synapse Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 @ Sersi: thanks for the link, and nice terminator :D @ Skirax: hope so. ill try casting up a pair of legs today and then i start work on the arms and head Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2100246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 ive done another mould and tried again... http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2538.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2539.jpg ... to much better results. just a few airbubbles and some straggly mould lines, though nothing that minor GS and a file wont handle. job's a good(ish) one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2101477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 insane!! :drool: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2102015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 you call that insane: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2541-1.jpg hehe. ive got an assembly line going here. that should keep me going for a while :) ive finished the 2nd pose on the legs and will make a mould for them today/tomorrow (using the new techniques ive been taught :P) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I swear one day synapse :D one day you're gonna end up giving me a heart attack! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 and I swear, Sons of Horus, that that's not my intention ;) then again it is your fault my lovely death guard and world eaters got corrupted by chaos.... but that' sanother story :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 What do you use to make the casts? And where do you buy them from? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienerd Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 These look better by the minute!!! I envy you in so manyways. I don't mean to be pushy by this or snotty, but if you were to sell the basic truescale termie "kits", how much would you sell them for? Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 since theyre GW ip i dont think i can. im not sure though, as there are no GW-exclusive icons on the models (i made sure not to cast things like imperial eagles, crux terminuatus's and world eater symbols). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You still did use some GW components in the construction of the originals, and the terminator armour design is owned by GW just as much as the icons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2104765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 ok so here's the result of my past few days' work: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/Ter_13.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/Ter_14.jpg the mould and cast on the second pair of legs is done. a bit more of a dynamic running pose (yep, on a terminator :P). if time and resources permit ill try my hand at another pair of legs, more of a dug-in, firing pose. 1 problem though, until the smooth-on 305 arrives (and since i havent ordered any yet, that may take a while hehe) im stuck using the insta-set resin that is Alumilite natural, which is drying before i can get the cast done, so more casts will have to wait until that. i have a big army commission going through soon, and once thats done ill place a huge order on supplies - tools, plasticard, putty, resin, rubber etc and, if my GF lets me... the fabled pressure pot! lol the second negative on my first arm mould has been poured, and ill pour the first cast once thats dry. ill probably do 3 sets of terminator arms too, for pose varieties, all with normal gauntlets. ill be able to use normal GW plastic power fists - just clip off the resin forearm and glue on the plastic fist. i like that they will appear smaller, i prefer them like that. watch this space... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2108715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 What do you use to make the casts? And where do you buy them from? :rolleyes: I quote for a reason. please answer me, I hate having to buy CSM sets just to convert them to pre-heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 rubber for the moulds and resin for the casts. so far ive used Alumilite for both (alumilite natural resin), but ive found that the resin is drying too quickly. because of this ive decided to try a different resin - wither smooth-on 305 or alumilite white, both of which have longer curing times (smetimes the alumilite natural dries in the cup halfway through pouring it). hope that helps arms ready... http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2552.jpg i know a lot of people will complain that the arms appear too short... (and while they are longer than they appear in the picture) i say good! i like the artwork where marine heads and arms appear tiny in their armour, as it further reinforces the impression of size and seems to indicate that the legs and chest are the parts of the body most affected by the bone-growth implant. i still need to add weapons (chain halberd and combi bolter), cast-guiter string to the back of the arms, some accessories (lysander-like cloaks and some WE bling) and hes ready for painting :rolleyes: though ill wait until the whole 5-man unit is done before starting painting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgeman Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 What sort of sprue do you use in your moulds, if any? By which I mean, how do you construct the sprue that you use; it's the one thing I haven't quite got right with my own moulds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 sometimes i use bits of plastic sprue, plasticard, plastecene or none at all, and i just carve it out of the rubber once irts set (though i dont suggest the last two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgeman Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Ahh, okay, cheers for that. I'll have to give carving out the channels a try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I agree with you on the marine bone growth stuff but the arms are out of porportion, even for a termie. and the head could use a little more room to move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 I agree with you on the marine bone growth stuff but the arms are out of porportion as always with marines i think its down to personal taste. some pieces of artwork have them looking exactly like humans (basically the way the models are), while others have their proportions so extreme, particularly with terminators (Mr Paul Dainton, im looking at you :wallbash:) ) that they dont even look as though they can touch hands across their chest. i tend to go for the latter. having said that, that terminator is exactly the same height to the top of the head as one of my normal marines, so at least the guy in the armour isnt any bigger than he should be, if you get what i mean. all the extra height is solely from the power plant above the armour and, in some cases, the pose (running models tend to appear a lot taller than ones standing legs akimbo and the neck joint (or collar or gorget or whatever its called) is from a plastic terminator, as is the head Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIGIL_ Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 :P AMAZING world eaters are my favourite pre heresy legion along with the emperors children. Just a suggestion but you should try make some horus heresy characters like pre heresy Khârn, Skaal from battle of the abyss and so on. Really amazing work man :tu: keep it up... Rigil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mike Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Yeah, most of Games Workshop's proportions make no sense. There's no way most terminators in the pictures will work, unless you've got 6ft arms. But nice conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Your arms will always be down to the middle of your Thighs when standing. The arms may have to be a little longer, maybe 2mm. The gorget looks to small here as it is upsized armour. The gorget should really be bigger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2109726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Your arms will always be down to the middle of your Thighs when standing. The arms may have to be a little longer, maybe 2mm. as i said before, im basing this on the artwork where the arms appear smaller (though i do admit they were attached too high in that pic. see the one below for better proportions and a better scale comparison and current terminator armour. and besides - stand up, your clenched fists will fall just below your groin, which when you consider the armour marines have in that region means theyre pretty flush with the codpiece, which i made sure was the case in the updated version. and extending the arms wouldnt make much sense as the arms of the marine inside the armour are the same length as those of a power armoured marine ;) The gorget looks to small here as it is upsized armour. The gorget should really be bigger. this model doesnt have a gorget. afaik a gorget is a neck guard. the only terminator i made with a gorget is the chaplain, which is on the first page (i think) normal terminators dont hae a neck guard either, as its pretty much impossible because the helmet protrudes from the chest too far. update here's the scale pic someone requested, as well as a sneak peak of the contemporary armour design (well, just a shoulder pad really :)) http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2555.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2111291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakes Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 WOW! your are a modeling god! lol, now I have to make some true scales! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2111577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 ok, enough of boring resin parts... here's some more boring resin parts :P http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM2593.jpg well, the start of the actual unit, that is. i converted the first and third pairs of legs from extra casts, to make sure every pair of legs is different and, ironically enough, i ahve to say that theyre my fave so far. the first pair is pretty upright, indicating a more regal pose, so i might use those for the sarge. #2, #4 and #5 are more combatty pose, while #3, standing on something (a rock or fallen foe maybe ;) seem more 'victorius'... LOL! all these fancy words to describe bits of resin, seems odd! though its funny how the pose of legs can give ideas as to the final pose of the model. this is my fave part of converting/model building, looking at the parts, and figuring out how to build them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2124947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Looking good as ever mate! Nice job on the Mk VI guy as well, haven't seen him before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/130525-pre-heresy-truescale-worldeaters/page/16/#findComment-2125046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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