Gaz1858 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Managed to get a signed copy of ADB's The First Heretic and it was awesome!!! Congrats ADB on one of the best HH novels IMO. Wont put any spoilers or anything in as im aware lots of you wont have it yet as its not officially released but if you like HH or ADB get this book. Has anyone else read it and what did they think? Ive got a couple of Qs but will wait till more people have read it. Now to listen to Garro:Oath of Moment, cant wait!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I bought it awhile ago, read it and it was a very interesting novel. Definitely one of A-D-B's best novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2533614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I bought it awhile ago, read it and it was a very interesting novel. Definitely one of A-D-B's best novels. If he's written a bad one, I haven't found it yet. Next month can't get here soon enough. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2533663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Bought it at Games Day, 2 days later i'd read it. All i can say is WOW, its amazing in every way. The fight scense(especially near the end of the book) were well wrtitten and just awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2533963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Got it pre-ordered from play.com (it's £6 and prospero burns is £4 both free delivery!) and am looking forward to it. If anyone wants to put some diguised spoilers in tho I'd love to read them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2534142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 It's the first HH book I've looked forward to since Flight of the Eisenstein. No pressure, ADB! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2534168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 i am halfway through the book and i loving it so far.. i am sure the second part is just as good as the first part or even better.. i can assure you its worth the money.. atin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2534379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I just started reading my copy. Really enjoy First Heretic so far ;) Now to listen to Garro:Oath of Moment, cant wait!! I listen to this the day after Games Day. It really good, Garro brillaint in this in my view. A ghost, a legion of one, a knight errant ;) IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2534394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 So any interesting info? Perhaps spoiler tags could be used? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2536009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I have just finished reading the first heretic. and it is great, but in my opinion not soul hunter great, but never the less a good read. one of the more better written horus heresy books. its just what i expected from logar, his reactions and his way of solving things. the other characters are just like logar extremly well written.. but for those how have read the book.. if have some questions.. when Argel tal witnessed the infant primarchs landing on there new home planets, did you know which one he witnessed? correct me if i am wrong.. first one is lion el jonsen.. second: ?? 3: ? 4: konrad curze. 5: ?? 6: Mortarion 7:magnus the red. 8:fulgrim. 9: logar i just wonderd can you fill the gaps??? cheers atin.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Glad you liked it, dude. The Lion - in the forests of Caliban; Fulgrim on the plains of Chemos; Perturabo, among the mountain fortresses of Olympia; Curze, during the eternal night of Nostramo (and the only primarch-child to instinctively reach for a weapon when he saw civilisation); Angron, his face awash in blood and screaming in pain even as an infant; Mortarion, in the pollution-thick wilds of Barbarus; Magnus the Red, in Tizca; Horus, on the worthless world of Cthonia; Lorgar landing by the river near the City of Grey Flowers on Colchis (a vague Moses analogy...); and Alpharius, in some nebulous unseeable mystery place. Basically, the Traitor Primarchs - in Legion order - and the Lion as well, perhaps reflecting the lore that he may or may not have been wavering in his loyalties, at least in the eyes of the Chaos Gods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 wow its A D-B :o that is just awesome you just convinced me to read the chapter again.. and you know what you are right.. ;) and one thing.. keep up the good writing :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Finished it last night, absolutely tremendous - plus some of the best missing legion hints ever... :pirate: @ A D-B - I finished Helsreach a few weeks back and that book forced me into collecting Templars, I want you to know I hold you entirely responsible... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Thanks for confirming my hunch(the order and who the Primarchs were) :) Also one minor quibble, you mention vindicators(if i remember rightly) and well they weren't invented until the Scouring(unless this is being changed). Im not trying to be an ass just having a laugh :lol: Thoroughly enjoyed it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Finished it last night, absolutely tremendous - plus some of the best missing legion hints ever... :) @ A D-B - I finished Helsreach a few weeks back and that book forced me into collecting Templars, I want you to know I hold you entirely responsible... I'm there with you, pal; read the excerpt from FH, and started Word Bearers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Thanks for confirming my hunch(the order and who the Primarchs were) :lol: Also one minor quibble, you mention vindicators(if i remember rightly) and well they weren't invented until the Scouring(unless this is being changed). Im not trying to be an ass just having a laugh :P Thoroughly enjoyed it. The Vindicator was invented during the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 and the Lion as well, perhaps reflecting the lore that he may or may not have been wavering in his loyalties Aw, come on. Don't encourage those people even more! :lol: Dark Angels players will never hear the end of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 So it was, however this Novel is pre-hersy with the end taking place during the early stages. Either way this was a joke The vindicator mention had no impact at all on the awesomeness of the story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 So it was, however this Novel is pre-hersy with the end taking place during the early stages. Either way this was a joke The vindicator mention had no impact at all on the awesomeness of the story. The story was excellent and enlightening. It also revealed that the Emperor is a hypocrite in certain matters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2538859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Legatus: It could just mean that even the Chaos Gods didnt know exactly who would turn, and the Primarchs had to make the conscious decision to do so Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2539040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Mechanicum Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Got it on Saturday, read it even while DMing a Deathwatch game where I threw them against Word Bearers. I blame you for their look ADB. I have never been so excited to read a traitor legion book and the whole thing made me smile I love the Night Lords mention and your wonderful plug of 10th Company with Malcharion along with how Curze works. I loved that. reason for edit: fixed spoiler tag. Did it wrong the first time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2539129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I brought it on Saturday after weeks of trying to find out the release date (as it seemed to keep on changing) and I've almost finished and was almost late for work this morning as I couldn't put it down! Got a couple of chapters left to finish off tonight but I'm looking forwards to it It's a very good book and I love how Lorgar is portrayed as a powerful demigod but also very weak at the same time due to his yearning to worship something. I also found it very interesting how it's suggested that the Emperor had help off the Chaos Gods in the creation of the Primarchs, although this could be the lies of a Daemon rather than anything truthful. ADB should be very proud of this book, as I imagine that it was a bit daunting having to write about the circumstances about how the Heresy begun! Also if ADB is reading this.... Finsh your reasons why you hate star trek on your blog!!! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2539251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 I finished it a little while ago, I kept reading it and, much to my fiancées annoyance, kept going :( " THE EMPEROR WANTED TO BE A GOD ALL ALONG!! HE'S NOT EVEN AS HUMAN AS I THOUGHT HE WAS! " Mr Dembski-Bowden, I am your fan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2540560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Ah, so that's why the Emperor wanted to rid the galaxy of supersticion and religion... :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2540588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Ah, so that's why the Emperor wanted to rid the galaxy of supersticion and religion... :devil: Just because he said it doesn't mean he meant it. Politicians are all the same. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212959-the-first-heretic/#findComment-2540594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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