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Ave I have decided to join this forum in order to find tips and suggestions on how to go about with an Imperial Knight army. The IK have been a long time passion of mine. I still remember having the old models and now that I can budget and play such an army I have decided to begin a "walk". Since the IK are an expensive army I would like to hear the wisdom of more experienced players on several things concerning me, here we go. I play in a setting where FW is not exactly welcome. I don't know why but FW models are rather the exception than the norm so I have to work with the standard GW Imperial Knights as my foundation. The idea is to build a core of three Imperial Knights and supplement this with the Mechanicus. So... Which Imperial Knights should be the staple for my army? Which Mechanicus/Skitarii units should be the allied detachment for my army? Which formation should I consider? Which good and bad points does an IK army have? In my area we usually play 1850 points and we use the ETC format so the missions are often hard. My main army has been IG for a long time but now I feel the need for an upscaling. My opponents are the ever present Eldar, Tau and Space Marines, Necron and 'Nids are also quite nasty. What worries me is the AA element for many of my opponents field nasty flyers and I am also concerned for the increase of Drop Pod armies. Said that I have an idea for an army somehow set in place. I want a Mechanicus aligned army so the newly released Mechanicus/Skitarii are the models I plan to use in order to fill up the points. My budget is currently limited to an average of 500 Eur cca. so a buying list would be helpful too. I am not that good with painting but I really like the Knights so I would be glad if you can point me to some nice painting tutorials for this model. Thanks Seneschal

So, I'm just thinking of starting to get in to the Adeptus Mechanicus focusing more on the Skitarii side of things. What would be a good way to start developing one's collection? Also what would one likely want to work with Kill Team? I know the specific new Kill Team information isn't out yet, but some of it will likely be influenced by what is available now.

Hello everyone, this is my very first attempt at modeling and painting so please give me as much advice as you can. I am honestly a little hesitant to post after looking through everyone else's WIP, so please be gentle . I am currently working on some Atlantian Spears, which is a minor footnote successor chapter to the Blood Angels. Their main claim to fame is not answering the call to return to Baal, and having a major emphasis placed on their Librarians. I chose them accidentally, I was trying to make Space Sharks and my attempts at a sea green/gray tinged armor ended up a much brighter teal than I expected. So a quick google search led me to the Spears, and I thought "screw it, let's go for that then". I had the push together marines from the Recruit edition starter box, and they are all painted except for one last guy (the only one without a helmet, which is intimidating me into putting it off lol). So this is my group from the recruit box https://imgur.com/H22TfYT https://imgur.com/ykrJAdD https://imgur.com/8nS5rGS https://imgur.com/rwlwikF https://imgur.com/050vGDd https://imgur.com/050vGDd https://imgur.com/ChozWEF I know they are very rough, but I am torn about whether I should try to go back and touch them up or if they are too chunky looking as it is. I had issues with trying to thin my paints, I could never get the ratio right and it seemed far too watery and light, so I'd end up going back over it not thinned at all to try and fill in the gaps. Which leads me to my next group, I started painting and was instantly hooked, so I already picked up a box of Primaris Intercessors and started to prime them as well. I enjoyed modeling them a lot as well, the recruit edition was push fit and very specific on what goes where so when I opened this box and realized I could just go crazy making them however I wanted I had a blast. https://imgur.com/2UjrlCf This is some of my Intercessors after 1 coat of white Vallejo primer. I was actually curious because I could never tell how primed I needed it to be. This is after 1 coat and I feel like it's still way too gray, but my first batch took 3 coats until I thought it looked right and I'm wondering if that's part of the reason they are so chunky looking. For comparison, here is the last of my squad from the starter set with 3 coats of primer on him, which I feel like looks way better but I am going into this completely blind so I may be doing everything wrong lol. https://imgur.com/6PKKP9g Well, that's all I have right now, comments and criticisms are more than welcome! Like I said, I went into this completely blind, I watched two or three Duncan videos just to get some ideas but for the most part I just went for it. My main questions right now if anyone could help me out are 1.) Are my coats too thick? Everyone keeps saying "thin your paints" but I've never gotten a clear explanation of how EXACTLY to do that? I've been dipping my brush in my wash cup and tapping it dry on a paper towel, but it seems like it still makes the paint way too runny. 2.) Where does everyone land on the primer? 1 coat? 2 coats? Until it's completely white? Or just enough that the paint holds to it? 3.) Did I mess up by gluing them to their bases before painting them? I may try to paint around their feet but I know it won't be pretty lmao. Thanks everyone, I know they're rough looking but I'm honestly loving the hobby and I personally can tell a big improvement with each new model I make. Hopefully a few more months of practice and I won't be causing all of you pros physical pain having to look at what I've done

I'm reletivly new to HH but I have a basic understanding of the game. I want to start playing World Eaters and work on a 3k list to aim for. Any feed back on the lists to either make them more functiona or lore friendly. So I have 2 lists similar that I like the look of but have no idea how it'll play out. Thanks guys. List 1: ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] ++ + HQ + Praetor, Legion [570pts]: Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Master of the Legion . . Command Squad, Legion: Melta Bombs . . . Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion: Heavy Bolter . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . Space Marine Chosen, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . Standard Bearer, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion: Heavy Bolter Apothecarion Detachment [140pts] . Apothecary, Legion: Exhortation of Butchery, Jump Pack, Power Armour, Power Sword . Apothecary, Legion: Exhortation of Butchery, Jump Pack, Power Armour, Power Sword The Red Butchers [400pts]: 4x Butcher Terminator, 4x Second Power Axe . Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod: Frag Assault Launchers . The Devoured: Chainfist, Second Power Axe Assault Squad, Legion , Compulsory [310pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: 4x Power Axe . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Fist . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades Assault Squad, Legion , Compulsory [310pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: 4x Power Axe . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Fist . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [185pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . Chainsword, Combat Blade or Chainaxe: Chainaxe . Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion . Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs . . Power Weapon: Power Axe Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [185pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . Chainsword, Combat Blade or Chainaxe: Chainaxe . Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion . Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs . . Power Weapon: Power Axe Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron, Legion [290pts]: Heavy Bolter, 2x Multi-melta, 6x Space Marine Sky Hunters . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Upgrade One Model to a Sky Hunter Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [195pts]: 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles, Battle Servitor Control, Ground-tracking Auguries, Twin-linked Lascannon Rite of War: Berserker Assault Typhon Heavy Siege Tank, Legion [415pts]: Armoured Ceramite ++ Total: [3,000pts] ++ List 2: **++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3,000pts] ++** **Praetor, Legion [570pts]:** Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade . **Master of the Legion** . . **Command Squad, Legion:** Melta Bombs . . . **Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion:** Heavy Bolter . . . **Space Marine Chosen, Legion:** Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . **Space Marine Chosen, Legion:** Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . **Space Marine Chosen, Legion:** Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . **Space Marine Chosen, Legion:** Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Axe . . . **Standard Bearer, Legion:** Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . **Scimitar Jetbike with Heavy Bolter, Legion:** Heavy Bolter **Apothecarion Detachment [125pts]** . **Apothecary, Legion:** Exhortation of Butchery, Jump Pack, Power Armour, Power Sword . **Apothecary, Legion:** Exhortation of Butchery, None (Infantry, Power Armour), Power Armour, Power Sword **Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [350pts]** . **Cortus Dreadnought** . . **Dreadnought Chainfist:** Graviton Gun . . **Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon:** Graviton Gun . **Cortus Dreadnought** . . **Dreadnought Chainfist:** Graviton Gun . . **Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon:** Graviton Gun **The Red Butchers [400pts]:** 4x Butcher Terminator, 4x Second Power Axe . **Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod:** Frag Assault Launchers . **The Devoured:** Chainfist x2 **Assault Squad, Legion , Compulsory [310pts]:** 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . **Additional Wargear:** 4x Power Axe . **Assault Sergeant, Legion:** Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Fist **Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [265pts]:** 19x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . **Additional Wargear:** Vexilla, Legion . **Tactical Sergeant, Legion:** Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist **Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [185pts]:** 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . **Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion** . **Tactical Sergeant, Legion:** Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs . . **Power Weapon:** Power Axe **Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [185pts]:** 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion . **Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion** . **Tactical Sergeant, Legion:** Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs . . **Power Weapon:** Power Axe **Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [195pts]:** 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy Missiles, Battle Servitor Control, Ground-tracking Auguries, Twin-linked Lascannon **Rite of War:** Berserker Assault **Typhon Heavy Siege Tank, Legion [415pts]:** Armoured Ceramite **++ Total: [3,000pts] ++**