Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 No worries, I would do more but I'm absolutely burnt out and running on fumes atm lol Curze is pretty beefy in combat, give -3 to enemy fear checks and if he is in a combat where the enemy is destroyed out right everyone within 12" must take a morale check immediately or fall back. Gives fear to all units in his army and gives additional -1 to enemy checks if they cause fear already, has 2+ save with 4+ invulernable, causes D3 impact hits as opposed to 1 and also has hit and run special rule, has an assault 3 mini sniper daggers., he has stealth, shrouded and bulky to. He's jump infantry to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verity Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 No worries, I would do more but I'm absolutely burnt out and running on fumes atm lol Curze is pretty beefy in combat, give -3 to enemy fear checks and if he is in a combat where the enemy is destroyed out right everyone within 12" must take a morale check immediately. Gives fear to all units in his army and gives additional -1 to enemy checks if they cause fear already, has 2+ save with 4+ invulernable, causes D3 impact hits as opposed to 1 and also has hit and run special rule, has an assault 3 mini sniper daggers., he has stealth, shrouded and bulky to. He's jump infantry to. In that case, I'm even more appreciative of the fact that you're taking the time out for this kind of thing, really is good of you. Jump infantry, eh? That's pretty interesting...Can't wait to see his model, now that the Raptors are growing on me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Christ. Konrad Kurze, making wyches look slow for 200 years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm just imagining a night lord legion army, making half an imperial guard army run off the board with fear checks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saphon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 what about Ferrus :)?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I know I asked about Grave Warden earlier WoT, but I need to ask... What are their rules? I have to wonder if those big vents grant Shrouded or whatnot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Those vents make anyone who charge them take a dangerous terrain test, they can also be used a template weapon with toxin special rule. what about Ferrus ?? Not got to the Iron Hands yet but will be sure to take a look at them tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Are there any new Phosphex weapons? Phosphex flamers? Heavy flamers? I NEED TO KNOW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Heavy Flamers with Chem munition, there's toxic assault grenade launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 How bout the Red Butchers? Not too happy with the RoW, only benefit is hatred >:( The DG are getting waaaay stacked imho especially with that RoW lol or maybe its just a sign I should have played them since they are combined arms infantry (my fav) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Problem I have is, I'm running a Terminator army so the Death Guard Rite of War doesn't help me too much. Pity, I like the rules too. Just hoping we'll see a Death Guard Vets Squad released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Awesome info so far, what makes firedrakes different? Oh and what can a kharbaryis carry? Kharbaryis isn't in the book. The fire raptor doesn't make an appearance either. Kind of makes me think that book 3 isn't going to be a long way off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 They get hatred, feel no pain 6+ re-roll failed charges but they are always hit on 3+. Btw Salamanders can have a dreadnought as a HQ that gives everyone salamander within 3" feel no pain 5+, looks like I may have to go back to my Salamanders until the White Scars are released, which won't be for 2 or 3 years. The next book is due next easter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Any special rules for the Red Butcher's weapons? What was the Sergeant carrying? a chainfist? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I apologise since I can't see :cuss on an iPhone but have we got any pics for NL models floating around? Seen some awesome stuff so far n feeling greedy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Looks like just a chain fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Btw Salamanders can have a Dreadnought as HQ choice, it has armour 14 to the front, it's immune to any reduction in armour abilities including chain fists etc and he gives every salamander within 3" feel no pain 5+, it also has it will not die and you don't benefit from the Slay the Warlord victory point condition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Hey but we world eaters get a 6+ fnp and its easier to hit us!!! Who can stand against our awesome rules like that?!!!! pffft av14 dreadnaught with achilles armor and and 5+ fnp to all salles. Your guys' rule suck only time fw has let me down is with crappy world eater rules. screw that, hello DG! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Btw Salamanders can have a Dreadnought as HQ choice, it has armour 14 to the front, it's immune to any reduction in armour abilities including chain fists etc and he gives every salamander feel no pain 5+, it also has it will not die and you don't benefit from the Slay the Warlord victory point condition. Bray'arth is..is..that you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Slight alteration upon reading the rules closer, it's every Salamander within 3" gets feel no pain sorry, not the whole army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Ahh thats better. Wow that dread will be awesome. Is it points heavy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 275 points. He also has an attack that allows him to give up all his attacks to automatically hit everyone (friend and foe) with a Strength 6 AP 4 attack. He also has Sunder. Now for bed, more tomorrow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Wow cool! isnt that bray arth ashmantles rules though? it does sound strikingly familiar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm assuming the Sicaran is in the new book? If so, think you can shed a little light on, well... everything about it? AV? Hull points (or structure points? is it a baby superheavy?)? Main gun stats? Any special rules? Ballpark points cost for one with lascannon sponsons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraCaptain Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 What did the word bearers get? I am very interested, as they ought to be my legion. But the model of Lorgar and Ashen Circle has pushed me off a bit - But how are the rules for Lorgar, their rite of war, army wide and special units? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/3/#findComment-3479881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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