Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Painting isn't tedious, it's just... I'm no where as near as good at painting as I am at converting :tu: With the Dawn of War intro scene guy, I'd reccomend something slightly larger than a back banner. Maybe more than slightly larger... the pole might be a toothpick and a third tall, with the banner likewise (lengthwise). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2548969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I like the design sketch. Much better than the one you used to have on that banner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2549012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Alrighty guys. Thanks for the responses. What do you think about the hair? Thanks Dark Apostle for the tip, I'll see if I can work it out. I haven't really been working on bolts much though. I think the design sketch has a bit more material to it. Hopefully I'll start painting that tonight, or drawing it on to the plasticard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2549015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 So I've started work on the real banner. I started around 1AM...not very smart, my productivity is very low ;) I couldn't understand why the "Black Fists" looked so lame and boring. Then I remembered to add the banner thing :P The fist is a bit squished, but I'm not sure theres much I can do about that. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1177.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2549236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Looks great so far, keep up the good work :P . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2549240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 So I started painting a bit. I like the Eagle and Abregado. Now I just need to find some script for Black Fist too. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1204.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2551353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 by the looks of it you could probably get away with drawing the banner/filling it in with a fine liner. It would make it easier to keep it symetrical. Symetry is the key, especially with Imperial Eagle, which is a great start, but is abit uneven. Keep it up, take it slow, and let the good times roll! DH Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2551387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hmm, does look a bit longer on the (photo) left side doesn't it...drat. I'll work on that. I'd blame the curve of the banner...but I know its not that :P I'm thinking about shuffling around ALL my marines, to different squads, and put in a bunch of the older armors. I don't really like I-III, but IV-VI are to my liking. And Captain-Wolverine has definitely showed me what I like :mellow: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/mkIV-4.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/large/mkv-11.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/mkVI-2.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/comup.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/phobos-bolters.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/rsvanvets.jpg This set for basically just the legs... http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/large/comup.jpg ........I'm hoping for the lottery... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2551431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Looks great so far, keep up the good work ^_^ . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2551543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 So...I ran into a problem while trying to cut out the armor detail. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1213.jpg But fixed it with some plastic glue. Put some glue on that! http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1214.jpg And whazam. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1215.jpg Yikes! not using templates! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2552439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Maybe no templates but so far it looks great i think, keep up the good work :D . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2552479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 What tool do you use for cutting? I got myself some plasticard and have started to try and use it, but I find it kinda hard to cut. - Natanael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2552713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Thanks Mick. I can always Count on you to leave a good word B) Natanael, I just use a pencil to make my marks to cut on. Then I get a metal ruler (to keep the cuts straight) and an xacto knife. I use a meta ruler because I can put the blade up against it an not have to worry about cutting up the ruler. I havent figured out circles yet. That'll be a later project (predator turret hole) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2552856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Great looking army! and congrats on your eagle scout! as for circles, maybe a use a drill press of some kind (not sure how well that would work though ;)) or do you have any of the turret rings left from building a rhino? there should be one even in the Rhino kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2553338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Great looking army! and congrats on your eagle scout!as for circles, maybe a use a drill press of some kind (not sure how well that would work though :)) or do you have any of the turret rings left from building a rhino? there should be one even in the Rhino kits. Hmm. Yes. I was thinking of using a drill. But I don't think I have a bit that large (that's about 1-1.5" don't you think?). The only thing is. I have tons of rhino parts. Tons. But this competition declines the use of any hull pieces, just things like small details and stuff like that. But you do give me a good idea. Cut out the circle, with angles and whatever, then get the rhino piece, cut off the ring, and line the inside of the piece. :). Great idea. Thank you :) And thanks for saying I have a nice army :) and I'm very proud of finally making eagle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2553748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 Sachiel: Haha, I have the templates on my computer, I want to test myself first. I'll look at the hair some more, I haven't touched any of that lately :P Burnie: True Burnie, but thats like $45 too I think. Mk IV is the best :) I have some of the Red Scorpion pieces :) Money on the bolts wasn't bad. I'm really not complaining, I'd just like to spend it in other places as well. :) If you guys haven't read it yet: "Brothers, tomorrow we, the venered first of the Black Fists will arrive at Macragge, the honored homeworld of the Ultramarines Chapter to meet with Chaplain Cassius, where we will form up with the Tyranid Hunters to fight against the returning threat of Hive Fleet Leviathan. Tonight, we must feast. This is the first time in two decades that our entire first company has been together to fight in such a tremendous battle. As one, we will show the Tyranids that they are have no place in this universe. Some of us will not return to this hall by the end of our great crusade, but fear not, as your lives will not be taken in vain!" First Company-Captain Marcus Othello of the Black Fists said aboard the great hall of The Deliverance, one of the three Battlebarges they commanded. With a mighty cheer, Captain Othello knew that his brothers were ready for war. ~ "Steady brothers, hold fire until I give the command." The Whirlwind batteries behind the wall of bastions, similar to that of an ancient race that had once tried to block out an invading force from their territory in ancient Terra, launched several salvos of incendiary missiles into the tsunami of Tyranid organisms racing towards them. The Earthshaker Cannons followed suit, launching barrage after barrage over the high armored wall. Screaming missiles and large shells hurled into the huge moving mass, displacing hundreds of terrible organisms with each explosion. The entire second company of Ultramarines, under the command of Captain Cato Sicarius was formed up in the uppermost level of the bastion wall that fully circled the hive city of Atalcina. Joining them were elements of the first company led by Captain Agemman, veteran Tyranid Hunters led by Chaplain Cassius, and the Lord Macragge himself and his Honor Guard. Mixed into the Ultramarine force was the entire first company of the Black Fists Chapter. Dwarfed by the hundreds of Space Marines at the ramparts, platoons of Imperial Guardsmen and the Adrian Planetary Defense Force were proudly looking over the battlefield, ready to die for the Immortal Emperor and their home planet. Behind the battle wall sat companies of Imperial Guard armor and Space Marine vehicles, mixed together, read to destroy the Tyranids if they spilled over the wall. Scores of super heavy tanks sat patiently, while the Macharius Vulcans and Stormlord tanks sat, guns at the ready, their Vulcan Megabolters steaming in the early morning chill. Another several salvos of incendiaries and Earthshaker shells were launched again, one shell hitting the decrepit hull of a Mars Pattern Stormhammer, crawling with Tyranid Warriors. The thousands of gaunts around the hull shuttered as the synapse in that area was disrupted. As a flying Hive Tyrant took the extinguished brood's place, as the wave of gaunts surged forward once more. "Aim for the leaderbeasts!" Cassius cried out. With that, several missiles and lascannon shots descended from the ramparts into the Hive Tyrant. With a tremendous scream, the tyrant took every shot. As the smoke from the blast cleared, the Tyrant uncovered itself from behind its wings and let out a mighty roar, everything around it surged forwards at a tremendous speed. "No… Even our heaviest weaponry can't even take it down…" muttered an Imperial Guardsman. "Don't worry soldier, we'll take it down." Said Captain Othello to the small man. He turned his attention to one of his Sternguard squads. "On my mark, fire your lascannons at the beast" with an acknowledgement from Sergeant Polonius, Othello told one of the Whirlwind batteries to aim at the Tyrant. As another barrage went over the wall, Othello watched as the tyrant once again covered itself with its wings. As the force of the blasts threw numerous lesser creatures away, the tyrant stood anchored to the dilapidated Stormhammer hull. As the fires died down, Othello quickly got back on his vox to talk with the Sergeant Polonius. "Fire the lascannons now!" As two beams quickly descended from the wall, the tyrant unfurled its wings. It was about to let out another roar of defiance, but it turned into a screech of pain as both beams penetrated right into what would seem to be its chest, and through the hull of the Stormhammer, into the ammo bay, and causing a chain reaction that disintegrated the tank and the tyrant in itself. As the gaunts in the general vicinity started to swagger, the Imperials on the ramparts heaved a mighty cheer. One of the guardsmen looked up, taking his empty gaze off the smoldering hole. "Holy Emperor…" he pointed out towards the horizon. Several gaseous, spider-like shapes could be seen behind the morning sun. "Hierophants…" Cassius murmured. "The titans of the beast… I hope Legio Ignatum and Invicta can take those down…and we still have a wall of 'Fex's to go through… Holy Emperor, watch over us." The guardsman looked at the guy next to him and whispered, "And he's supposed to be our faith…" "I would kill you now, faithless one, but we need every man we can get against these things." Barked Cassius. The fighting was intense, thousands of gaunts clawed at the wall, scrambling up just to get a shot to the face by a soldier of the Imperium. It was not even midday yet. Every hour or so, Space Marine brothers with flame throwers would lean over the wall to use the flaming promethium to clear the mass of dead gaunts piled at the bottom of the wall. It had only been two hours since the fighting actually started, and yet the soldiers on the wall were already shouting that they were running out of ammo magazines. The Black Fist and Ultramarine brothers were more careful to save their ammo than their Imperial Guard allies. When the opportunity arose, instead of shooting every single gaunt that made its way up the wall, they would instead smash it in the face with the butt of their Bolter. As a brother or guardsman fell, another marine would pick up the weapon to be set aside for later use. Captain Othello, Captain Sicarius, and Master Calgar were all calling to Atalcina for ammunition reinforcements. Both chapters had taken a large portion of their ammo supply from their home worlds, but yet their supplies were starting to dwindle. The hive planet of Andrian was worth saving, because besides having a population of over 17 billion, it was classified as a minor forgeworld. While it didn't create titans or space-venturing ships, it created several of its own variants of heavy vehicles. Several large tanks sat with dual battlecannons, fastened to their hulls. Others sporting several large flamestorm cannons mounted on a rotating turret were anchored to heavy ferrocrete blocks near the wall. Not only did the forgeworld produce heavy armor, they also designed small, light missile buggies. For the confrontation with the Tyranids, they replaced the missile launchers with heavy bolters and heavy flamethrowers. The whine of their motors over the grumble of all the idling tanks could be heard as they skirted around waiting for a target. Looking towards the city, several black specks which where ammunition and promethium trucks could be seen rushing towards them. The claxons blared suddenly, stating that another wave of gargoyles were approaching. The soldiers on the wall didn't need the claxons though. A large ominous shuddering black cloud was approaching out in the distance. The Invicta and Ignatum Reaver Engines fired their gatling and laser blasters into the cloud. With the distance from the mass, they were able to take down hundreds with each shot amounting to thousands before the cloud even reached the wall. Then all hell broke loose. Several guardsmen were picked up by gargoyles to be swung around and thrown towards the assaulting Tyranid wave. The vulcan megabolters from the Macharius and Stormlords whirred to life as they sputtered death from their barrels. Each slug punching a hole through the cloud of gargoyles. After several minutes of the swarms attack, the entire mass shuttered as one. There was a screech among the masses of gaunts and gargoyles. The entire wave turned around and burst into the foliage from which they came. To a great confusion of the Imperial forcers on the wall, the Tyranids had disappeared as quickly as they had arrived. Confused, brothers and guardsmen alike were murmuring amongst each other, wondering what had just happened. Captain Othello and Master Calgar immediately started shouting out orders to repair weapons and drag the dead away. The brothers with the flamethrowers made sure to clear the outer wall before refueling with the trucks that had arrived from the city. The atmosphere turned from scared chaos into confident tension. Engineers ventured out along the outer bastion wall to plant trigger-timed melta bombs into the acid soaked soil. They were to be triggered when the large beasts appeared, hopefully timed to correctly to detonate at the best moment. Master Calgar and Captain Othello received word that a large element of the Imperial Navy's airforce had arrived. Several wings of Thunderbolt fighters and Marauder bombers and destroyers were ready to assist in the battle, each being loaded with ^ Don't know where the rest of that last sentence went, and I'm not sure of what came after that. I copied it from Deviantart and it wasn't there... :P And the picture that follows, I've been working on the force organization chart for the past hour. I had fun :) Of course, its not any sort of update...but I was flipping through a certain book in .pdf format... Key http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/Screenshot2010-11-08at45936PM.png Force Organization Chart. Its kind of really really big, (only 180 kb though) and I'm not exactly sure of how to put it in smaller thumbnail form. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/UnitOrganization-2.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2557337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks :mellow: This is just copied over from my Masterclass thread, but I'd like some feedback on the hills from others besides Tychonaut (Though his advice is grand) I'm thinking about spraying the consoles for the pilots soon, and then I'm going to have to recall Forgeworld because my replacement bitz have taken longer than the planes themselves. Well, I did my best. The taller base isn't exactly to my liking, but I can't do cliffs. If they stand alone, I would assume that they block line of sight... Here were the originals, kinda looked like cookies with the cork on there :) http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1246.jpg Then I added more, to give it more of a cliff feel. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1248.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1247.jpg And the other base. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1249.jpg VERRYY tall... http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1251.jpg And I magnetized the hellfire missiles as well. This turned out well. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1244.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1243.jpg And whats next on the block: Veteran Deathwatchers. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/shortsonfire79/IMG_1252.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2559853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 This is great! Watching... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2559876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Looks great, well done ^_^ . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2560043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 Did a fair bit of modeling tonight, worked on some Deathwatch marines, some kitbashed scout snipers, the bases for my two Thunderbolts, and did a bit of rhino making I also now know how my tank will have been hit, which is basically going to just be a crater, probably some melta and lascannon hits, but most significantly would be the large ordinance, which would throw off its tracks, making it immobile. After several choice shots from melta and Lascannon, the tank will suffer a less-than-catastrophic explosion or something. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1337.jpg It now resembles a rhino. ;) http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1338.jpg And seeing as the whole right side will be blown up or something, I didn't see the point in modeling it as much ;) http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1339.jpg It looks like a rhino now, but hopefully I'll be able to "edit" this post and make it a Predator. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2560944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Looks good so far, cant wait to see some progress ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2560955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Apostle Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Thanks for showing how you did the Prometheus scanner! I pigheaddedly lost mine (that'll teach me to glue my parts down!) when i stashed my stuff away a few years ago. I had dug it back out and didnt know how to complete my model once again. You've shown me the way, my friend. Thank you ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2560962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenLion Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 wow monster thread xD love the start of the thread but then you go into some random Black and White?! love the blue and black but the white confussed me - I haven't read everything I need to get outta bed and start the day so I scan read from the BandW. your skills are quite remarkable :) I agree with the whip thing, if you make em smaller they would look great the cannoness doesn't fit imo the duel flamer is amazing gonna have to try that :P dreads are great :) termies are looking cool too this battle scene will be interesting to follow banner looked better as just the triangles and the fist imo kudos, great thread and now I gonna have to get my ass into gear again and finish my BTs Crusader squad and my termies [bt] then start my Imps Fists :P that all I got for now xD get back to the black and blue :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2561011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Thanks Mick :D No problem Metal Apostle. I think the Prometheus is a pretty wicked sick piece of tank. FallenLion: Thanks for checking it all out. What are you talking about with the black and white? I don't have anything white in my army :P The whips are still a Wip (Ha ha) The cannoness is gone. I wasn't thrilled with the Star of David, even though I didn't realize it until someone mentioned it. And get working on the sons of Dorn! Only had a single sized tubing, so I had to improvise. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1342.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2562348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 This looks very promising :P , cant wait to see more :D . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/8/#findComment-2562366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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