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  1. Hi, just found out the neighbours play 40k and plan to have a few games in the yard in the sunshine. Obviously, I want to play a fun, but competitive list, so I finished painting up my assault squads and settled on a jump list. It's a fairly straightforward list, an incursion 4 way tourney, Necrons, Tau and some space marines, not sure which chapter. Just Incursion games, nothing special. My list has Captain with relic blade and jump pack Sanguinary priest with a jump pack Sanguinary guard and ancient A pair of assault squads A storm speeder Hammerstrike All told, with wargear comes to exactly 900 points. My question to the forum is thus: Assault bolter Inceptors, or Suppressors? The anti infantry fire of inceptors, plus their extra toughness and wound is attractive, but denying overwatch and D2 is pretty handy as well. The Hammerstrike is there to look good, and blow up tanks. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
  2. The Suppressor models in Shadowspear have drawn a rather mixed response instead of aesthetics. I think we need a thread for thoughts on reworking their bases for easier use and their aesthetics. The pros described for them have been that they're a nice mid-point between bulky Inceptors and the regular Tacticus marines. They provide a model for Primaris jump troops that are not heavyweight and they have finally given loyalists an autocannon variant (with an unusual role, to boot!) I don't think there's any denying that with some balance tweaks, Suppressors will be a very useful force owing to their mobility, heavy weaponry and special rules. Primaris jump troops with their own role, at fewer points than Inceptors is definitely welcome. They do however have a few things stacked against them. 1. Some players (myself included) are left wondering how those few tiny jet nozzles can lift the Astarte into the air at all, much less the long, bounding jumps promised by their unit description. 2. The models are quite busy, with a variety of extra stick-out bits to form grav-chute arrays, micro jump packs, ammunition belt feeds and a very, very long main weapon. This throws the models' proportions off and makes them appear cartoonish. This is not helped by the general soft curves and roundness of Primaris armour (in contrast to things like Iron armour). 3. Like the Inceptors models, the Suppressors seem posed without purpose. The sergeant appears to be hovering in mid-air despite their description calling for long leaps. The regular troops in the squad are posed as though they're being flung backwards due to their weapon recoil. 4. My biggest gripe with them are their bases and flying stems. They use the same base and flying stem system as Inceptors and I maintain that they are awful. My reasons are as follows: 4.1. The curved, transparent flying stems come in different lengths, making uniformity among models impossible. 4.2. The flying stems are designed to be glued onto the model (haphazardly). They do not insert into the model like flying vehicles. If you follow GW's instructions on their stands, you will end up with a bulky, double-height infantry model that does not break down into a smaller size for transportation. This is actually a step backwards from flying stems that can simply be inserted into a model and removed at will. This is especially difficult for transporting models because a stand system that breaks down consists of transporting a regular-sized infantry model, a thin stand and a flat base. An Inceptor or Suppressor built according to instructions stands twice the height of an infantry model and half of that height is a curved flight stand taking up space. 4.3. The great length of these stems makes them more prone to breaking or damage. The fact that they are curved by default introduces a slight structural weakness into the curve - the application of pressure on them will damage them more easily than shorter, straight stems. I will now follow with some suggestions and implementations of addressing the flying stand problem. 1. Some players have opted to stick their models onto scenery to give them the appearance of touching down or leaping off scenery. This helps with their posing problems and gives them a sturdier base. The models can also be magnetised to the terrain so that the implementation can be broken down for transport. 2. Some players simply stick their models to the base and skip the flying stand entirely. The main upside of this is you are now dealing with a simple, ground infantry unit for transport purposes. The downsides are that posing can still be awkward as the models were designed to have legs extended in the air. Also expect accusations of modelling for advantage, due to the shortness of this solution. Since Inceptors are Gravis based models, it is possible to do a lot of cutting and graft Inceptor bodies to Aggressor legs as well, if you can deal with the cost. 3. This creative solution for suppressors involves slicing a suppressor off at the waist and gluing it to an Aggressor body. Again, you might be accused of modelling for advantage and it's very expensive, but hey. The Photoshop mockup below also has a shortened autocannon barrel. Some people shorten the autocannon barrel to make the model appear more visually balanced and to make it easier to transport. Personally, I'm a fan of long-barrel autocannons so I'm happy to keep mine. 4. A variant of the above is chopping them off at the waist and sticking them on Phobos-pattern legs from say, a Reiver or Infiltrator kit. This would give you a leaner look than bulky Gravis and might be cheaper, since you can get away with using Easy-to-Build Reiver legs cheaply, compared to much pricier Gravis kits you'd be pretty much destroying. 5. My last solution is one I've used for my Inceptors. I don't have pictures, but it works as follows: 5.1. Very carefully drill a hole into the tip of the stem with a 0.5mm drill bit. 5.2. Fit a paperclip into the hole with super glue and leave part of it protruding as a pin. 5.3. Very carefully drill a 0.5mm hole into the model where the stem would normally attach. 5.4. Pin the model to the stem when in use. This system disassembles for transport and holds itself together without glue because gravity keeps the model impaled on the pin. If you want it to be permanent, you can simply use it as a conventional pin with superglue to strengthen the joint where the stem meets the model.
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