++ From the Abyss - A Word Bearers Log ++

[ChaptermasterDemon7]

Everything in this thread is two words: Epic Win. I have been watching this thread from the shadows, till now. I love the Dark Disciple. Even if you are a traitorous heretic, I will keep watching this thread, with my hand close to my combi-melta though....

[Vazzy]

I like it man. Poor poor Quintus. 

[Noctus Cornix]

Jasp- Thanks man. I'm honestly very proud of how he turned out. I just wish my pictures did him more justice. :/

 

Demon7- Wow, thanks man. That means alot to me. Keep your hand on that combi-melta. Zerrith already has one for a hand. ;)

 

Vazzy- Thank you brother. Your support is always appreciated.

[KBA]

Noctus, you're steadily getting better and better at painting man. It's awesome, and the work you're doing with the blood effect is top notch. Love the detail on the shin armor face spewing blood.

[BrotherJim]

good to see more from you noctus.

 

getting better wit each one

 

im excited to see you work on your up coming vow

 

if I could humbly offer a suggestion, to echo what others have said

 

blacklining

 

shadows, crevices etc,

particularly where trim meets armour, knee and elbow joints etc where hands meet weapon handles etc

 

I would suggest you thin down some black paint with water and medium and maybe some black wash

 

using a small detail brush, paint this directly into the crevices and areas mentioned above

 

you will be surprised and pleased at how much depth this will give your minis

 

don't try to start in one corner and work your way around, that will drive you bonkers,

 

just line up your dudes and hit all the major areas, you will be pleased with the results vs effort

 

just a gentle push in the right direction, I love this army dude, you build like a pro, your fluff is tops, and your painting is coming along great.

 

hail the ruined kin*cough

 

no I cannot make myself say it...

 

for the wolf time!

 

peace

[ChaptermasterDemon7]

-Chuckles.- Oh I will, don't you worry. 

[Noctus Cornix]

KBA- Thanks man. I honestly am quite proud of myself. I actually have 6 or 7 models fully painted and based. That's a marvel of science right there, my friend.

 

Jimmy- Come on man, you can say it ;)   Though I must be frank, I'm not quite certain what you're referring to with the blacklining suggestion. Care to elaborate a bit more, please?

[Noctus Cornix]

Alright, new update guys. No writing this time but this one has paint. Surprise surprise!

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000144_zps9d2c290b.jpg

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000145_zps971c1e4d.jpg

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000146_zpseaaf62e8.jpg

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000147_zps545e92c0.jpg

 

Enjoy.

[GhostMalone]

Love the use of the wings with the old school raptors brother.

 

And great to see more painted models

 

The copper brass look on the casings is superb.

Could you do an army shot soon?

 

And I can't wait to see your horsemen/bikers

[BrotherJim]

brother you are on a roll now!

 

ok I don't have photo shop, otherwise I would doctor one of your pictures, to show you want I mean, or you can check out my sw log (the messy one) at the top of pg 2 there is a good example of blacklining.

 

the trouble with painting is that different people call techniques by different names, this is largely dependent on the materials used, or the purpose acheieved. plus a lot of the techniques over lap and blur into each other 

 

quoting dtd

 

 

"My only other suggestion would be to use some ink. Black, between armor, trim, segments, whatever. it really breaks the model and colors up, and lends well to creating depth and definition. A little ink line between two pieces of leg armor, or shoulderpad trim, or gauntlets will do wonders."

 

 

I like the model. I do think you should consider thinning your paints a bit, in addition to using washes in specific places instead of bathing them in it. I will also sound like a broken record when I suggest trying out inks for separating colors and armor. 

 

 

if I could humbly offer a suggestion, to echo what others have said

 

blacklining

 

shadows, crevices etc,

particularly where trim meets armour, knee and elbow joints etc where hands meet weapon handles etc

 

I would suggest you thin down some black paint with water and medium and maybe some black wash

 

using a small detail brush, paint this directly into the crevices and areas mentioned above

 

you will be surprised and pleased at how much depth this will give your minis

 

 

so different strokes for different folks,

 

explaining it makes it sound more complex than it is.

 

just take some thin black paint/wash/ink and using a detail brush place it directly in your shadows, to strengthen them.

 

because your base colour is red, this gives you a lot of great options, you can shade (shadow) red, with green, blue, purple, black, brown whatever really...

 

the most important thing is the consistency of your paint, keep it nice and thin for this, it should almost spill off your brush...

 

if it were me I would mix some black and purple (tiny amounts) and thin this way down (maybe add some black wash to give it some body)

 

you can just use straight black wash, but personally I don't like the consistency of it alone

 

hope that helps brother, let me know if i've only confused you more

 

looks like your having fun with you paints, so just another tool in the tool box for you

Edited December 9, 2013 by jimmy101

[Vazzy]

Very nice. Very nice

[Noctus Cornix]

Hail to the Ruined King, my friends.

 

Forgive me for pestering you with yet another update but I've honestly just been trying to get back into the swing of things. I don't know why but I've had a sudden surge of inspiration into my Word Bearers. Probably because I had to reread Le Morte d'Arthur for a research paper or because of the amazing new rules for Be'lakor. So nothing painted, just a new finished version of my Berzerker Skull Champion. Honestly I would like to know what you guys thing. Do you prefer him with this head or the previous one?

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000148_zpsfecefa81.jpg

 

 

Next up we have two ongoing projects. The first is an old favorite of mine, a Daemon Prince I created for my Night Lords. However with the dawn of the new Be'lakor rules, I'm oh so sorely tempted to take this bad boy out and give him and new work over. Now all I need to do is come up with some good fluff for him. I'm open to suggestion. 

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000150_zps8b441029.jpg

 

This one, I'm keeping a secret, but I'm sure you guys can guess who it is. ;)

 

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/WP_000149_zps3d42becd.jpg

 

Enjoy.

[hushrong]

I like the skull champ, standing proud and howling his victory and thirst for more bloodshed. Good ol' berzerkers!

The Daemon Prince is also looking quite enticing! I would definitely like to see him get some more attention.

[GhostMalone]

Deamon prince is coming along ace brother!

I'm in the process of designing one aswell ;)

 

Skull champion is better bare headed for sure :)

 

You truly have come back with vigour

[Noctus Cornix]

Here's to hoping, eh? :P

[Brother Heinrich]

Good use of the possessed backpack, fits that Word Bearer Raptors would be some of the most corrupted. Can't say that I'm huge on the gun casing though, I feel like its too close to the armor color and doesn't contrast enough. Other than that keep it up, the freehand writing is on point.

[Noctus Cornix]

I can see where you're coming from on that point, mate. In all honesty, I just didn't want to go with the usual black or plain metal casings we always see. I thought the brass gave it a nice archaic feel. Suppose its just personal taste.

[ephrael]

Everything is looking good so far.  What kit are those knightly looking legs from in your last pic?  I've seen a really sweet conversion using them and the guy never did post up the source of them.  I'd like to pick up a set and try something using them myself after the holidays.

[Noctus Cornix]

Sooo not exactly an update but I have a question. I have a relatively decent sized force of Chaos Daemons lying around.

 

A Blood Thirster, couple of Daemon Princes, Skull Taker, some blood crushers, about 25 blood letters, and 3 Soul Grinders. Most of my stuff is Khorne and in all honesty I never intend on expanding the army out or anything. I just have this small force and I would like to keep it around as allies for my Word Bearers (we do summon daemons alot after all)

 

With that in mind, I'm wondering what you guys think I should paint my khorne Daemons as... I mean,  there's always the standard color but I'd like to do something a bit different. Any suggestions?

[Tyrannicide]

An oily black would be an interesting color for starters. 

[deathspectersgt7]

Ashen color skin similar to salamanders red eyes with bone color horns and such.

[Vazzy]

I'd like to see an magma style Blood letter force. Brownish black with bright cracks of red orange and yellow

[GhostMalone]

How about albino with red eyes and ash grey bone for the horns?

 

Make them look like they are coals left over from the dying fires of battle!

[Noctus Cornix]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/092/4/4/khorne_by_eateroftehbabies-d3d18i4.jpg

 

 

So, I did a bit of think, some research and some fumbling in old notes. A long time ago, my first daemon prince which is now undergoing some serious renovations to take the place of my Be'lakor model. At the origins, his name was Dhar Aq'shyash or 'Black Blood' in the corrupted tongue of daemons. Ever since I played Condemned 2, for all its faults, that game has some seriously awesome concepts in it. Among one, and still standing as perhaps one of my favorites was the tar men. These nasty, spindly little freaks of nature were covered head to toe in a disgusting tar-like substance, a corrupting essence that corroded metal infected nearly everyone and everything it touched.

 

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/2/27285/861032-tar_man.jpg

 

Now, the fluff is still very heavily in the works, but I want to create a Daemon host, centered around an old concept I developed a while back. Obviously chaos is a vast and ever changing flow of emotions and energy intermingling. Now, even before the birth of a chaos God, such negative energy would exist long before the actual conception of a God who requires vast  quantities of such energy to birth them into the immaterium. As such, this point stands most firmly with Slaanesh, who is by concept only 10,000 years old. Yet lust, depravity, and visceral desire has existed long long before even the rise of the Eldar race. 

 

So, my concept, dear friends, is something primeval, a host of daemonic spawns forged from long forgotten emotions and half-created. They are lashed from their immaterial Lords and patron Gods, bound to the will of a primordial Slaaneshi daemon that has existed long before the actual birth of Slaanesh.

 

 

Before Chaos was given shape and form, we were only darkness. Before we were given name, we were only the hunger...

[Forté]

@noctus. I've noticed people mentioning black lining with a small brush and using washes and I can see your latest one is going that way. Personally, red is a pain in the behind to get right. It's hard to put the base coat over the shadow wash without multiple coatsand can be discouraging.

 

If I can make a suggestion. Don't use pure black as a rule. No shadow if truely black unless there is a complete absence of light. Take a look at the next red car you see. Especially the gaps between panels. Maybe try your base red colour with a touch of black and either a dark green (as it's the opposite on the colour wheel) or shadow grey. Thin this to a wash either with water that has a tiny bit of washing up liquid (breaks the surface tension) or Lamian Medium. Don't use a small brush either. They don't hold much paint so you'll have to keep going back to your pallet. A standard or size 1 brush is good. Don't use the tip. Use the side of the bristles and work toward the darkest area. This will push the wash to the darkest points and create a bit of shadow on the way.

 

Other than that, all good. And feel free to disregard everything I've said if you're happy with your minis which is what they are after all. Yours (and Khornes but he doesn't care so long as the blood flows).