Gawain Veteris Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hey Brothers, A B&C member has recently commissioned me to produce a Khârn the Betrayer model from the time of Istvaan V for use in his Heresy Era World Eaters. I will be posting progress updates on this thread. Most of the armour will be sculpted using my Heresy Era Armour Marks tutorials but for now only the shins of his MKII plate have been done thus far. I look forward to having a go at the 'bunny ears' on his MKV type helmet. I have used bluetack to give you guys an impression of the pose he will be set in. (Also bear in mind he will have a hefty chain axe, not a crow bar ) http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h451/Zaevin/KharnWIP1WM_zps79ca47a3.jpg Expect to see a lot of green in this thread brothers. Cheers, GV Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I love your work this should be GOOD. subbed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 With the head turned that much, will the Ears of Khorne clear his backpack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 With the head turned that much, will the Ears of Khorne clear his backpack? If it's Heresy-Era he won't need to worry about the bunny ears, he just had a simple crest in those days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hey Brothers, I look forward to having a go at the 'bunny ears' on his MKV type helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If it's Heresy-Era he won't need to worry about the bunny ears, he just had a simple crest in those days. I've got to agree with Heinrich here - heresy era world eaters looked pretty normal by my understanding; they weren't necessarily "Khorne" bezerkers yet, just mentalists with nails in their brains with a preference for smashing skulls. I think the bunny ears came later... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Ah, looking forward to this brother, your sculps tend to be quite amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What can I say other than I'm impressed :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamJacksUserName Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (Also bear in mind he will have a hefty chain axe, not a crow bar :P ) Awww... You mean we won't get to see Gordon Freeman marine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 definitely following this :tu: and i agree on not giving him bunny ears Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3400848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 chalk me up in the 'dont add bunny ears' crowd. Lovely sculpting as always! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 No bunny ears! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 No bunny ears! Seconded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 No bunny ears! Seconded. Thirded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 *chants* Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! You can't decapitate a terminator with a headbutt unless you have them fancy bunny ears ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sondar Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I tried making a Khârn without bunny ears, it just didn't look like Khârn. Nothing about it screamed Khârn the betrayer/soon to be betrayer. I'm currently sourcing some ears to I can compare and contrast. Will post a pic, with and without. Currently I'm with Firepower. "*chants* Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! Buh-nee-ears! " If enough of us chant we might get heard. Whatever you, or your client decide, I'm looking forward to this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'm all for artistic license; but if it's Istvaan V Kharne then he'd look like a Mk IV armoured (correct me if I'm wrong guys) world eater captain. I believe he had a helmet crest like a roman centurion, but def no ears! But hey, he's your guy! I've had a look at your modelling + excited to see what you come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 If you're going for pre heresy accurateness, no bunny ears. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpedpath Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well, if its a heresy era Khârn, he should wear the "usual" Centurion headgear... especialy after reading "Betrayer" where he complains about how often his enemys recognize him by this thing :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawain Veteris Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Hey Brothers, Woa! we're getting some serious bunny ears hate :P Apart from the impracticalities of having a dynamic pose with a billboard on your head many have correctly pointed out that it isn't fluffy for heresy world eaters. That being said I didn't feel that a simple helmet crest would be very suitable. I hope I don't offend any World Eater players here but a horse hair crest doesn't seem blunt enough for an officer in that oh so crazy legion. Accordingly the client and I went back to the drawing board and came up with this compromise on extra helmet detail, brutality and fluff accuracy... http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h451/Zaevin/KharnHelmetConcept_zps237473bd.jpg Something similar can be seen on the Vulkan Hes'tan model's helmet. It's like the helmet crest without the horse hair I guess. Looks quite gladiatorial. I'd love to know what you guys think of it but I can't wait to render it in a model :) Cheers, GV Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 pretty cool looking! do eeeeet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Interesting compromise on the crest. But if you really want it to come across as more gladiatorial, I'd make it come to a blade-point, and possibly add some spikier studs around it. Just a thought :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Just the studs you have, not spikes. Too khorne-ish. Stick with what you got drawn there, man. It's subtle, but effective. Simple is sometimes the best answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 That Mk.V Gladiator helm looks awesome! Can't wait to see it on the mini :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The sketch up you have looks awesome. Id definitely go with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277269-kharn-the-betrayer-sculpting-commission/#findComment-3402681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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