C:IG Rumours?

[*Furyou Miko]

Not gonna complain about the Vendetta, pretty much as I predicted and I always said they should be transport 6.

 

Yes, I am still planning to play my Elysians, and no, I won't kick up a fuss when IA3SE gets FAQ'd to use the Vendetta stats in C:AM.

 

After all, transport 6 is still enough for a stormtrooper squad, command squad, special weapon squad or heavy weapon squad.

 

Now all they have to do is give the Vendetta an option to swap each twin-linked lascannon for a pair of twin-linked autocannons and the Valiant will be real. Mwahaha...

[cypherthefallenangel]

After reading a review of the codex MT im pretty happy I didn't waste $40-50 on it. The abridged version is. 4 units stormtroopers(same as WD), Iron pig(prime only), commisars, and valkyries.

6 new orders (for MT only and only tempestus prime can issue them)

6 pretty good new warlord traits.

No relics or named characters.

To read the review. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/588110.page

[Warhead01]

I'm not understanding only transporting 6 when Both models are exactly the same!

 

 Oh, and wasn't their going to be some kind of dog fighter aircraft? anything about that yet?

[Ammonius]

I'm not understanding only transporting 6 when Both models are exactly the same!

 

 Oh, and wasn't their going to be some kind of dog fighter aircraft? anything about that yet?

Power systems for the lascannons? Reclining chairs? :)

[Warhead01]

Power systems for the lascannons? Reclining chairs?

It's gota be the chairs.

[Kriegsmacht]

I didn't see Catachans in the Troop section on that list. Maybe the catachan force and Marbo will be in a future supplement release. I noticed Marbo is still on the games workshop site

[Nicodemus Doloroso]

Looking at the Canadian site now, and Catachan Jungle Fighters box is available for sale under troops as are Catachan snipers, special weapons, heavy weapons, the works. I also see Mordians, Steel Legion, Valhallans, Tallarn, Gaunt's Ghosts and Scaeffer's Last Chancers. So maybe the Spanish rumour with no Penal Legion as a troops choice was wrong and they are still around in Codex: Astra Militarum.

 

Marbo is available for sale under Elites, but no storm troopers, no Kasrkin :(   Although no Ogryn either so that's not definitive.

 

Well, let's face it ... I'm eventually going to buy Codex: Militarum Tempestus eventually anyway so I can build my long dreamt-of Inquisitorial Storm Trooper army. Or, darn it, because I am loving those Scion models so much, a Scion drop company (I NEVER thought I'd see the day that I would even consider fielding flyers - GW hit it out of the park with those Scion models if they've got me thinking that way now after years of bitter and stubborn refusal to get onto the flyer bandwagon).

[walter h]

The ,Vendetta had fewer transport slots because of the extra weight of the armaments. It's like the , Hind,the Russian attack helicopter.

[Cpt_Reaper]

Look at the Land Raider's capacity of 10 compared to the Crusader's 16. One has lascannons requiring large reactors/D batteries and the other needs huge boxes of bolter ammo and assault cannon slugs.

 

Clearly the standard Land Raider comes with cup holders. Hell, if I had to choose cup holders over having a few extra buddies...I'll choose cup holders.

[Warhead01]

That argument doesn't hold up unless Said power supply is also gets a model.  If all this extra power supply is so important they how can we except the standard infantry lascannon being man portable. I also reject the comparison to a land raider. Honestly it's flawed. Space Marines use the best of the best. Which means the IG is left with everything else.  From that I would wonder how we would have any lascannons not mounted on very very large tanks and how we have Vendettas as at all. 

For me this is all about transport capacity and I am starting to think it would be more to my benefit to remove those lascannons from my Vendettas and refit my birds back to valks.  I think reducing the VA to 12 would have been a much better choice.

 

 And to finish off this rant! Why don't Space marines have an aircraft with 5 or 6 lascannons any way, if they are so go.

 

( I hope this was coherant I am still working on my first cup of recaff. )

[Cpt_Reaper]

It's a fluff reason. The lascannons on a Land Raider are pretty damned potent and require their own power source - they can't run off of the Land Raider's reactor without causing issues. Guard lascannons might be smaller and less powerful and mounting several onto a valk might be easier, but perhaps extra large engines or more fuel tanks is required due to the added weight?

[Kierdale]

I wonder what conscripts are going to be like in the new codex. Without Chenkov I can't see them being a popular choice (let's be honest , they weren't a popular choice even with Chenkov) unless they get the Send In The Next Wave rule automatically , which I don't see happening.

I really do think, with our plethora of characters and regiments, we're a prime army for a lot of suppliments.

[Warhead01]

Interesting. Not sure at all. I love conscripts but didn't use them enough. I'm honestly all kinds of mixed up about the Guard right now. It's almost to the point of regretting all the spending I did last year.

 

I did read that the advance digital copy was missing part of the codex, so maybe our characters are in the rest of the file?

along with all the other rumored goodies?

[Kierdale]

Hopefully, uberwolve, hopefully. But I'm not holding my breath.

 

One thing: if the rumours are true then PBS are psyker brotherhoods and can generate powers from biomancy, divination, pryomancy, and telekinesis. That would be easy access to Prescience without needing Inquisitors.

The question is, which would be harder for the enemy to remove? An inquisitor imbedded in a blob, or a full squad of psykers kept out of sight...

[FashaTheDog]

That argument doesn't hold up unless Said power supply is also gets a model. 

The power supply already has a model:

 

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130723220426/pikmin/images/d/d8/D.jpeg

[WarriorFish]

I liked the PBS powers too, can someone remind me how the Brotherhood of Psykers thing works? Does this change the merits of having a larger squad?

[Kierdale]

I liked the PBS powers too, can someone remind me how the Brotherhood of Psykers thing works? Does this change the merits of having a larger squad?

No immense benefit.

As before we'll only need LOS from one member. Can't use Independent Character Ld, and Perils strikes a random member...better but IMHO less flavourful than Ultimate Sanction :D

 

 

Edit: a thought. A priest uses the prayer that gives him Smash (Sx2). He has an eviscerator (Sx2)...he's then S10 AP2 with rerollable Armour Bane? Brutal for taking out enemy armour, though sadly I1.

Still, drop the eviscerator and he's still S6 AP2 with armour pen reroll, at Initiative...

[march10k]

In my mind, the vendetta was never intended to be a transport at all, it's a freaking flying tank!!!  But set the fluff justifications aside. GW did this in response to widespread abuse.  If they hadn't cut the transport capacity below that of a standard squad, they'd have hiked the points to 200/model.  Still allowing command squads and the like to ride in them was a decent compromise to reduce the inevitable points hike.

[Boomkapow]

The transport capacity is still enough for 90% of what people ran in them. Also, the points increase is only keeping people from taking 3/1850 points.

[march10k]

Good point on the 3/1850 thing. As for how people ran them...I never saw anything but ten man melta vet squads pop out?

[cypherthefallenangel]

I always preferred the plasma, demo vets.

If the rumored vet changes are true. I will lament the loss of the 3rd special weapon, but keeping all their doctrines and their cheaper is pretty cool.

[march10k]

Yeah...three specials was a bit much, lol.  I would have been okay with "you can have three, but no more than two of the same one," like two plasma and a melta, or two melta and a plasma.  Then at least sometimes the third weapon would be suboptimal...like shooting termies from 4" away...the S8AP1 of the melta is no more effective than the S7AP2 of the plasma, but you only get one shot, not two...and shooting side armor of a leman russ from 3" away, the S7 of the plasma can only glance, while the two meltas are sure to pen.

[Ginsu33]

G'day, thought I would put my 2c in regarding the Taurox tracks.

 

I've got that old Imperial Guard Primer, issued during the Tau Conflict. One thing that stuck with me in that book was how the Imperium regarded the 'profile' of Imperial Guard tracked units as 'holy' or something to that effect.

 

I've been out of the loop with 40k for awhile, just got back to it, so I don't know how far the influence of the machine cult is these days, but it occured to me that unless it has legs or tracks, there isn't any interest to create wheeled or hovering vehicles anymore. (I also recall hover vehicles being deemed 'alien' in design despite their prior use in the Imperium).

 

So, assuming this chain of thought is correct, it would appear that despite the logical idea of adding wheels to a Taurox, they don't suit the 'standards' and thus every effort was made to try and get some tracks on it, which makes it actually very fluffy in design.

 

 

 

[Kierdale]

Not a codex rumour exactly but linked to the new models in a way: the casual-execution-with-bolt-pistol and the plasma pistol and power sword commissars (old metal one obviously, not the as-yet unrelease plastic one) are on the GW site as 'no longer available'. Not 'out of stock'.

 

Damned glad I bought the former when I did. And the latter's pose is, IMHO, better than the new plastic one.

[WarriorFish]

That's a good point, but it doesn't account for the Venator's wheels. I reckon the Taurox would look better if the four sets weren't the same size, for example if the rear ones were longer like a half-tracks.

 

As for the Commissars I agree completely, I'm glad I got mine when I did as the new plastic one is not very good at all :(