Phalanx Warder

I am in love with the Laser destroyers so that would go on the spartan, the las cannons on the Land Raider but yes the rest is from the Melta bomb vets and terminators. I have dropped the Jetbike on the Praetor and his command squad and added Angry Ron, who would go with Galan and the Praetor in the kharybdis.

So here is what I am thinking, throw the large dispoiler squad w/ galan in the kharybdis, vets and one of the other despoiler squads in the deadclaws, Terminators in spartan W/ contemptors, despoilers in Land Raider and jetbikes rush up the field: +++ World Eaters Smash Face (3500pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (3500pts) ++ + HQ (740pts) + Gahlan Surlak (110pts) Legion Praetor (630pts) [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Legion Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Melta Bombs, Paragon Blade] ····Legion Command Squad [4x Combat Shield, Legion Scimitar Jetbikes with Heavy Bolters, 4x Legion Space Marine Chosen, Melta Bombs, Power Fist, 4x Power Weapon] + Troops (635pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (180pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Squad (270pts) [Exchange their Bolters for a Chainsword or Combat Blade, 17x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist] Legion Tactical Squad (185pts) [Exchange their Bolters for a Chainsword or Combat Blade, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon] + Elites (1415pts) + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon (300pts) ····Cortus Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon] ····Cortus Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon] Legion Terminator Squad (740pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 3x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 2x Pair of Lightning Claws, 4x Power Fist] ····Legion Spartan Assault Tank [Dozer Blade, Flare Shield] ····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Chainfist] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (375pts) [Fearless, Heavy Chainsword, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Melta Bombs, Pair of Lightning Claws, 7x Power Weapon, 2x Volkite Serpenta] ····Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Thunder Hammer, Volkite Serpenta] + Fast Attack (200pts) + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod (100pts) Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod (100pts) + Heavy Support (510pts) + Legion Kharybdis Assault Claw (260pts) Legion Land Raider Battle Squadron (250pts) [Land Raider Phobos] + Legion + Legion Astartes [Traitor, XII: World Eaters] Created with BattleScribe Could that work?

so you are saying have a Spartan of a Storm Eagle follow up?

Okay my fellow eaters of worlds, having read through the last few pages of this tactica I have become obsessed with running the Crimson Path with 1-2 Kharybdis assault claws and 2-3 Dreadclaw pods. I have the funds to make it happen. But its a massive investment for me and well I have to ask is it viable? I am not a power gamer but I dont want to loose every game I play. Thoughts would be appreciated.

Has anyone given much thought to the Stone Gauntlet supported by Kharybdis pods? Expensive as hell but 40+ melta bomb T5 breachers in your gunline is going to hurt!

Alright son's of Dorn listen up! I got to play the Hammer Fall RoW tonight against Necrons.... WOW so much fun! I actually lost but probably the funnest game of 30/40k I have ever played. I want to show you my list and share my thoughts so here was my list: + HQ (165pts) + Alexis Polux (165pts) + Troops (625pts) + Legion Tactical Squad (200pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Teleport Transponder] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs] Legion Tactical Squad (200pts) [9x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Teleport Transport] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs] Legion Tactical Support Squad (225pts) [9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Calivers] + Elites (900pts) + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon (480pts) ····Cortus Dreadnought [Plasma Blaster, Multi-Melta] ····Cortus Dreadnought [Heavy Flamer, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon] ····Cortus Dreadnought [Heavy Flamer, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon] Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (110pts) ····Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array] ····Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Laser Destroyer Array] Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (310pts) [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Melta Bombs, Nuncio-Vox, Sniper, Teleport Transponder] ····Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour] + Heavy Support (310pts) + Legion Artillery Tank Squadron (310pts) [Legion Medusa, Legion Medusa] We deployed in the Hammer and Anvil manner and rolled for Blood Feud (I chose his flyers as my objective) Okay, (takes deep breath, probably going to butcher this) I won the roll off for deployment and I opted to go second to see how he would deploy given his numerical superiority. He wasn't using the Necron decurion list and was running a bound list. He had a large blob of warriors and two 10 man versions of the same, 2 squads of wraiths, 3 squads of destroyers, heavy destroyers, 2 independent characters, a spider w/Scarabs, the Necron version of Jet Bikes and two of the necron flyers. He placed everything bar the flyers on the board and I had my Volkites, Contemptors and Rapiers. So before the game started he had 12 squads (one with IC attached) on the table to my 3 (one of my three was a talon of 3 Cortus Contemptors giving me 5), Making it past turn one would be a chore. Before I get further into the game and how it all went down I will say in a strictly 30k setting I do not think outside of playing against Night Lords/appropriately equipped Raven Guard, super large games, when you feel like Deep Striking terminators or on a boards with large amounts of terrain (City's of Death) that this RoW has much oomph. So I survived turn one in excellent shape with my MM Contemptor getting a charge off on some destroyers after over loading its reactor for the +1 movement and charge distance, one was shaken and I lost a single Volkite gunner, I was optimistic that I might be around long enough to force a blind test! My next turn he was pressing my line hard but again I came out in pretty good shape even though both of his flyers had came on and I had lost a Cortus. Veterans w/Polux and Medusa's were all I was able to call upon this turn. Polux managed to not scatter and land in a position to force 7 Units to take a blind test, six failed! the Medeusas killed off his JBE unit. From this point on it all sorts of blurs. I managed to destroy one of my Tac Squads on the deep strike mishap table. The other again managed to cripple over half of his force! Anyway the game finished with only 6 miniatures from a Tac Squad, 2 rapier carriages and the Volkite Sgt left on the table. I managed to kill off both of his flyers with my Rapiers! It was was mutually agreed that had my second Tac Squad made it on the board that I would have done enough work for me to have taken victory. Shrouded is huge if you manage to get into ruins giving everyone Artificer Armor but even bigger was his low Initiative that made the Necrons largely ineffective. My take away from this was even though it was mad fun, it isn't reliable as a means of assuring victory. There is a relatively high cost with this RoW points tax to make it work. I had an Apothecary's points tied up in Teleport Transponders alone. From a fluff point it was mad cool having the small guys come in via Deepstrike and make a large impact on the game! I think that the next time I play a list like this I will change out the Medusa's for my 10 man Autocannon squad only so they don't have to arrive from reserve.

I recommend that you give the Delegatus a serious look, he grants Master of the legion for cheep and gives you access to GoS and HSF RoW's. Anyone want to critique my list 2k ZM vs. Raven Guard: +++ Kill the Raven Guard!! (1990pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List ((Zone Mortalis) Attacker) (1990pts) ++ + HQ (115pts) + Legion Delegatus (115pts) Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Melta Bombs, Solarite Power Gauntlet Master of the Legion [The Stone Gauntlet] + Elites (370pts) + Apothecarion Detachment (120pts) ····Legion Apothecary (60pts) Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner ····Legion Apothecary (60pts) Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (250pts) 2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, Legion Vexilla, Sniper Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnaught Talon (465) Contemptor-Cortus Multi Melta, DCCW w/ Heavy Flamer Contemptor-Cortus Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, DCCW w/ Heavy Flamer Contemptor-Cortus Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, DCCW w/ Heavy Flamer + Troops (1000pts) + Legion Breacher Siege Squad (320pts) 2x Flamer, Legion Vexilla, Melta Bombs, Artificer Armour Legion Breacher Siege Squad (320pts) 2x Flamer, Legion Vexilla, Melta Bombs, Artificer Armour Phalanx Warder Squad (405pts) Legion Vexilla (15pts), 3x Plasma gun, Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs

Here is the 2k list I just ran against Dark Eldar and it hammered hard. HQ Delegatus (AA, Refractor Field, PW) MoS (AA, Refractor Field) Troops X 2 Legion Tactical Squad (AA, Vex, Vox) Legion Tactical Support Squad (10 man, Volkite Calivers, AA) Elite x 2 Legion Apothecaries Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (AA, MB, x 2 Heavy Bolters, Sniper USR, Vex, Vox) x 2 Laser Rapier Destroyers Heavy Support x 2 Legion Medusas Legion Vindicator Legion Heavy Support Squad (10 man, Auto Cannons, AA) Not strong anti air but still hits hard!

Holy crap, what in intro! Looking forward to this Mr. The Psycho. Followed.

Damn it Hesh and Unk Legionnairy, damn you both and your sound logic! ;)

Ok Hammer Fall Strike Force question. *This could be me been stubborn* There are no restrictions in this RoW that make me have to start with a unit on the table, disallowing fortifications and making all vehicles start in reserve further lead me to believe that FW intention was to have this force arrive via deep strike turn 1. The whole premise of this force is that it is a shock attack on the enemy "The force utilises rare". This RoW is junk if you have to place infantry only on the table leave your vehicles in reserve and cant take fortifications, you are going to be tabled turn 1 against stuff like a typhon

There I go reading stuff wrong again. I was thinking a Siege Breaker armed with 2 Assault cannons......

A TDA Siege Breaker with a Terminator Squad Equipped with 2 Assault Cannons could be pretty hilarious. Wait... is that a thing? If So challenge accepted!

So what is every ones views on the new RoW? I am unsure how it would work if you took a teleport only army, would you deploy the job lot in turn 1? If some one cares to break that down for me that would be awesome! @MakoBoy88 Nothing Exactly depicting each stage but I do have some in progress shots. In this picture I had just started work on the turret (50/50 stage) so the hull is in the 25/75 stage here: Here is the 100% yellow, you can see the entire process around the side sponsons: I forgot to mention that you need to add a layer of Tamiya clear yellow/casandora wash it really helps the yellow pop: and done: