X-Slash-X Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 While any progress is good in my opinion, I think it's coming across as a bit too chunky and/or awkward. Maybe take a look at the Pedro Kantor model's Storm Bolter, as it is quite small, and works well with the model. While the cables should bulk up the arm a bit, I think the magnetised gun attachment would still look a bit flimsy. I hope I don't sound too selfish or ungrateful, but perhaps having both arms magnetised would be better? I'm willing to pay more, should it be required, and as I stated earlier, time is not an issue with me. What do you think, brother? If you have a plan to make the current idea work, by all means. I'm just offering my opinion, uneducated as it is.... X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, we'll wait and see what this brings first, if you don't like it I can always make two arms. The attachment will thicker in the end, I needed the size of the bolter on the arm to work out the dimensions of the mechanical parts. This bolter is in fact about as big as the Grey knight version. But as they have a big attachment + ammo belt, it looks less awkward. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Good to hear it, Brother. I have the utmost faith in you. If I didn't, I wouldn't have bothered commissioning you. On a side note. You know how I requested a specific Shoulder for the pointing arm? I'd like you to make the upper rim even bigger. I've been working on some models of my own, and have decided to use larger shoulders as a theme for veterans. I'll try and take some images soon; my new PC doesn't seem to like my camera, or my printer, or many other things. Who would have thought that XP 64bit wouldn't be compatible with a large chunk of software? X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Who would have thought that XP 64bit wouldn't be compatible with a large chunk of software? Well, who would expect anything from microsoft to work as it should? :( Anyway, I'll await the pictures to see what you mean exactly before doing anything on the pads. I had an idea about the shoulder design I'm a-wanting to work out as well, but that'll wait until the rest of him is in a more finished state. The sword parts will be done tomorrow if I'm lucky (mate of mine who was going to do it was going to do it last week - No time. Today - Forgot the plastic plates.... :) ) And as last remark: Small progress which did cost quite a lot of time, I hate how you can be busy for an hour and not see real progress… When I made the bionic foot, I made the whole leg a tad longer than the other. Which in turn made him walk with a limp. To compensate for this I gave his left foot an extra bottom layer and to make him look a tad more massive, I added a front plate to his foot. I always think it looks a tad better this way. It’s something from an old picture of a captain or something. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7758.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7760.jpg Before I get the “Is that a giant plate on your powerfist or is he just happy to see me?” jokes ; Yes, it is a giant plate. No he’s not happy to see you. I added wires between fist and shoulder, same idea as with the leg, bionics incognito. More wires and cables are still to be added. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7764.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7766.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7761.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7762.jpg Why it is there? Remember this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7705.jpg This was kindly vetoed by most of you and, most importantly by X-slash-X. The plate was meant to fill op the part I filed away, after some shaping it should look better: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7778.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7777.jpg As you can see I cut out a small rectangle. I wanted to make part of the powerfist open to show some worky bits and have cables coming out of it. But when I tried to pry open the cut out rectangle, I got some sort of lid. I like the way it looks, especially if I run a few cables from it to under the shoulderpad. But before I do this I should at least ask my kindly client -_- So X-lash-X, should I get on with this or go for the more worky bits approach? Maybe I should've taken a front view of the fist with the lid thingy... oh well, to late now. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hey, I'm digging the added plate on the foot. It does look good, I'll admit. As for the Fist, I like how you think, Brother. I say go for it, as your ideas tend to bear fruit most of the time. I can't see the opening all that well, but I have faith in you. Even though you're adamant about the Storm Bolter or Plasma Pistol hand, I've been thinking of ideas for alternatives. I still like the direction you're going, but it can't hurt to brainstorm, true? X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Any alternative is fine with me, I just want to see whether the whole magnitised weapon mount will work in this way. Camera working yet? Else you can try and directly inseting the flash disk that's in the cam. Works for me. I'll put some better pictures of the opening up tonight (or tomorrow morning) I only though about better pictures when I was reviewing them on posting. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I just received my other computer back from the technician (more issues. I'd like to think I can fix anything PC related, but when the parts themselves are busted, there's not much I can do), so I now have a conduit for getting photos from camera to PC. At this present moment my entire 40k collection is set up at my other residence (I'm between houses at the moment), so I'll get some photos for you during the weekend when I go there. This might actually get me off my arse and post my newer, improved army WIP. I'll link you the in the thread when I make it. Cheers, X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Some better pictures of the lid thingy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7781.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7782.jpg And on mister marine http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7784.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7787.jpg And the idea explained, poorly. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/7784-1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/7787-7.png Someone also had the idea of having some sort of auspex/targeting scope intergrated in the fist. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CplHicks Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 THis is looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeffWolf Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 spectacular! love the background you're inserting into this model - consider it tagged. i hope you;re a bloody good painter, cos a conversion this good deserves it! Deff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 Haha, I'm not gonna paint it, X-slash-X will. I'm making this for him :P Anyway, the sword came back from the mill. Sadly we underestimated the width of the point (which turned out to be 0,75mm) and the parts are not usable at this point. I'll refine the design to have it work with the mill. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7797.jpg Beautifull to see it while the machine is working. I'm a bit disappointed by the width as I was hoping to engrave all my upcoming models. Luckily I've got more tricks up my sleave. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Hey, Despite not being the right size, the milled swords look nice. Here's to hoping the next batch are correct. You mentioned that someone suggested some kind of auspex in the fist. I think this might look nice. Go ahead with whatever you think would be best. I managed to take a few pics of my models. I've uploaded an example of what I've doing with my Sternguards' shoulder pads. It's not that clear, but I haven't got access to photoshop at the moment (it's on my other PC). Hopefully this will give you an idea of what you could do to my Captain: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/X-Slash-X/hflamer.jpg Thanks again, X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/X-Slash-X/hflamer.jpg Hmm, nice design, can I nick that? Got stuck on building because I was busy doing my own brass etchings :( It’s starting to work, and part of the sword might be made that way now. As well as possible details for the legs/arms. Just need to perfect it first. I was bothered with the wrist mounted bolter and decided against magnetising the bolter on a mount. The arm is now magnetised to the torso and I’ll fix the arm up if needed. I dressed him up as warsmith to see how he’s looking at this point: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7938.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7932.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7933.jpg And as I was bothered with the bolter and was thinking about alternatives, this caught my fancy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7940.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7939.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7946.jpg I like it, although it's more of a tech priest thing... remember that this is only a mock up. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 What if you put an ammo hopper on the top center of the backpack, then mounted the storm bolter there, positioned to look like it follows his head movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Was my idea at first, but X-slash-X has another which we shall see soon. I think that after this one is done I'm going to make a warsmith with this bolter arm. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman kw Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 that model looks fan-freaking-tastic. fair play, can't wait to see the sword fininshed (i love buster swoards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Its looking real sharp ;) . But I am not a fan of the servo mounted storm bolter, I think it might look good if you used a grey knight, orpedro style mount on his left hand, and keep the pointy finger :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 I started with a wrist-mounted bolter, but it was disagreeable with me. Maybe if I make one from normal bolt pisols… At this point, I just looked away and got work done on the powerfist: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7949.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7950.jpg The ribbing insert is an idea, I want to lower a plasma coil in the fist but I found that raised also look funky. Could be used for a powerfist/plasmapistol combi weapon later on. And with a tad more cables: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7952.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7954.jpg Which look like this on the model: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7956.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7957.jpg I did some other style double bolters just to try and get a feel of what might look good: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7947.jpg Oh, and I was working on brass etching, and one of the earlier etches worked pretty well and is now part of his foot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_7948.jpg Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Bolter variants: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8032.jpg One is a double pistol, the other and shortened and heightened bolter. The straight clip bolter is there for size comparison. I didn’t have any good bolters anymore, after GW renewed the tactical squads, the first bunch of frames were badly aligned, in my case this means (among other things) misaligned bolters. Nothing that can’t be saved with a little filing and carding. But that is the reason the bolter variant doesn’t have the upright aiming thingy, will be added again though. Came up with a different ammo clip design, a round one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8035.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8036.jpg I think it conveys the rapid fire feel a bit better. Alternatively I can lengthen the clip a bit (using a bolter clip for example) making it look more like a SMG. But I like the drum clip better. Also did some cabling for the shoulder of the powerfist, pretty straightforward, drill a hole, add some wire, cut of at the right length. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8038.jpg As I wanted the fist to look as if it’s really attached and not a take of thingy, I cut a slot around the magnet for the cables to fall in. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8037.jpg This should make it look more like a permanent weapon. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8039.jpg C&C? Questions? Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Looking good, brother. Sorry for the lack of replies to your updates. I've been visiting this thread often, but I havn't had too much time to post. I've also been keeping an eye on the other threads you have going on different forums. I'm really liking the last bolter (heightened), as it looks somewhere in between a pistol and rifle. How would you feel about that model with box or belt-fed ammunition? I think the bulk of the drum you have feels right, do you think it would look good with the ammo-feed from this: Choas Lord Combi Bolter Also, kudos to you for making the cables look permenant, even though the arm is magnetic. I always screw it up when I try! Thanks again, X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Well, if you really like an ammo feed I can make one. I just never saw the added value of loose strands of ammo everywhere. Most guns have a clip for safety and function reasons. I have some storm bolter clips/boxes I can adapt. Sword is in the making by the way, I finished the (hopefully) working vector plot and this or next week the thing will be milled. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okidus Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 what are you using for that PF cabling? this is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetacondries Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Have to say he is looking considerably awseome. Look forward to the finished product <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I've given it some more thought, and I now have to agree with you. It seems impractical to have belt-fed sidearms. Perhaps for something large, such as a heavy bolter or assault cannon, but a pistol needs something smaller and less likely to jam. I'd say stick with a Storm Bolter box. Looking forward to the sword. Once I see what your're working with, I may be able to draw up some designs for the edging, if it needs it. X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 The powerfist cabling is guitar wire and 0,1 mm copper wire. I use some modelling prings instad of guitar wire sometimes as well. I'll try to get the bolt pistol up tonight with the different ammo boxes. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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