Brother_Beork Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Bolter with square (termy) ammo drum: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8040.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8044.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8046.jpg and with round: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8047.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8049.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8050.jpg Couldn't find proper arms to hold the gun, will have to look into that tonight so I can make pictures on the model itself. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Been watching this quietly for a while and what it's evolved to is pretty cool ;) The bolt pistol variants though... no taking my fancy. How about something like a storm bolter but with the ammo clip from them Sternguard bolters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 X-slash-X wants a vertical bolter, so you should take it up with him :) I actually like these variants, they have a high fire rate feel for me. Bit like a submachine gun (I must have played to many video games...) Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I'm really liking the first Storm/Bolter/Pistol, I think the Termi Drum looks great under it. As you mentioned, it looks like it has a heightened rate of fire, which it perfect for a Storm Bolter, but it's in a more single-hand-friendly form, which works great for a Bolt Pistol. Looking forward to a full-model preview. X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I get the idea of a single-handed rapid-firing gun, though the idea of the two barrels being in a vertical position is still a slight niggle with me. Hence why I suggested a storm bolter since the barrels are side-by-side. You could try a bolt pistol with 2 side-by-side barrels (might have to be small mind you) with that square ammo clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 After a too busy weekend, the captain finally took a walk with his gun: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8060.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8063.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8064.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8062.jpg I'm not to happy with him like this, I really like the weapon, but I have a huge sword somewhere that should be handled with two hands... Oh well, as long as you like it X-slash-X ;) I also had the happy task of preparing the files and stuff for the milling machine, which was next to great fun, pretty boring. Computer assisted design is not my thing apparently. But the results are quite rewarding, and proof of concept is delivered. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8056.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8068.jpg The cog pattern parts are held to the plastic by a layer of 0,05mm. You can almost press them out, as I did with the sword parts. This is going to be great with the greave templates I made, just need to tweak them a bit and I can mill out perfectly symmetrical custom greave types in just about any impossible shape :P. I hope to have more on the sword tomorrow. Also adding tubes to the fist shoulder, has to be done one at the time so I can make sure everything fits so it takes a while... Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 true awseomeness it really is. i love the double pistol and as far as huge swords that need to go somewhere... you have a big fist that could be holding somthing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 You've executed the pistol perfectly, brother! I'm loving the look of it. As you stated earlier, the sword does indeed look like it needs to be held with both hands. What would you suggest that's not too extreme? I'm thinking that making both arms magnetic would help. That way we could swap the Fist/Pistol with two different arms for the Sword configuration. Do you think that the Sword & Pointing arms would be suitable, or are you of the mind to have him holding the sword with both arms? What say you? X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Immortal Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 i've never got why you can't hold something in a powerfist? its a powerFIST, fists hold things... sure it may crush a conventional sword, but it might have a reinforced handle? everything about this mini makes me drool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 i've never got why you can't hold something in a powerfist? its a powerFIST, fists hold things... sure it may crush a conventional sword, but it might have a reinforced handle? everything about this mini makes me drool big fists hold big swords? :huh: Seeing as his whole left side looks bionic, I'm sure any discussion about "weight" or lifting power is mute. this is an awesome project so far though. Always love to see custom things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamicspartan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Have to say that I love. I extremely like the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 first off, Sorry for the late replies (again) I've been busy with a lot (work, taxes, flu (not of the mexican variaty). I am even forced to sell of some of my collection, shame we don't have a market place here, I've got a few limited models people would like. anyway, sword blade is done-ish, arms is being made, photos somewhere between this and next week depending on how the new computer (yes, had to get a new one old one is kind of dying) cooperates. I've got acces to a laptop, but it has a protecteed netwerk thingy and won't swallow usb from unknow sources... So have patience a bit longer On to replying i love the double pistol and as far as huge swords that need to go somewhere... you have a big fist that could be holding somthing... i've never got why you can't hold something in a powerfist? its a powerFIST, fists hold things... sure it may crush a conventional sword, but it might have a reinforced handle? Because you can't hold anything once the matter disruption field goes on, meaning the fist won't be of use untill the fist is empty. But also and mainly, because the fist won't hold the sword. You've executed the pistol perfectly, brother! I'm loving the look of it.As you stated earlier, the sword does indeed look like it needs to be held with both hands. What would you suggest that's not too extreme? I'm thinking that making both arms magnetic would help. That way we could swap the Fist/Pistol with two different arms for the Sword configuration. Do you think that the Sword & Pointing arms would be suitable, or are you of the mind to have him holding the sword with both arms? What say you? Both arms are already magnetic :P But with only a pointing arm, there's no WYSIWYG bolter/pistol... I'm still a-thinking. With the current pose he won't look good golding the sword in two hands, in my opinion, though you are boss. Glad you like the pistol though, any change you got some ideas for the more ornamental armour plates on the side of the pistol? (not to intricate please, my etching skills aren't that god yet) Else they will become more or less standard big fists hold big swords? :rolleyes: Seeing as his whole left side looks bionic, I'm sure any discussion about "weight" or lifting power is mute. This is about the best point made about the sword being held in one arm. But it would still be unwieldy due to the large size and the single wrist joint that steers it. Wait, powerfists don't even have wrist joints, maing it useless in sword fighting (believe me, you use your wrists a lot). And, (very important, people seem to ignore this) it will be either the sword or the fist. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 As I've stated before, Brother. Time is not much of an issue for me. I'm in the process of designing another Captain to lead my guys for the moment anyway, as I'm not willing to paint this one until I improve my skills with the brush. And with the WYSIWYG for the Bolt Pistol, I'd say it isn't really a problem if you use the pointing arm. Almost every HW entry in the Space Marine & Space Wolf codecii have a Bolt Pistol as part of their standard weaponry, meaning unless I pay points for say, a Combi or Plasma Pistol, no one can say he doesn't have his Bolt Pistol. At this point he will represent either Ragnar (For C:SW), or Pedro (for C:SM). From what I can tell, Pedro is covered with the Fist and Dual-Barrelled Pistol. For Ragnar, I think the massive Sword will represent a Frost Blade pretty well, and as stated above, the Pistol isn't too much of a problem. Failing that, I guess you could just give him a holster on his hip, which is what many of my Marines have anyway. For the ornamental plates, I'd say just have a look at the Space Wolf sprues, specifically the Bolt and Plasma Pistols. The designs are not too fancy, pretty much just a bit of edging with a curl at either end. The same could be applied to the crossguard of the Sword, if it would fit. It's up to you, really, and how intricate you want to go. I also wanted to ask you about the cloak; How will you be making it? I'm asking more for my own needs, as I can't seem to find any decent information on making them. I plan to have my stand-in Captain/Wolf Lord with one, and perhaps my new Librarian/Rune Priest. Thanks again, X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 I was planning to roll out a 1-2mm slab of GS or other epoxy putty, cut out the shape, wait until it is nearly hard, shape the folds, stick to model. When dry you can add some details and reshape the folds. Never done it before, but should work :ph34r: Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Updatish, I am having trouble getting the camera to cooperate with the new computer, sometimes it uploads, sometimes it doesn't. Sword, you need to choose between pommels, or thinks of another one. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8129.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/Beork008.jpg Work on the sword arm, I cut apart two arms, one for the arm pieces and one for the elbow guard. The arm pieces were hollowed out 2mm deep to make a cosy hole for the cabling. There is a hand now too, but having trouble with the bloody cam. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/Beork001.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/Beork004.jpg Start of a backpack, I've also added cabling and stuff since then, but the pictures won't be found somehow, I have yet to try it on another computer. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/Beork034.jpg Start with cabling the shoulder. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/Beork036.jpg I am hoping to get the camera to like my computer fast or at least try and use another computer somehow. Wait for updates. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Epic mate. Truly epic work keep it up cant wait to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The cog pattern parts are held to the plastic by a layer of 0,05mm. You can almost press them out, as I did with the sword parts. This is going to be great with the greave templates I made, just need to tweak them a bit and I can mill out perfectly symmetrical custom greave types in just about any impossible shape ;). I'm loving this build process, and it's really ineresting to follow a comission piece like this through from start to finish including the client feedback. Sorry if this is an obvious question, but is this machining/milling process something that's commercially available in the scales that you'd need for converting miniatures, or is it something that's only feasible if you know somebody with the kit? I've tried searching for info but I'm finding it hard. Marek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 There are commercial machining companies, at least in the US and Germany that I know off. Most do work on resin (rapid prototyping) or metals (etching and milling). But there are some that do anything you want for a price. I'm also a lurker on some real scifi modelling boards like fichtenfoo and they sometimes design detail or hard to make pieces in 3d or cad to be prototyped or etched. If you google for custom machining or etching you come a long way, well, I did. It helps having a friend working in a locksmiths shop though. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 What sort of plasticard and cable is that? Can you link to where you bought it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 Cable is guitar wire, got it from a (now former) collegue who played acoustic furiously and went through a set of wire in two months or so (I have a large stock now :o) The plasticard is evergreen plastic sheet. Google on Evergreen or Plastruct (competitor) and shop and you'll find one or two on-line shops. I get mine a my local modelshop. Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TH0R3 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Looks good, but i think the model is in need of a thigh extension?( if you know what I mean :P ) maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Slash-X Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Sorry about the late reply, Brother. I've been away for a week visiting the in-laws, who live in the stone-age when it comes to technology and the internet. I'm liking the progress on all the items you've shown. The backpack is quite brilliant, actually. In terms of the sword's pommel, I was actually thinking if something a little more basic. While I like the ideas you have, especially the Fist icon, I'd like something more akin to the bottom of the SM Command Squad Banner Pole. What do you think? Oh, and before I forget. Is it possible for you to ship the final product with the head detached or magnetized? I was thinking of painting up a helmetless head as well. Tell me how you feel. Thanks again X-Slash-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Backpack is undergoing surgery to get more beefy and more in line with the figure in general. I've also been hitting the camera and PC with a giant virtual hammer to get them to work and it appears its working. Pictures somewhere this week. I wasn't planning on attaching the head at all, currently its got a giant pin sticking out of the neck. I can look for a magnet to fit in, but with the magnets in the arms it might not work that well, We'll see. For a helmet less head, try something half bionic or similar. Would look great if the right side of the face is mutilated to tie in the rest of the right side bionics. The pommel will be more basic if you wish. I'd go for a square or hexagonal butt to emphasise brutality. Also, might have to make it a bit longer as a visual counterweight for the gigantic sword. I choose the fist and crux icons as they tie in the sword a bit with the whole 40K universe, not that it really needs it IMO. Guns is good as finished as well, except for decoration, speaking of which, I've also been practising the decorative SW like bands and it should work. It does give everything a more Chaos feel. I might redo the rims of the armour a bit to match, if you don't mind that is. And how I feel? Like #$%&, been sick (again, still, whatever) all my facial cavities have filled up with mucus and my head feels like snotlings are trying to breakout from within with large mallets. Other than that everything is going fine :)) Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Parts together: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Black%20Hands%20Captain/100_8188.jpg Bolter arm needs detail (wires), bolter needs decoration and shooty holes. Legs still need a logo, but my etchings all failed so I'll try something else if the next batch fails also. Torso still needs details, I was thinking about cabling and maybe another vent or something. Cloak still needs to be made. Backpack needs some small sculpting to hide faults. Swords needs a butt/pommel, sword arm an hand, sword some decoration on the cross Powefist needs to be cleaned up and will get a rim like this one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/brother_beork/Commissions/Bits%20and%20Pieces/100_8190.jpg Oh and shoulderpads, I still need to modify the forgeworld pads. That should sum the work up right? Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messanger of Death Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 The progress from start to what you have now is really insightful on how simple changes with wires and thing plasticard can make an awesome miniatures. Be great inspiration for anyone creating an Iron Hands or Iron Warriors army. Looking forward to the finish product (both with and without paint). Messanger N.B. X-Slash-C would it be possible for you to post up a picture or two of your paint scheme? I'm curious as to what sort of colour scheme you will be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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