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Hydra Dominatus! It's finally our time to get some painted models! The colours looks nice, and I have to say I wasn't impressed by that TDA mark at first, but with some proper colours (and the legion variants as well) they look kinda nice...

 

...still like cataphractii better though...

Hmmm they actually look really nice. Now Im wondering wether my Ultras should get tartaros or cataphractii huh.png

The Tartaros pattern is linked to the Maximus pattern which your army uses, if that helps.

My army wont be using much maximus pattern just a few suits here and there. Still they are so cool that I will have to add them at some point.

So.

Five Tartaros terminators with one power sword, four power fists (all of which can be turned into chainfists), four storm bolters and one heavy flamer: £36.

 

Five Legion Tartaros terminators with one power sword, four power fists (half of which can be turned into chainfists), four storm bolters and one heavy flamer: £61. But you get a grenade harness! Oh, yeah, and plenty of other weapons too. Groovy.
 

Yeah.

I don't see the point of buying tartaros suits if they don't make a difference by conferring some advantage. Its one thing to sprinkle in a few older mk PA suits in an army of 80 to 120 marines. Its another to pay double or triple the cost for termies and not get any real advantage for it. You still need to get all the other weapons from the plastic guys to make them a full squad so with the drying up of the bitz market it could conceivably cost you $300 for 1 ten man squad with full options. Thanks but no thanks.

Perfect for the quality-oriented army builder/mini-painter/converter. For the "utlitarian", not so much. Personally, I prefer the Cataphractii, but that's because I prefer the "brutal" look.

Same, I will be keeping my Alpha Legion terminators as Cataphractii.

The base squad is more expensive (because at only 3 pounds less, it lacks weapon options).

 

That said... the special weapons kit is, IMO a much better deal. It has everything in the old one minus the axe and shield (and extra arms). But it also has two power fists, a heavy flamer, autocannon, extra power sword, two extra lightning claws, 2 extra chainfist bits, a plasma blaster, and an extra thunder hammer. To me, that's better.

 

And the new power axe set means that it's possible to actually equip a whole squad with those axes (before you just got one per special weapon kit!)

 

If you're building storm bolter + power fist termies, the old ones were cheaper. But if you're building, say, wolf guard with mixed weaponry (some wolf claws, combi weapons, plenty of power axes, etc) then I think the new sets are slightly better.

 

For example, I can get a unit like this with the base set, axes, and special weapon set:

 

2 TDAWG w combi plas and power axe

1 TDAWG w heavy flamer and power axe

2 TDAWG w power (or chain) fist and wolf claw

 

$61

 

It pretty much gets me exactly what I want (except less combi-plas attachments than I would like... that said, across a large Loganwing I could convert some of the storm bolters and do 1/2 plasma squads, 1/2 melta squads).

 

The old kits add up to 36, yes. But I'd end up getting the special weapons set - at that point it's already 50. And I'd be short two axes plus a second right handed fist. I'd probably end up converting some more axes or something. Not the end of the world or anything. But for wolf guard, it's not obviously a better deal.

 

To be honest though, what I might end up doing eventually is getting both base sets (new and old), a pack of axes and 2, maybe even 3 of the new special weapon packs. That's best of both worlds, to my mind.

I don't see the point of buying tartaros suits if they don't make a difference by conferring some advantage. Its one thing to sprinkle in a few older mk PA suits in an army of 80 to 120 marines. Its another to pay double or triple the cost for termies and not get any real advantage for it. You still need to get all the other weapons from the plastic guys to make them a full squad so with the drying up of the bitz market it could conceivably cost you $300 for 1 ten man squad with full options. Thanks but no thanks.

 

online it states that you get the protection of TDA without any loss in mobility, that makes me think sweeping advance terminators? maybe rules will be relesed in the next installment? IDK.

But I do know that GW and Forgeworld are about to be cut off if the prices continue to go up the way they do.

So.

 

Five Tartaros terminators with one power sword, four power fists (all of which can be turned into chainfists), four storm bolters and one heavy flamer: £36.

 

Five Legion Tartaros terminators with one power sword, four power fists (half of which can be turned into chainfists), four storm bolters and one heavy flamer: £61. But you get a grenade harness! Oh, yeah, and plenty of other weapons too. Groovy.

 

Yeah.

Yep, I was doing the maths last night and thinking exactly the same thing!

 

I don't see the point of buying tartaros suits if they don't make a difference by conferring some advantage. Its one thing to sprinkle in a few older mk PA suits in an army of 80 to 120 marines. Its another to pay double or triple the cost for termies and not get any real advantage for it. You still need to get all the other weapons from the plastic guys to make them a full squad so with the drying up of the bitz market it could conceivably cost you $300 for 1 ten man squad with full options. Thanks but no thanks.

 

online it states that you get the protection of TDA without any loss in mobility, that makes me think sweeping advance terminators? maybe rules will be relesed in the next installment? IDK.

But I do know that GW and Forgeworld are about to be cut off if the prices continue to go up the way they do.

 

I thought I read a while back that each Terminator suit was going to have it's own special rule... I think they said Tartaros was supposed to get Sweeping Advance or Fleet or something to that effect to show their superior mobility.

I happen to have picked up that Vulcan model on eBay (now on Discount Forgeworld) awhile back, and did some research on it. I forget his name, but it was a custom sculpt originally shown over on CMON.

Cheers,

Jono

 

Also, he's a good 5-8mm shorter than Angron (would be if he stood up straight).

So, anyone heard any rumours when we should expect new Sons of Horus models? I will not buy any tacticals until I'll have proper conversion packs or specialized units to salvage parts... They looked almost finished on last weekender, and still nothing...

I already have a squad of Tartaros painted as IF, which I much prefer to the GW versions. Shame my BA list is going to be Angel's Wrath so no room for Terminators.

 

Would be interested if there is a fully CC squad in Tartaros with added fleet or something to separate them from standard and Cataphractii versions. 

 

Has there been any news on other Centurion options? I've converted a Vigilator but would like to see an official especially as the current champions, apothecaries, praetors, etc are all really well done imo.

 

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