LameBeard

Gork (or possibly Mork)

Never been more proud to respectfully disagree. Seeing build in progress can still inspire your fellow hobbyists. I’ve managed to build 3 of 5-man flamer squad. Pretty weak progress I know, but it’s something?

Probably the answer here is: A new core set of rules for using your Legions Imperialis models that actually pretends to be parallel not a replacement. A bit like the Blood Bowl Sevens or whatever. Let’s call it: Horus Heresy Epic Scale for now. Face-saving reason for new rules is to allow you to play games quicker (hence will speed up melee). Tournaments need quicker games. Hence it becomes the standard for “competitive” games. Hence it effectively becomes the official rules people care about. “Pick up” games also get timed out so adopt them. Part 2 of the plan: the rules are released as an experiment through Warhammer+ subscription, a bit like the WD vault. It’s not free but not paid for either - somewhere in between. Rules and balance need such a rewrite that new army lists will also be needed and they can release month by month, start with marine and finish with titans because by definition less immediate need in what might be slightly smaller games. Then a hardback “compendium” at the end of the year a bit like Kill Team and guess what the people who liked it on the app will buy the book too and so will a few new ones.

Victimless crime

Hey I appreciate your good humour in the response, @Captain Idaho. What I was saying is that “a higher price than they really should” is a very radical argument. In a market economy, supply=demand determines the price. If someone else determines the price at what it “should” be, then you will need a rationing mechanism. So far, so predictable, economics 101. But your earlier point is much more interesting “their social lives and often sense of self is tied to their hobbies”. What can we do as a community to help people here? Because I see this hobby having a host of benefits, sometimes it’s peaceful solitude when painting, sometimes it’s a great bonding time with friends over a battle. But if anyone thinks they need the newest, shiniest thing to take part in that, they are wrong. I spend on the fringes of this hobby: eBay second-hand deals, box-splitting, FLGS discounts. I am trying to send the signal to GW that I won’t pay their prices. But I still buy more than I paint. I still can’t say I *need* more. It would be ridiculous to accuse GW of forcing me into poverty through their prices - we are a million miles from that. Yet there are people struggling and at the margin this hobby could be more inclusive. sorry it got serious, lame jokes delayed.

You can’t have it both ways @Captain Idaho. GW is a public company which seeks to maximise profits. If it can maximise profits by putting up prices, it will. If it can maximise profits by building US manufacturing facilities, it should. Given that they create new products all the time, moulds don’t need to be moved, factory 4 could be in the US and start from scratch. Some models could be made there and exported back to UK/rest of world, and some carry on being UK-built and go the other way, waving to each other as they cross the Atlantic. They already experimented with terrain and books made in China, so it’s possible. Personally I would have wanted GW to do this a year or two ago. Right now, investment in the US looks tricky though - investors like stability and policy doesn't looks stable from the outside. Mods - if this is too close to politics, sorry, please delete and I’ll just add some lame joke instead.

Reactions are now cards (RRP £19.99). And it includes a special card that is a reaction to a reaction so by the time both are resolved no-one can remember what the original move/shoot/charge was and whose turn it was.

If I remember rightly, it was Cubicle 7 who did the 1st edition of the One Ring, and they did a good job of allowing you to make meaningful difference to the universe whilst still respecting the tone and overall shape of Tolkien’s story. It’s difficult, but possible. I’m still a bit sceptical of how this might work in Horus Heresy. I’m playing a Salamander on their way to Istvaan and I get hailed by an Alpha Legion ship. Am I meant to roleplay surprise when it turns out they lied to me?

I had not seen that lore. Surely we’ve seen green dreads recently? The other thing I remember is that in Second Edition I think there was the option to put a dreadnought on a “flatbed” rhino. Idea seemed to catch on for White Scar players. Ravenwing could do it.

The great thing about Warhammer is that there is not such thing as “horribly over-sized”. Dooooo iiiittttt.

I believe there was once a Ravenwing venerable dreadnought in White Dwarf, modelled as stepping off a drop-pod. That was the rationalization for keeping up with his brothers. I like @Interrogator Stobz version, but I think there’s room for both.

42 degrees Celsius at 10am!? It sounds like living on Baal. Terrain is looking amazing though - kudos to you for following through and making the vision a reality.

Pointy ‘Eads? Or Pointy Ears?

Truly incredible skill and devotion.

I agree a party of Eldar works well in the 40k theme: they are few in a galaxy of myriad threats. Their response to these threats will not always be direct violence. Instead subterfuge, diplomacy, exploration, assassination, ambush, negotiation are all real roleplay possibilities, actually much more interesting than straight soldiers. And @ThePenitentOne’s idea of the path system is clever - it could be like careers in the original Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. I love Horus Heresy and I love space marines and I love RPGs but I’m not especially excited about the middle of that Venn diagram. Like when I read the Gaunts Ghosts novels, the best bits are when he’s fighting (sometimes through violence, sometimes through politics) other branches of the Imperium. That theme would make a great RPG. I feel like there’s only a narrow window for that sort of thing in the Heresy. A mixed race party is more difficult but I can see (say) a T’au Water caste with a Kroot mercenary and a human who is non-Imperial having some fun adventures on the fringes of Imperial Space - and it’s fun because the Imperium will be generally suspicious but need not be so hostile that violence is the immediate response. For extra fun the human is actually ex-Imperial, but doesn’t reveal that.