Riffer77 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm not letting this die out. So I have a solution: We have three core countries in this buying. US, UK, and AUS. So the order will be sent to a US representative of the buy since Chessex is US based (less shipping cost) From there, the order will be split into three parts, with of the three filling the entire countries order to a UK rep and a AUS rep. Each country rep will break the order down for the country members' orders and send them out. Other small order countries will be sent out via US rep due to small orders. This will retain the group buy, but split, and hopefully/most likely cheapen shipping costs. Dice payment and main shipment costs will be sent to ONE PayPal account. Shipping to other reps will be paid and split by that country's buyers. Final Shipping payments will be sent to your country rep. Complicated? Maybe. Cheaper? Yes. If nobody wants to go this way, have a US rep just sent them all out since that worked for the Blood Angels dice buy. I like this plan, I'm excited to be a part of it. Don't you mean US, EU and AUS, because I do not live in the UK or US and nor AUS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roesor Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm gonna have to duck out guys, funds aren't appearing like they should. And I'm not particular pleased with the coulors when I looked at them I lost my zeal. I hope that doesn't bugger the price too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Twin.44 your idea works just fine, Ive done the research and legwork to chessex and such. Your more than welcome to take over if you would like. I am very sorry about the shipping guys. I am not trying to gouge you all and your welcome to have a look at Aus post website with the international parcel rates which i quoted from +1.80 for the box. To be honest, I'm not sure about taking over. I'm in the middle of school and the time the order will be processed and shipped out to someone will be at the time I'm doing a 25 page paper, so I'll have little to no time for this project. Riffer77 - I'm not sure how EU does the whole shipping thing amongst themselves. If it's cheaper/simpler, then yeah sure, an EU rep would be better. For now, I can help organize the whole buy and do what I can, but from there, I'm not sure what I can do. Anyone wish to step up and be their nations representative? R.P. can take care of things on his end (if he's still up for it). You will be granted 30 legen- wait for it- dary points for your cooperation :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You will be granted 30 legen- wait for it- dary points for your cooperation :lol: Stinson out When a US rep steps forward, let me know what shipping costs will be to Arizona, and I'll decide then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You will be granted 30 legen- wait for it- dary points for your cooperation :huh: Stinson out When a US rep steps forward, let me know what shipping costs will be to Arizona, and I'll decide then. USPS has the good old $5.35 flat rate boxes which will be the most likely scenario for everyone in the US. I ordered 90 dice in the BA buy and there was still some space left for more. Flat rate international is $17 (10.66 GBP, 16 AUD, 12.75 EUR) for the small box, but with the large splits it may reduce the charges per person. It's $50 for the medium box, so unless a large number of people are in certain countries, it may just be cheaper for each person to pay out the $17 and be distributed directly from the US. Each country rep needs to check their postal options to check price. i.e. Ten people in the UK order BT dice. Each pays $5 to ship to a UK rep. Then pay about 5 GBP to ship to their door, about $12 US total. Definitely better than $17, $19, $40 etc. But if there's not too many people involved, it probably will go to a US rep, then straight to everyone's door. As of right now, everyone should update with their respective countries to determine the whole deal. I'll start up. Twin .44 - 50 Black w/white pips, 50 black w/red pips, US Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 To be honest, I'm not sure about taking over. I'm in the middle of school and the time the order will be processed and shipped out to someone will be at the time I'm doing a 25 page paper, so I'll have little to no time for this project. i feel ya on the school thing. i have an 8 pager due tomorrow and 4 more to go before the end of the semester. last semester of college as a history major i guess...anywho, if someone in the US can get the shipping down to, say, $7-10 i might be back in but funds are super tight right now and aren't gonna be very forgiving. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Goderic Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have some tax return money so I'm down regardless of shipping costs. I'd like 36 Black with white detail, 36 white with black detail, and 18 black with red detail. I'm US based FYI but not up for representing anything =P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplaincliff Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I really think you should loose the red on black for a blue die, the red on black is to much like the white on black, yeah it has red, but keeping the main color different will make for game ID a lot easier. go for the white on black, black on white, the red ones, add blue, and maybe a gold on black as I forgot the colors as i typed this. also as an aside I will be in for 20 more dice, colors will be chosen later provided shipping can be out of the U.S. the ausie shipping is just rediculous, i don't know how you all do it down under. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3024914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galadren Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Eh, I'm with others. I'm out until someone steps up to handle the US end. I'd volunteer, but like others I have to much on my plate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3025113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civsmitty Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I really think you should loose the red on black for a blue die, the red on black is to much like the white on black, yeah it has red, but keeping the main color different will make for game ID a lot easier. go for the white on black, black on white, the red ones, add blue, and maybe a gold on black as I forgot the colors as i typed this. Pretty sure he wanted a Templar feel to the dice colors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3025127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Pilot Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Guys I had my BA dice arrive this afternoon and upon weighing the dice down at the post office, a cube of 36 weighs in at 237 grams. Just enough to sneak in at the 12.05 postage mark. So if you get 36 or under, the postage will be that, Assuming that all chessex dice weigh the same. Is that better for everyone? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3025278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Goderic Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I really think you should loose the red on black for a blue die, the red on black is to much like the white on black, yeah it has red, but keeping the main color different will make for game ID a lot easier. go for the white on black, black on white, the red ones, add blue, and maybe a gold on black as I forgot the colors as i typed this. Pretty sure he wanted a Templar feel to the dice colors Yeah, I have yet to see a blue Templar or even blue amongst our color palette... sounds like a witch, BURN HIM!!!! but really it's just for SWB's and special weapon differentiation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3026513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3mpl@r Crusade Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Alright, since youve posted updated shipping and colors, you can put me down for a total of 36 in the following breakdown: 20 opaque black with red dots/pips 10 scarab scarlet with gold dots/pips 6 opaque white with black dots/pips That puts my costs at 15.12+12.05=27.17 I wont be changing my order from this if cost is consistent andcolors dont change. Please ad meto the list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3026979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablos464 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I would like to order 36 dice. 18 Black dice with the white dots 18 Scarab red with the gold dots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3027428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Templar 307th Comp. Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 36 Opaque white and black. I actually don't have any white dice, so that'll do perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3027445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travisb7 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 For you US buyers, I've come up with a postage cost. I'm estimating, based on 16mm dice size, that around 150 dice will fit in a Small Flatrate box. With delivery confirmation and $50 insurance, it comes to $7.95 shipping for UP TO 150 dice. It may actually fit more, but I don't have a box with me, that was just doing the math. The question is, would it be cheaper to have three orders from three zones? Or should someone coordinate from each of the three zones? My idea is have: 1 Main US Buyer - puts in entire order, gets ALL the dice. Those orders in the EU/UK and AUS are boxed in a single large box to be sent to: - 1 Main EU/UK Distributor and - 1 Main AUS Distributor This allows for the cheapest shipping method to all parties since Chessex is based in the US (right?). The overseas distributors would be responsible for determining fair postage after calculating cost to ship from the US to their respective locations. I recommend charging (for US buyers) $8 even for shipping to cover the slight fuel costs of traveling to the post office, purchasing any packing materials if needed, et cetera. Unless millions order, you won't make much money off a nickle per order, but it could help offset some extra expenses. Paypal should be the obvious solution to payment, and payments should be done ahead of purchase (this way, no one person gets stuck missing $500 and having 1000 dice). Paypal DOES have an option for creating a "button" to purchase items from a website, or we could have an eBay listing that is private or difficult to find. Not sure about the second option, but either one makes a fee of at least 2.9%. -Travis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3027520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsminions Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 @ travisb7: That might not be a bad idea for the US buyers. I'm thinking we might be able to use a "shipping payment" style similar to that posed by Rogue Pilot. If using a flat shipping box inside the US, it will cost 5 bucks shipping (the boxes are free at the post office or online). Chessex has a shippng rate of $7.00 (up to 100 bucks worth of merchandise) or 7% of the total orders (over 100 bucks) inside the US. SO, one guy in the US can place the order for all the US based brothers out there. Lets use the above number of a $500 order. That comes out to $35 shipping to the 'orderer'. Subtract $5 for what he would normally be paying for flat rate shipping, and you are left with $30 to divide among all the brothers (including the the orderer). That way, we all are responsible for paying an even portion of the shipping that is above the flat rate. Make sense? Hope that wasn't too jumbled. I don't think anyone is planning on buying more than $100 worth of dice? Maybe some of you high rollers? :D (that would be a huge amount of dice! 238: that's one hell of an Apoc game!) If all of the US based brothers wish to do this, guess we better start accumulating a tally. I wonder if Chessex will allow us the cheaper price per die that we were getting in the one "World" order? May have to contact them and ask. Pulled this shipping info off the Chessex website: "Within the USA - Shipping and handling within the Continental United States is either $7.00 or 7% of the value of the shipment over $100.00 Shipments will be sent ground using UPS unless otherwise arranged. Air shipments can be sent at the expense of the customer. Ask for a price quote for air freight if you would like to receive your product this way. Overseas and Canada - We ship to locations outside the United States via United States Postal Service. Shipping outside the USA is billed at actual cost and can be sent insured and/or registered mail. We can quote you a cost once we have the product pulled and weighed." EDIT: Just fired off an email to Chessex. Asked them if we will ALL still benefit from the lower price if we decide to make a couple of separate orders. They are based in IN, so it doesn't make sense (monetarily) for the US based brothers to pay shipping to another country and then back to the US. We can, hopefully, make two or three separate orders and still benefit from the 42 cents per dice. I'll let you guys know what they say when I get a reply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3028792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone85 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 sorry i havnt chimed in earlier, been waiting to see what happens with this postage situation. anyways i woulbe be keen for around 40(or 36 if thats cheeper post i think i read???) australia 30 black 5 blue 5 red cheers. red Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3028932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Goderic Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Any new word/updates on this? is it still going to happen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3032287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsminions Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Sorry it took so long to respond to my earlier post. Work has been ridiculous this week! I got a reply from Chessex yesterday. Unfortunately, separate orders equal separate rates for postage...even though the orders would be placed at the same time and all of the product would be from the same batch(es). SO, with that being said, I guess the next question is to find out what US International postage is from here (the states) and maybe propose that the order still be made as one GINORMOUS placement to Chessex. Again, because we will be ordering so many dice, my best guess is that we will be paying them 7% on the final price. I'll do some more research while I'm waiting on dinner to cook and get back to y'all as quickly as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3032634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsminions Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Alright, I'm back. Damn, international shipping is expensive! How do you guys from the UK get away with such cheap shipping when I buy stuff on eBay?! Anyway, my very basic research. The US Postal Service flat Priority International Flat Rate is: (from their website) "Flat Rate Envelopes, Padded Flat Rate Envelope, Legal Flat Rate Envelope, and Small Flat Rate Priced Boxes (Max. Wt. 4 lbs.) Canada and Mexico: $12.95—All other countries: $16.95" ***This may be the better of the Flat Rates as there is no limitation on thickness of the padded envelope or box. I'm sure none of them will be more than 4lbs in weight. "First-Class Mail® International Options First-Class Mail® International Large Envelope** Maximum Value for Contents: $400.00 Max. length 15", height 12" or thickness 3/4" Expected Delivery Varies by destination Post Office Price - $10.35" ***This is just an estimate based on a large envelope, weighing 1 pound, to Australia. I may take some existing dice in a padded envelope to the Post Office and see what it will cost. I'll have to see if I can do it on Friday. I'd like to compare the price they give me to the two I found online. I thought about both UPS and FedEx...FORGET THEM! In the five minutes I spent on each site, I ended up with shopping costs over $90.00! I may call the local shop just to see what they say. Anyway, that's what I found in about twenty minutes of poking around the interwebs. If any of you guys have found cheaper prices, please let us know! I'll get y'all an update as soon as I can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3032674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer77 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Due to some unexpected expenses I have to pull out, sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3032758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah basically shipping from the US for a non business is prohibitively expensive. Once you break the math down you will probably find that it would be cheaper for the Australian brothers to actually just do a semi bulk order themselves and split it up. Even then unless the order is large enough, the additional domestic potage of australia will be a minimum $5 so with that on top of the international rate postage, again it might end up being cheaper for each person to place their own order. It may actually be easier to restart this thread into multiple threads, each one based in the country of destination. That way you can work out the exact interest for each country and start working it out independantly of each other. Trying to work out three seperate countries in one thread is gonna get massively confusing. -Dono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3032779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Templar 307th Comp. Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I'm going to bow out of this one, too many issues with who is doing what and how to ship to where. If anyone wants to get a US mass order together, I'll have a look at that, then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3033916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunrunr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Put me in for 36 dice. I'll take a look at the colors later tonight when I have more time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248796-custom-black-templars-dice-update/page/5/#findComment-3035587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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