Scribe Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Heh yes...keeping the bar high, simple as that...(start the lock count down) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 You're looking at the thing and yelling 'VS THREAD!' when it was done out of pure curiosity. But ok, for the sake of the thread, I'll leave it at that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I've seen my fair part of threads being hijacked by a bunch of rabid fans (yeah, I am thinking about Space Wolves). This thread is cool and really interesting. Let's just keep the "That Primarch beats that Primarch EZ, who's counting the points ?" for another thread where the lock wouldn't be as painful as it would be here. EDIT : Nothing personal, Greyall. I'm sure you meant well, but I'd be sad to see interesting threads like this one getting locked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Re: Khan's size vs (bear with me) Mortarion, my first explanation is that Morty's terminator armour leaves him slightly hunched over, but then doesn't astartes-issue terminator armour (closest comparison without looking at Horus, accounts of who are pretty biased (Deliverance lost etc)) give a height advantage even if the occupant is hunched over? Not a deal at all, but since its been brought up it's a little authorial curiosity. Edit: minor spelling And I've still to find evidence of Mortarion being the personification of vitality, is that still a tune being played? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 He's more the personfication of Endurance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kais Klip Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 He's more the personfication of Endurance. That goes without saying, but I remember reading some relatively recent BL piece (would appreciate some back-up) that noted Morty was, in person, the most... vitalic of the primarchs. Which obviously surprised me given Fulgrim and now thanks to Scars, Jaghatai. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Well according to Massacre, the Salamanders legion was the most resistant and was physically stronger and had the most endurance of any level apart from in the area of toxins when Death Guard surpassed them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Any bets on Emps true name? I'm hedging my bets on...Giorgio Tsoulakos. http://jasonpitts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Londo_Mollari_Giorgio_Tsoukalos_-Father.jpg Observe the true face of the Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Actually, I can get behind this theory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 My bet is that the Emperor's true name is....HORUS!! and no, I'm not joking about it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 My bet is that the Emperor's true name is....HORUS!! and no, I'm not joking about it You know, a lot of people compare Dan Abnett to the Emperor. I mean he's cool and all...but he's still not Dan Abnett. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 My bet is that the Emperor's true name is....HORUS!! and no, I'm not joking about it You know, a lot of people compare Dan Abnett to the Emperor. I mean he's cool and all...but he's still not Dan Abnett. Mostly because the Emperor has a pretty long hair and Dan Abnett doesn't But seriously, It's a name that would surprise the Khan, why not Horus? he was the first son he found, maybe he named him with his own name. That or Chuck Norris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It's......... KHAAAAAAAAN!(Noonien Singh) http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090604045433/memoryalpha/en/images/7/72/Khan_Noonien_Singh,_2267.jpg I mean, think about it, super intelligent, wants to be leader of mankind to usher mankind into a new and brighter tomorrow and has no problem breaking open (several)eggs to make the omelet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbero666 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It's......... KHAAAAAAAAN!(Noonien Singh) http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090604045433/memoryalpha/en/images/7/72/Khan_Noonien_Singh,_2267.jpg I mean, think about it, super intelligent, wants to be leader of mankind to usher mankind into a new and brighter tomorrow and has no problem breaking open (several)eggs to make the omelet. And the name would surprised Jaghatai...it makes sense hahaha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Gilgamesh! Became immortal by sheer force of will (psyker) after the death of Enkidu. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The epic of Gilgamesh one of the greatest stories ever Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It was my introduction to historical epics. Read it when I was eight, nine. Started devouring related works from that point on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I think I was 12 in ancient history and from that one epic I delved deeper into ancient history, Greek Egyptian Nordic all the greats but my heart still belongs to the epic of Gilgamesh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The name of the Emperor? Let's see...a ruthless yet charismatic inmortal who is a master strategist and scientist...gasp! KANE LIVES! KANE LIVES! YOU CAN'T KILL THE MESSIAH, HORUS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think I was 12 in ancient history and from that one epic I delved deeper into ancient history, Greek Egyptian Nordic all the greats but my heart still belongs to the epic of Gilgamesh When I was a tyke, I saw little difference between the likes of The Death of Arthur and the Animorphs. It was all about fantastical worlds that I could escape into on my own time, rather than required school reading. I come from a non-religious household, and I remember a weekend morning where I had no books or games in my room to occupy myself while the rest of my family still slept. So I read the Bible. It wasn't until I reached that age, about twelve, that I got a teacher who actually separated it for me, that made me realize that my love of beliefs and histories was an academic pursuit, more than just the adolescent escapism I have yet to, and am unwilling to, grow out of. Mr. Schmidt was one of those rare teachers, those who actually change the course of a child's life for the better on a regular basis. With America's public school system, they're hard to find. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Gotta say that is probably my favorite primarch quote so far...the Khan is just such a badass...pity he stayed loyal. I think I liked his boasts versus Fulgrim more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 True, Lord Ragnarok, those were awesome as well, but somehow they didn't ring very true to me. As I mentioned, the Khan is wise, but wise in a hermit's way, in that his knowledge and philosophy are vertical, rather than transversal. He knows a lot about those matters he delves into, but those reside in his comfort zone, and the Scars' Primarch has a very hard time leaving it. So the Khan's opinion on Fulgrim is biased, it seems based on what he believes should be a warrior's demeanour. Khan and his Scars come from a very "down-to-earth" world and context, whereas Fulgrim's story, while having started in a pretty backwater place, has evolved to a more modern setting that allows him and his soldiers to enjoy their way of life in more 'frivolous' ways. The Khan takes that for lightheartedness and a playful approach to things, when the reality is that Fulgrim is obsessed with succeeding and the Emperor's Children tend to leave no details untouched. Their vanity, while obnoxious, is a more a product than an instrument. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3497980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Primarch on Primarch action: Lion vs Curze: 0-1; 1-0; 0-1- Victory: Traitors According to ADB the first fight was a draw. IMO, the story (as in the words on the page) don't seem to be describing a draw, but if authour commentary holds significant weight (as it probably should), then the fight is a draw because ADB says so... Sure, when the fight was broken up, the Lion was on the losing side. But how many squillions of fights between heroes/characters/protagonists/villains have we seen where the guy on the losing side has a second wind (cracking a rock against the head of the guy strangling him) and turns the tide a moment later. It happens all the time. These are warriors that can fight for days and days. Yet another mortal wound is nothing to them. Oh yeah...and we know that Curze is to some degree affected by Chaos. Whether or not it helps him in combat is unknown. However, I would be surprised if it doesn't grant any bonus at all. he's a haunted, screwed-up, psychopathic, murdering madman on an endless crusade, fighting every single day, commanding massive armies against his own empire, while receiving visions of his own death from an unknowable source, and being - unarguably, in 20 years of lore - affected to some degree by the power of Chaos, whether he wants to admit it or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3500151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilMAC25 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The emps true name? Is it Jeff or something? Or maybe Sha-nay-nay? That would be suprising. .....or maybe his real name is ALPHARIUS!!!!! PLOT TWIST!!!! Keith. The ugliest male name in the English language. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3500647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The emps true name? Is it Jeff or something? Or maybe Sha-nay-nay? That would be suprising. .....or maybe his real name is ALPHARIUS!!!!! PLOT TWIST!!!! Keith. The ugliest male name in the English language. I thought that was North? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278737-scars-episode-xi-updated-1610-spoilers/page/31/#findComment-3500648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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