TheLoneWolf Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Space wolf terminator army with Bjorn The fellhanded riding a SR? I don't think that was supposed to happen. Thats what Ive been saying!!! LOLOLOL OR Dark Angels DeathWing Army....ouch! I wouldn't be surprised if that ever happens.... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2562600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replica Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I'm noticing a lot of strong reactions to this model, and I'll be honest, I too had some initial misgivings about the model. But please bear with me, I'm going to outline several points that I think may sway people in favor of seeing this model in a more appealing light. http://spacewithinspace.net/images/projectlog/november12_stockstormraven.jpg I've highlighted in yellow the 3 parts of this kit that should not exist. I think they look atrocious on the Storm Raven, and the aesthetics of it makes the Storm Raven's profile almost twice as tall, which gives it a caricature Boeing 747 look to it, almost like something you'd see from the likes of Fisher Price or Mattel or Hasbro. Additionally, you will notice that the model itself is on landing gear, and hence adds extra height that would not normally be visible when the kit is suspended a-la Valkyrie style (re: on a tall flying stand). The width of the model is curiously mysterious, but we can extrapolate a general width based on two factors. The first is that the boarding ramp looks identical to a Rhino's rear access hatch (no puns intended), and the second is the width of the Space Marine bases.. Using the existing width of the Rhino, and eye-balling the perspective of the various extrusions on the hull itself, I would hazard a guess that the base chassis (sans wings) of the model is about 3 1/2 to 4 inches in width. Remove the aforementioned yellow parts above (let us never speak of them again), and the height of the Storm Raven can be estimated to be about 4 to 4 1/2 inches tall. That actually isn't a very large profile. Again using the marine bases as a broad unit of estimate, i would hazard that the wings of the Storm Raven are approximately 4 to 4 1/2 inches in width EACH, giving the Storm Raven a total wing span of anywhere from 11 1/2 inches to about 13 inches in width, which is along the same lines as the Valkyrie. Now reference the following image. I've yoinked Xeorxe's Photoshop'ed image and done further tweaks myself to remove...well remove parts... I've also replaced the barrels of the Heavy Bolter with those of the Lascannon. http://spacewithinspace.net/images/projectlog/november12_modifiedstormraven.jpg I'll be honest. That looks DAMN sexy to me, along the lines of the US Blackbird. EDIT: I should also note that, eyeballing the perspective, the kit looks about as long as it is wide. So it'll have the same proportions as a Valkyrie, only reversed (where the Valkyrie has the wings in the front, the Storm Raven has the wings in the back). DV8 GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL, HE HAS FIXED THE STORMRAVEN! honestly, it looks 10 times better without the turret and tail. If it were my model, id give it a lower profile tail, and put the turret somewhere else, maybe off the sides or something, bit you're 100% right, its the height that makes it look (IMO) ridiculous...this has changed my mind on buying the model, very nice work mate! Replica Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2562622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 DV8 REALLY deserved a medal! His update on the Stromraven patterns really rocks! While I kinda like the original model, the one thing that bugged me was that ridiculous turret, that reminded me of Eldar tanks and had nothing to do with Imperial or Astartes vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Here is a 3D mock up someone did on warseer http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100851&d=1289860390 It looks like we were seeing it from a bad angle. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Devlonir Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 That 3d mockup does indeed improve it's look quite a bit. Makes it more massive and less tall feeling. Especially the wing span improves that feeling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMouth Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Here is a 3D mock up someone did on warseerhttp://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100851&d=1289860390 It looks like we were seeing it from a bad angle. B) HA! I KNEW IT!!! And everyone told me I was craaazy for liking the bloody little mini hawk! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Horrible angle, decent model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 We should just wait until we can see one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven :) Xenos deserves a decent amount of credit with DV8:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Overall, I like the model. There are some bits that could go away though... 1). The top turret just looks out of place and an after thought. 2). The intake on the top of the vehicle already makes a tall vehicle taller, and what's the point of having a turret in front of it that can't rotate 360 degrees? The model with the intake removed and the turret replaced with the razorback turret looks much, much better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Overall, I like the model. There are some bits that could go away though... 1). The top turret just looks out of place and an after thought. 2). The intake on the top of the vehicle already makes a tall vehicle taller, and what's the point of having a turret in front of it that can't rotate 360 degrees? The model with the intake removed and the turret replaced with the razorback turret looks much, much better. I second :) Just hate that turret :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Here is a 3D mock up someone did on warseerhttp://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100851&d=1289860390 It looks like we were seeing it from a bad angle. :P You're very right. And DV8 STILL wins ! :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Xeones Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven :P Xenos deserves a decent amount of credit with DV8:) +3 brownie points for sticking up for me. -1 brownie point for spelling my name wrong! ;) Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 No one wants to credit me with my Orange Roughy pattern either... *chuckle* Xeones' Stormraven pattern: DV8 is a bit of a mouthful, sadly. You can have full credit from me though, if you like. =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven :) Xenos deserves a decent amount of credit with DV8:) +3 brownie points for sticking up for me. -1 brownie point for spelling my name wrong! ;) Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! least i knew you did somehting in it:) spelling it right would have required me to look it up:) Stormraven: XeoDV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judaz Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Considering the average attention span of todays youth, I could post a picture of Xeones/DV8's SR and claim it to be mine. Suddenly the community would hail the 'Judaz Raven'. And I do believe that the Raven would look very strange without any tailfins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2563950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I quoted you in the other thread in News. For the 3D mockup, the model still bothers me for some reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords2001 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I just had an idea - what if you took off the wings, or substantially shortened them and remounted the vector thrusters, and then put on two rotors? Large ones, like oversized Deffcopta ones? Would that work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven :lol: Xenos deserves a decent amount of credit with DV8:) +3 brownie points for sticking up for me. -1 brownie point for spelling my name wrong! :huh: Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! Damn dude..totally missed that you did the initial mods on that!!!! Xeones DV8 Pattern it is :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 All Hail DV8! i am So building a DV8-pattern Stormraven :D Xenos deserves a decent amount of credit with DV8:) +3 brownie points for sticking up for me. -1 brownie point for spelling my name wrong! ;) Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! Just like Mort, I missed your version of StormRaven.. Sorry dude, I should have looked through this topic more thoroughly. Indeed Xeones-DV8 Pattern it is! B) edit: spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracks0682 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 After my first rant about this model i now think that some mod's to it might just... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! Agreed, though I think the removal of the top elements was a no brainer in any situation (my immediate reaction to seeing the model was to do just that...you just happened to have Photoshopped the image first...so why do extra work? :blink: ). DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Xeones Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Seriously guys, a little credit for doing the majority of the work on that redesign would be appreciated --though not to discount DV8's removal of the tail or swapping the lascannons back into the design! Agreed, though I think the removal of the top elements was a no brainer in any situation (my immediate reaction to seeing the model was to do just that...you just happened to have Photoshopped the image first...so why do extra work? :D ). DV8 I agree with you there. I would have done the same in your place too. Why re-invent the wheel, eh? I'm not accusing you or anyone else of intentionally snubbing me or something. It was just a little misunderstanding. It happens sometimes when you've got lots of people reading lots of pages of posts. We're cool. :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMouth Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Overall, I like the model. There are some bits that could go away though... 1). The top turret just looks out of place and an after thought. 2). The intake on the top of the vehicle already makes a tall vehicle taller, and what's the point of having a turret in front of it that can't rotate 360 degrees? The model with the intake removed and the turret replaced with the razorback turret looks much, much better. I second B) Just hate that turret :P Did anyone else think of taking the turret and moving it to the underside like a B-17? How awesome would that look? LOLOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/214904-hints-of-a-new-model/page/8/#findComment-2564612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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