DR's Consecrators

[EPK]

Loving the tattoos, very cool. Regarding the Heavy weapon dude, you could add some washes around the eye sockets, mouth and cheek hollows, that would bring a bit more contrast into the face

 

Agreed on both accounts.

[Dark Rage]

Personally I don't like the "look" of those old termy models. However, that doesn't take anything away from my admiration of your sculpting/modelling and painting skills - which are top drawer.

 

Cheers

I

 

I always liked the look, think it was just the bulkiness of the model especially the shoulders which gave it a more imposing appearance which I always thought suited the name tactical dreadnought armour more so than the newer suit concepts.

 

Loving the tattoos, very cool. Regarding the Heavy weapon dude, you could add some washes around the eye sockets, mouth and cheek hollows, that would bring a bit more contrast into the face

 

btw - just spotted you're in Hounslow..... I'm just up the road in Twickenham

 

Will try some washes, I normally just do faces by layering dark tones like browns and then just build up on them with lighter flesh tones

 

Twickenham pretty close yeah, whereabouts you have your games?

[facmanpob]

 

 

Loving the tattoos, very cool. Regarding the Heavy weapon dude, you could add some washes around the eye sockets, mouth and cheek hollows, that would bring a bit more contrast into the face

 

btw - just spotted you're in Hounslow..... I'm just up the road in Twickenham

 

Will try some washes, I normally just do faces by layering dark tones like browns and then just build up on them with lighter flesh tones

 

Twickenham pretty close yeah, whereabouts you have your games?

 

 

Yeah, me too, but I always add in a wash of Ogryn Flesh or something like that over the base layer, just to really darken down the creases

 

Games are hard to come by at the moment, with having a young family (and my wife works 4 evenings a week so I have to babysit the kids). I've got a mate in Isleworth and another just out in Surrey, so its usually at one of our houses.

[ellis_esquire]

Looking good DR - can i ask where you got the chaplains upper body? lovely kit bash!

[Dark Rage]

Looking good DR - can i ask where you got the chaplains upper body? lovely kit bash!

 

The upper body was one of the honour guard torso's that came with Sevrin Loth.

 

DR

[Dark Rage]

Decided to do a group shot of the progress so far, going along very slowly, envy you guys who have full companies, also added the models I did during the LPC. I tried the washes on the face but ended up covering the eyes so I just decided to leave it as is also I think it may be to do with the material why the results were different since that helm is metal.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/GroupShot.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/CompanyMaster.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Chaplain.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Libby.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Dread.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/ConDread.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Squad1.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Squad2.jpg

 

Tartaros Terminator progress coming along slowly

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/WiPTerminatorSquad.jpg

 

I really need to find the time to get more painting done, got so much unpainted stuff lying around gathering dust not sure if these will count in the Currus Belli so not sure whether to leave them for now and focus on making those 5 man squads into 10 man units and getting those terminators finished.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Armour.jpg

 

 

[Interrogator Stobz]

VERY nicely done group shot DR, love the little customisations you have going on, keep it up !!!

 

:D

stobz

[Captain Semper]

Beautiful, just beautiful!

 

Great talent there DR, your work is very inspiring! Please keep it up!

[Bryan Blaire]

Agreed, this is all fantastic work, Dark Rage. Love the converted Chaplain and the B&C logos, brilliant little touch. Keep it up!

[Chaplain Lucifer]

I must say the head on the tartaros terminators looks  a big too big for that body.

[Terrahawk]

Oh man, these are freaking amazing. Every mini just oozes that Unforgiven flavour.

 

Especially love the Master with the Mace, nice conversions.

[Master Avoghai]

Keep up finishing the great work on the Tartaros termi and sizing up the tactical squads.

 

Indeed I think it's better to keep the tanks for SG's event...

[Dark Rage]

So I just ordered a few more paints and some more green stuff and I also find myself being distracted by other stuff lying around and ended up making a start on a nephilim fighter I have had since December.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20130930_212656.jpg

 

I must say the head on the tartaros terminators looks  a big too big for that body.

Yeah the head is quite big compared to the rest but I think it should turn out ok, will see once the squad is complete if any changes are needed

 

I also made an attempt at a Belial count as in mark 1 still WiP not sure how well this will go as for the mark 1 squad I been making some different weapon options, lightning claws, TH/SS.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/WIPBelial.jpg

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/TermyPrototypes.jpg

 

These are just prototypes at the moment first one is for the sergeant, still not sure about the Aquila on the sergeant plate, second is lightning claws without the claws but I think the pose turned out ok, third is bionic legs and arm and last is the TH/SS design also does anyone know of or seen any pre heresy designs for storm shields still deciding on the shape for one possibly circular like the Minotaur's have or a square roman style shield?

 

DR

 

[Isiah]

All good :tu: . Liking the hazard stripes around the fuselage adjacent to the cockpit canopy - a nice touch indeed.

 

Cheers

I

[Bryan Blaire]

Wow, the hazard stripes around the cockpit lip are fantastic! The Techmarine is very cool as well. Don't have that much to say about the Mk1 Terminators, I suck at sculpting and have absolutely no insight! :) I think that what you have done is smashing so far. Edited October 2, 2013 by Bryan Blaire

[Cactus]

I don't think we've seen any pre-heresy storm shields, but how about one of the Rogue Trader storm shield designs here?

[facmanpob]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Squad2.jpg

Out if interest, where did you get the right arm of the sergeant from?

 

...last is the TH/SS design also does anyone know of or seen any pre heresy designs for storm shields still deciding on the shape for one possibly circular like the Minotaur's have or a square roman style shield?

 

DR

Under the current FW canon, storm shields weren't invented until after the heresy, so at the moment there aren't any official sculpts out there.....

 

However, P45 of the DA codex specifies that the Maces of Absolution and Storm Shields wielded by the Deathwing Knights are heirlooms of the Great Crusade, so I would imagine FW will follow suit and give our terminators storm shields when the 1st Legion is released in Heresy book 5. In the meantime, I would use the DWCS storm shields, due to our codex secifying them as relics....

 

[Dark Rage]

All good . Liking the hazard stripes around the fuselage adjacent to the cockpit canopy - a nice touch indeed.

 

Cheers

I

 

Thanks, I ended up realising on the instructions that I only needed to do stripes around the bottom of the cockpit since there's 2 pieces which cover the top and front of the canopy.

 

Wow, the hazard stripes around the cockpit lip are fantastic! The Techmarine is very cool as well. Don't have that much to say about the Mk1 Terminators, I suck at sculpting and have absolutely no insight! I think that what you have done is smashing so far.

 

Thanks a lot, I was trying to figure out whether to do a red armoured pilot or a standard marine also I want to try and do some designs on the Nephilim similar to that of the flyer artwork in the Codex a lot more gold, hazard stripes and decorations.

 

I don't think we've seen any pre-heresy storm shields, but how about one of the Rogue Trader storm shield designs here?

 

Thanks for those I like the design of the 2nd storm shield variant.

 

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/Squad2.jpg

Out if interest, where did you get the right arm of the sergeant from?

 

>...last is the TH/SS design also does anyone know of or seen any pre heresy designs for storm shields still deciding on the shape for one possibly circular like the Minotaur's have or a square roman style shield?

 

DR

Under the current FW canon, storm shields weren't invented until after the heresy, so at the moment there aren't any official sculpts out there.....

 

However, P45 of the DA codex specifies that the Maces of Absolution and Storm Shields wielded by the Deathwing Knights are heirlooms of the Great Crusade, so I would imagine FW will follow suit and give our terminators storm shields when the 1st Legion is released in Heresy book 5. In the meantime, I would use the DWCS storm shields, due to our codex secifying them as relics....

 

 

 

The sergeants powerfist arm was of the mk4 weapons upgrade the other was one of the World Eater Rampager arms.

 

As for the shields thanks I don't remember seeing that bit in the codex so I think I will possibly consider using the knights SS and that variant of Cactus to come up with something.

 

DR

[facmanpob]

The sergeants powerfist arm was of the mk4 weapons upgrade the other was one of the World Eater Rampager arms.

 

As for the shields thanks I don't remember seeing that bit in the codex so I think I will possibly consider using the knights SS and that variant of Cactus to come up with something.

 

DR

Further to the DA codex P45, I was on The First Expedition forums yesterday and Laurie Goulding (one of the BL editors who regularly posts there) was saying that the canon "seniority" for the Heresy is that Betrayal and the Heresy novels come first, and that the 40K codexes are considered to be the work of someone in the 41st millenium looking back on events. So, basically, the heresy guys can ignore anything they want to in the codexes as being 41st millenium propaganda, misinformation, or just plain being wrong! Essentially this means that the line about storm shields in the DA codex is not considered canon for the Heresy.....

 

However, it also means that the shot of a World Eater in Betrayal holding a Godwyn pattern bolter IS canon..... even though the Godwyn pattern wasn't supposed to be around until after the Heresy.....

[Bryan Blaire]

Without derailing this into yet another "canon" argument, my understanding from just about everything I've read is that the only "canon" that BL or GW as a whole has is internal consistency within the HH books. It isn't intended to apply to anything else in any fashion. You can take it all for what you want, etc.

 

After all, what if these stories of the HH are simply one interpretation of how it went down? ;) Could anyone actually say otherwise?

 

Dark Rage, I'd almost say make what you want but that second RT SS has very cool lines.

[rpedro]

great loooking army so far... keep the pics coming!!!

[facmanpob]

Without derailing this into yet another "canon" argument, my understanding from just about everything I've read is that the only "canon" that BL or GW as a whole has is internal consistency within the HH books. It isn't intended to apply to anything else in any fashion. You can take it all for what you want, etc.

 

After all, what if these stories of the HH are simply one interpretation of how it went down? Could anyone actually say otherwise?

Well, this is the quote from Laurie Goulding in it's entirety... and he does refer to consistensy between the codexes and heresy stuff...

All Codexes are presented from the point of view of someone in M41. That's ten thousand years of legend, myth, and Chinese whispers...

So yes, the HH novels trump Codexes. Being there and seeing it through the eyes of a character who witnessed the events is more reliable (but still not perfect) than reading the historical account, ten millennia later.

 

I thought that would have been obvious!

 

"What's that? The White Scars had a large portion of their Legion who supported Horus? BUT BUT BUT... that's not in the Codex!"

Of course it isn't. You think the Khan wants that to be known? The WS are the saviours of Terra, dontcha know...

My personal view is that the coolest storm shields that have been released are for the Deathwing Knights, and so I'd use them and ignore the "canon"!

[Cactus]

It's a good job I'd stumbled across that White Scars spoiler a few weeks back and vented my rage then, otherwise I'd be very upset with you now facmanpob (and Laurie).

[EPK]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/CompanyMaster.jpg

 

Love this!!!

 

The Consecrator icon on the shoulders also looks real good. That's one thing I wish I would have took a plunge on and got painted for my own Consecrators.

Edited October 4, 2013 by EPK

[Dark Rage]

Thanks for all the comments and info regarding the shield.

 

Ok came up with a storm shield concept just made a cast of a cardboard cutout, decided to go with a kite shield look similar to the DW knights and added the hole in the shield like that 2nd design also came up with the shape for the lightning claw will make a mould for that so I can cast the other 7. Decided to change those stripes on the nephilim to red and white, seemed more consecrator like and matched the artwork in the codex.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20131004_225950.jpg

 

Decided to reverse the hammer and came up with this sketch for what I hope I can make of it.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20131004_230051.jpg

 

Claw, hope the pictures are ok will mix some pigments in the resin in future to darken it.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20131004_230034.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20131004_230028.jpg

 

Will probably be working on this instead of my consecrators for a bit, its a diorama for Grotsmasha recent contest

 

WiP pics here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281158-grotsmashas-conversion-challenge-4-dd-completions/

 

and some paint on the base, first attempt at blood, have to get some varnish for that.

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/o0_Darkeh_0o/20131004_230157.jpg

 

C&C welcome

 

DR

Edited October 4, 2013 by Dark Rage