Imperialis_Dominatus Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The only real problem with all this is that the Tau don't have any real readily available source for a sudden surge of might which means they'd almost certainly be (more) screwed. And this is a problem... how? Ironfather0 Posted Today, 03:54 PM its said that ferrus mannus will return at the darkest moment to lead mankind. As of right now he's training in an "unearthly paradise" Ferrus Manus had his head cut off. Well, so then he will return with his head missing... Or, you know, whatever mystical forces that be might find a way to overcome that death thing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1801786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Imperialis_Dominatus Posted Today, 05:49 PM Or, you know, whatever mystical forces that be might find a way to overcome that death thing... GW Superglue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1801814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Nope. Poor quality stuff won't work. Gorilla Glue makes superglue now though. That might do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1801837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 He was primarch of the Iron Hands, chances are he just downloaded his brain in to a memory stick, so losing his head isn't really a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1801905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angronn Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Myths are just ways to describe the indescribable truth. I think that the apotheosis of humanity as a fully psychic race will have real implications for the real-space/warp-space boundaries, leading to the fantastic myths coming to fruition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1801985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 He was primarch of the Iron Hands, chances are he just downloaded his brain in to a memory stick, so losing his head isn't really a problem. I just don't want to imagine where could the plug-in possibly be in Manus' body... ;) :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1803341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I just wanna get one thing straight about the Space Pups. Russ and the 13th company have been roaming around in the Warp for a long time now haven't they? Leman Russ = Daemon Prince. Leman Russ returns and takes control of the Space Wolves yet again Space Wolves now = Excommunicate Traitorus (Let's face it, they're pretty much a bunch of mutants anyway :angry:) As for the whole final times thing, on the surface it just looks like a stock end of the world myth. I'm looking forward to the Global Event :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1803831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 As for the whole final times thing, on the surface it just looks like a stock end of the world myth. I'm looking forward to the Global Event :rolleyes: I sincerily wouldn't want to be present... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I just wanna get one thing straight about the Space Pups. Russ and the 13th company have been roaming around in the Warp for a long time now haven't they? Leman Russ = Daemon Prince. Leman Russ returns and takes control of the Space Wolves yet again Space Wolves now = Excommunicate Traitorus (Let's face it, they're pretty much a bunch of mutants anyway :() As for the whole final times thing, on the surface it just looks like a stock end of the world myth. I'm looking forward to the Global Event :wacko: not to start a SWvsDA thing, but multiple sources cite the SW at being highly immune to the effetcs of Chaos due to the mutated nature of the Canis Helix. this is why the 13th Company might have mutated Wulfen packs, but are still loyal to the Emperor's dream. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 not to start a SWvsDA thing, but multiple sources cite the SW at being highly immune to the effetcs of Chaos due to the mutated nature of the Canis Helix. this is why the 13th Company might have mutated Wulfen packs, but are still loyal to the Emperor's dream. wolf lord kieran That's it, Honour Duel :( (TBH I'm more Fallen than Dark) TBH though I reckon no matter how highly immune you think you are 10,000 years of exposure to the warp is gonna effect you somehow. At the end of it all every race has it's own End Times Myth. Hell even the irreligious Tau believe that the loss of the ethereal caste will set them back to how they were before their arrival. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 fallen... dark...all the same in my book. dress wearing looney traitors. :) i thought that 10,000 years in the Eye would play hell with them also, but it's said that time flows differently in the Eye, making 1 hour last a year or 50 years last a minute...so it is hard to state just how long they are in the warp. by our clocks 10, 000 years, but to them maybe just a few years, maybe forever. while the Canis Helix can protect the bodies of the 13th Company for the warp's touch, their faith in Russ and the Emperor (as a man worth following, a dream worth fighting for. not a diety) protects them souls. and they are effected by the warp to a degree. thats why the wulfen arent complete animals (like the wulfen present on fenris), but rather marines bearing the curse of the wulfen. they still fight in packs, unlike our wulfen, and many wolf lords and rune priests affected still wage war with their pre wulfen talents. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Shrike Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 No one's mentioned Cipher yet... something big is supposed to happen when he returns the sword to Mr. Big... I dunno... My cynical mind keeps telling me that when GW admits that it's going to kick the bucket they'll release a "Wolftime/final battle/etc" campaign. And my take on Warhammer 50K is that it won't happen. Anyone else notice that the 5th ed timeline ends at 999.m40? And that the events get worse as they get closer to 000.m50? edit: read above 999.m41 and 000.m42 :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 from what i remember of cypher, he is supposed to carry (not wield) the Lion's sword, and if he can present it to the emperor the fallen will be forgiven of their crimes. others state the sword is the black sword of the lion, and cypher will use it see slay the emperor and free him from the golden throne. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Shrike Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ^^ That's exactly what I mean. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1804710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Anyone else notice that the 5th ed timeline ends at 999.m40? And that the events get worse as they get closer to 000.m50? Nothing that bad can happen as the Ciaphas Cain journals are published for members of the Inquisition in the early years of the 51st millenium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1805926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kael Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Don't forget about Sanguinius. There's fluff about him being "reborn" and all that goodness. How and Where????!!!!!??????!?!?!?!?!?! Not trying to be rude but I would like to know as well. :P Captain Kael :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1806733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachi n'Ral Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Don't forget about Sanguinius. There's fluff about him being "reborn" and all that goodness. How and Where????!!!!!??????!?!?!?!?!?! Not trying to be rude but I would like to know as well. ^_^ Captain Kael 3rd (or could be 2nd, can't remember) BA Codex (or Angels of Death Codex if it's 2nd), there's a short story about an inquisitor who is worried about his upcoming trip to Baal because of the reputation of the Blood Angels and has a dream/vision about an aspirant who comes out of his incubation chamber reborn as Sanguinius and the inquisitor is filled with joy and all that good stuff because of the vision. Probably the basis for Swallow's Deus books. And if you want to cite Swallow as a reference that's what the Deus books are about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1807097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameseeker574 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 In regards to Sanguinius, I have to say(although I'm a bit biased) that if any of the dead primarchs came back It would probably be him. Think about, when he died he left a curse that makes marines go bonkers and rip peoples arms off, Its commonly accepted that the black rage is a result of his psyhsic agony right before he died, and that the red thirst is the geneseed defect. Also with all of the grail iconography Sanguinus is pretty much 40k's version of Jesus, and well we all know what some people claim that he did. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1807172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurni Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 To touch on the status of Russ and the Wolves I doubt they would be affected by the Warp. In the mythos they would have been shielded by the power of the Emperor. If he can project the Astronomicon into the Warp I think he can watch out for Russ and his boys. Especially since they were his enforcers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1807220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Ultramar Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I don't think the 13th Co are Chaos Marines given as how in the SW books they are still ripping Chaos a new one. Also I doubt you would be corrupted as Russ given the absolute, total, overwhelming rage he must had been feeling at the Chaos primarchs would probably prevent him from going over to their side. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Also I doubt you would be corrupted as Russ given the absolute, total, overwhelming rage he must had been feeling at the Chaos primarchs would probably prevent him from going over to their side. C'mon, Russ is pretty much just Angron with fur. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hardly, Russ is about noble combat, whereas Angron is all about mindless bloodlust, very different imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hardly, Russ is about noble combat, whereas Angron is all about mindless bloodlust, very different imo. I think Magnus the Red might disagree with you there. I doubt there was anything noble about the fall of Prospero. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ah, but in Russ' mind at least, there was, he firmly believed he was doing the right thing. Besides, I never said he didn't have flaws, just that he isn't all that much like Angron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oor_Mate_vlad Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Actually if you have a wee think about it Angron is about noble combat too, it's just his idea of noble combat is different and gorier than Russ' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153303-final-battle-real-or-myth/page/2/#findComment-1808710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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