Mortarion24 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 So I was meant to go to games day today where I was going to immediately queue up for the new book and drool over it but I did the Shine Cancer Research half marathon walk last night and then had to cycle home. (I got back 3:30 am and couldn't make myself get up at 5:30 to cycle to GW and go out to Birmingham all day) /sadface. Anyone lucky enough to have made it and had a look at the new book yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Iron Hands were almost officially called the Storm Walkers but Ferrus turned up and stamped it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Anything on the salamanders? Legion tactic or rite of war preferably! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Not got around to reading it yet, apparently they a long with the XX legion and the VI legion were isolated from the other legions during the creation progress which added to the unsavoury nature the other legions would gain but the Salamanders overcame it, they were know as the fearless to army units but it wasn't their official name though, only just started on the article, need to eat because gamesday had terrible catering! Edit: they have a rite of war gives all the vehicles 5++ against plasma, flamer and melta weapons, also all melta weapons in the army no matter what its are count as master crafted, they also all gain move through cover. They can't deep strike though can't take more heavy support and fast attack or a combination of the two than they take troop choices, can't take fortifications, Can only take a single consul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Waiting desperately for more info on the salamanders :) The single consul rule is puzzling though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hey if you can, find out what the Death Guard Rite of War is. I'd really like to know what we have to look forward to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Iron Hands were almost officially called the Storm Walkers but Ferrus turned up and stamped it out. Storm Walkers sounds awesome! Man, I love their prior Legion names. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 They were nearly called it, it wasn't official, it was based on their Storm and Hammer concept where they'd weather everything the enemy could throw at them until they were tired out and then blitz them in a single hammer stroke, kind of like a prolonged hammer and anvil tactic. The origin of the tactic is said to be from Old Albia as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Death Guard trait - Veteran tactical squads and heavy support squads can be taken as non compulsory troops, everyone has move through cover, all characters can have rad grenades for a cost. They can't do run or flat out moves though, can't deploy via deep strike, can only take a single fast attack option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Still awesome. Like the fact that the Emperor's Children was Fulgrim's confirmation of an unofficial name. So Ferrus Manus went to them and said "Storm Walkers, huh? No! You will all have my name. The Ferrus Manus Legion! Wait, that sounds stupid. Iron Hands!" Decades later: "Brilliant!!" - Alpharius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well they also had the nickname the Iron Tenth, but that to wasn't official. I've not been able to read it thoroughly yet, only briefly, Salamanders look interesting, seems they were more vicious before Vulkan showed up from what I've read so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Awesome, thanks WoT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poom Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thx for the infos WoT! Can you tell us the World Eater Rite of War please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Apparently Salamanders were known as the legion that would take on the hardest circumstances such as forlorn hope or drastic boarding actions and sell themselves dearly to achieve it. Also it mentions the Vth legion which would be the White Scars, it describes them at this time as quixotic which after doing a search means "Exceedingly idealistic; unrealistic and impractical"...which doesn't sound like what the 5th legion would become imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Interesting, considering the Salamanders under Vulkan could be described as such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Anything on the Terror Squads? Please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Terror and Raptor squad rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 World Eaters gain hatred outside of their deployment zone and must always attempt to make sweeping avances. All models must reroll failed pinning testa dn reroll their run roll results of 1. They must take an additional compulsory troop choice, may not take more vehicles with tank or flyer type than they have infantry, may only have a single consul and can't have librarians, may not have fortifications or allied detachments. Well it's said they any units assigned to Salamanders would consign their self to death as the legion would sell themselves and any allies to achieve their goal and prove their victorious reputation. Terror squads cause fear, have infiltrate and preferred enemy (infantry), raptors gain D3 attacks when they charge instead of 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Are Grave Wardens more or less Terminator Destroyers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Please tell us about Sons of Horus Rite of War, and are Reavers troops or Elite? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah they got loads of weird toxic weaponry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yay! Elites though, I'm guessing. Only taken with Typhon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Reavers are fast attack, the new SoH trait - All units enter from reserve (not deep strike) and have fleet rule, units with the trait gain rage if they successful charge a unit already in combat, reaver squads can be taken as troops if u have this trait, justaerins can deep strike with this rule.They must have a master of signals as compulsory HQ choice, must have more fast attack options than heavy support, must have an additional compulsory troop choice, can't take fortifications. Yay! Elites though, I'm guessing. Only taken with Typhon? Grave Wardens are heavy support options, doesn't say anything about Typhon in their entry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 "please tell us everything about the book". Come on FW release the book for the masses already :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 You do understand right now that to us in the States, you're pretty much our lord and savior, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/#findComment-3479547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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