Thantoes Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Have to take the good with the bad I suppose. Happy about somethings but sad to loose our old smoke. I enjoyed having people shoot me with melta and only get glancing hits. 2 minds about the apothocary. FNP in combat is good but I liked the fact that you were often immune to plasma as you trecked across the table. POTMS is good and bad. Nice to be able to split fire, not nice to loose that 6 inch move :lol: Storm shields dont effect me as I never use them. Oh well, looking forward to getting back to civilisation so that I can actually get a game in and test out these new toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentat Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I just realized this means the Belial I built with Thunderhammer and Storm Shield isn't actually that bad of a build! Bonus! I've been using Belial with TH/SS for years only because I liked the conversion I did, now it is finally going to pay off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Awesome... That was a late Xmas gift. I think I'll paint my DA faster now. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaScotius Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So about two weeks after I resolve to rebuild my Deathwing in 2011, Games Workshop come out with this FAQ... This is deserving of the HIGHEST of fives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Cyclone missille launchers with 2 shots and at a discount from their marine counterparts. Only Black Templars can get it better by having the option of taking 2 in 5 and being able to have Tankhunter with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Unresolved: Scoring RW Landspeeders (presumably this means they are, but it would be nice to have an FAQ) Thunderhammer stats are still old (good for us, if memory serves) Tactical squad entry is still inconsistent with more recent releases (may be intentional?) Huh? Is there a discussion/reasoning for the RW land speeders scoring? Must have missed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Yes there is! This is probably not the thread, but in a nutshell p.27 C: DA vs BRB saying no vehicle can score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Finally some push to get me to finish converting and painting those Space Hulk Terminators. Now I'll have both a TH/SS and a twin LC Belial. Throw in another box of Assault Terminators, and I'll have a full 1500 pts of TDA awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Too fantastic for words!! Weapons and wargear parity at last while some costs (cyclone, typhoon) don't seem to have changed which is odd. STOP PRESS: Our Psychic hood unlimited range seems to remain. I need to sit down calmly and study it carefully - too giddy at present :lol: Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It would seem that thanks to the FAQ update that the DA are no longer going to be the unwanted step-children of the Emperor. You are no longer shunned. Welcome back to the fold. You might actually a challenge for my Wolves from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummus Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 and the deathwing are back in front of the puppywing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerociousBeast Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Holy... crap... Still digesting this news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Holy... crap... Still digesting this news... I imagine you, of all people, sitting there like... :huh: ;) :lol: :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewl Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 and the deathwing are back in front of the puppywing again Having played both quite intensively I'd say they are at the same level now, some bonuses here and some bonuses there. range over 24" was what DW needed most and now they have it in the CML. The 3++ is just an added bonus as far as I'm concerned. Added I must say that after carefull consideration I came to the following conclusion.. OHHHH FRAK YEAH!!!! I am SO Happy GW finally did this, so little effort, so much joy. Un-believable. Minor differences aside all marines are now on a same-ish level. Love GW now, might be a bit late, but just think that we now have a fine codex to sit out the wait till a next one comes over. I can SO live with this very very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 http://itc.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/celebration6_2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Baphomet Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'm just about to set off on the Unforgiven path again after selling all my DA models years ago, so this news has made my day too! *note to self - buy more Terminators!* :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerociousBeast Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So after ruminating a bit, I've come to the conclusion that Deathwing is massively boosted by this, but Greenwing and Ravenwing are mostly unaffected. Greenwing can now combat squad coming in from reserves or a drop pod, but drop pod assault has not been added nor is the drop pod 35 points. Land Raiders are improved. Company Veterans are improved since they now have unlimited access to the 3++ storm shields. Most units are still more expensive for GW and RW. Ravenwing Typhoons now get the double-tap ML like everyone else. Overall I'd say the biggest changes are to the Deathwing: FNP apothecary, 20-point CMLs, 3++ storm shields. From this point on, Belial will be equipping TH/SS (and still only at 130 points!) and riding with a Deathwing Command Squad featuring apothecary, banner, 5 TH/SS, and perhaps a CML. The total cost of Belial with this unit will be 420 points. 2+/3+, 25 TH attacks on the charge, FNP, Fearless, a couple krak missiles when the mood is right. Ladies and gentlemen, the Dark Angels' hammer unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Darkshade Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Every time I try and read this to properly soak up the new rules I just get giddy and start bouncing around. Thank you GW for finally listening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 http://www.findawine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/champagne.jpg *Do the victory dance* At last! they hear our complaints! Thanks! As a long time supporter of the DA i just wanted to pop in and say AWESOME!!! Congrats dudes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiVER Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I am still digesting this. Just found out 30 minutes ago. I am crying inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Darkshade Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I am still digesting this. Just found out 30 minutes ago. I am crying inside. You might have to change your Sig there shiVER :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG42 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Absolutely wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiVER Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I am still digesting this. Just found out 30 minutes ago. I am crying inside. You might have to change your Sig there shiVER :D It is done, Brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So after ruminating a bit, I've come to the conclusion that Deathwing is massively boosted by this, but Greenwing and Ravenwing are mostly unaffected. While it is true DW got the largest boost, Typhoon speeders for RW is a pretty large boost, the FNP apoth may make it owrth running a 6 man bike squad with banner and apoth, as an CC unit in a RW build. For Greenwing Command squads just got more attractive as a unit choice, and techmarines got better as they can now fix vehicles they are riding in. BTW if you want the over the top hammer throw the Interogattor chaplain in TDA in that unit :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Im really happy for all you DA players. Its nice that a chapter with such loyal fans is finally getting rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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