and Tech-Use don't have their characteristics in brackets. I know that Tech-Use is Int though. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Maverick could be kinda good, Resistance: Fear for a little bit of boosted morale...? Sounds good to me. Not sure we can buy anythign usefull with 2 extra equipment points. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Machine God said: Scrutiny, Security, Sleight of Hand, Stealth, Survival and Tech-Use don't have their characteristics in brackets. I know that Tech-Use is Int though. Pg 103 Machine God and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, Trokair said: Sounds good to me. Not sure we can buy anythign usefull with 2 extra equipment points. Forget about it... I had Line Infantry as 3 rather than 2 But I also somehow had Frontier World as 3 rather than 4 So it is what it is, unless we want to make wider changes. What did you have in mind, @Necronaut? Machine God and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Machine God said: Scrutiny, Security, Sleight of Hand, Stealth, Survival and Tech-Use don't have their characteristics in brackets. Scrutiny (Per), Security (Int), Sleight of Hand (Ag), Stealth (Ag), Survival (Per) and Tech-Use (Int) updating my sheet now so I have it to had later. Lysimachus and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Mazer Rackham I was considering picking up Intelligence as a replacement for my doubled-up Toughness aptitudes as well, but Agility will make Dodge advances that much cheaper for me. Genuinely torn on this one. You can't Parry bullets, but you can eat them. Unless your Ag is absolute crap, get a Dodge. Better to not be hit than soak it. Machine God, Necronaut and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Forget about it... I had Line Infantry as 3 rather than 2 But I also somehow had Frontier World as 3 rather than 4 So on Average perfectly correct. Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: What did you have in mind, @Necronaut? None whatsoever -- just wanted to make sure I had all of the bonuses and drawbacks tallied correctly on my character sheet. 2 minutes ago, Trokair said: So on Average perfectly correct. I see we have a statistician in the house. Edited 23 hours ago by Necronaut BadgersinHills, Trokair and Lysimachus 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: '8th Miridoran Pioneer Regiment' I vote this for offical name, with Mountainbreakers as a moniker. Lysimachus and BadgersinHills 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: '8th Miradoran Pioneer Regiment' 38 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: '8th Miradoran Mountain Rangers' Just saw this edit, I like both of these. '8th Miradoran Pioneers' works better with Tro's 'Mountain-breakers' moniker, I reckon? Edit: Tro, we're in sync again! ...are you worried? Edited 23 hours ago by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham, Trokair and BadgersinHills 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Edit: Tro, we're in sync again! ...are you worried? Your dice are. All your dice. All of them. Lysimachus and Trokair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: '8th Miradoran Pioneers' This also Black Jack's chosen weapon. Pioneers carry Axes. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Machine God said: Pioneers carry Axes. They do sir, as do mountaineers. Axes are very handy for 'braking' a fall. I would also submit a drop harness as standard gear might be a touch better than a grapnel. The Drop harness gives +30 to descent climbs, and if failed, you don't fall. If we're not taking Good Qual Flak, maybe both are back on the table? Edited 22 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Unless your Ag is absolute crap, get a Dodge. Better to not be hit than soak it. That's why Maks took Parry. It's easier to rull under 42 than 13. Also Ripper Guns and Warhammer's don't have Unbalanced or Unwieldy. Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago GM - As a Ripper Gun 'counts as' a Warhammer in Melee can Maks upgrade his Ripper Gun with Mono? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 31 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: I would also submit a drop harness as standard gear might be a touch better than a grapnel. The Drop harness gives +30 to descent climbs, and if failed, you don't fall. It's a fair point, I wasn't sure between the two, happy with either. 31 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: If we're not taking Good Qual Flak, maybe both are back on the table? I'm not sure if weight is an issue for anyone else? If it is, Good Qual Flak definitely fixes the issue, and AV5 is a cherry? I think, even if we don't go with the armour upgrade, I might stick with just grapnel or drop harness. I'd maybe spend the extra 10 on either photo-contacts or respirators? (either of which is 8, find something else for the last 2?) Edit: So: Microbead (8) Chrono (2) Drop Harness (5) Laspistol Sidearm (5) Respirator or Photo-Visor (8) ??? (2) Edited 22 hours ago by Lysimachus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojake Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Machine God said: GM - As a Ripper Gun 'counts as' a Warhammer in Melee can Maks upgrade his Ripper Gun with Mono? Yeah that's fine by me, of course it would only count for the melee profile. What does it look like? Edited 22 hours ago by Mojake Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387880-ow-the-mountainbreakers-ooc/page/12/#findComment-6170719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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