Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I always took it that Khârn ha some weird predilection for regeneration. He did survive being impaled by a Land Raider after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I always took it that Khârn ha some weird predilection for regeneration. He did survive being impaled by a Land Raider after all. Correction: Khârn impaled the Land Raider #fanboytime just kidding after all :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Did the Night Lords have any Legion name before Curze found them? I.e Dusk Raiders or War Hounds? Anything else on them before Curze found them that has not been mentioned? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doesn't say anything about why he wore red gauntlets, doesn't even mention him in the Night Lords article untll you get to the legion army list at the back of the book and the small amount of lore that comes with him basically says he was considered one of the most dangerous marines up their with the likes of Abaddon, Radaron, Corswain and Eidolon. There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? I just found out where I'd seen the name before, further on in the book near the new units part there's a page with a Salamanders Contemptor on it with two multi meltas, it states he gave his life making sure a Raven Guard drop ship was able to escape. He was an ancient, and was even honoured by Vulkan himself. On his right knee pad he even bore the saturnyne ram, the legion emblem prior to Vulkan turning up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Did the Night Lords have any Legion name before Curze found them? I.e Dusk Raiders or War Hounds? Anything else on them before Curze found them that has not been mentioned?Betrayal, Page 120-121 It is a curiosity of note that of the eight Space Marine Legions who were to turn on their brothers, four of them once held to identities, traditions and names other than those they claimed when they put their blades in the service of the traitor Horus..... the War Hounds, the Imperial Heralds, the Dusk Raiders and lastly and most infamously the Luna Wolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hm, so they pretty much closed the lid on any former names of the other Legions, like the Emperor's Children (already confirmed as their pre-Primarch nickname made official by the Emperor upon Fulgrim's discovery), the Night Lords, Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion. That's a bit odd, considering their later statement about how that should have been a sign. Since we're seeing more and more of the Loyalist Legions with name changes, it makes less sense to say that it was a sign of later betrayal. Unless they don't count unofficial nicknames, like the Emperor's Children were, and the Storm Walkers and Fearless sound like they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I believe WoT said that the Salamanders were just called the Fearless by the Imperial Army and that Storm Walkers was also a nickname for the X Legion being able to weather virtually any attack thrown against them. My thought pattern is basically that the Legions wound up with one moniker or another, it's just that so far, only four have had their monikers planted on paper as an official name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I believe WoT said that the Salamanders were just called the Fearless by the Imperial Army and that Storm Walkers was also a nickname for the X Legion being able to weather virtually any attack thrown against them. My thought pattern is basically that the Legions wound up with one moniker or another, it's just that so far, only four have had their monikers planted on paper as an official name. So the Warhounds' sobriquet was: "AAAAGGGH RUNFORYERLIVES!!!" ??? because it was what everyone who met them said? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 No more like gurgling sounds of blood Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 "The castle of Aaaaaaggggghhhh----" I swear that's what it says! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm hoping we will be seeing Grave Wardens released soon... The models looked ready to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The Emperor called them his Warhounds I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Probably indicating Sigsimund is a tier above...Or, one of the writers had a very serious derp moment. Probably just means the list isn't exhaustive...if it's "among the likes of A, B, and C", that means A, B, and C are just examples of a larger group Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It could also mean that since we are actively aware of Sigismund's status as a top-notch fighter, Forgeworld didn't see the need to include him unlike Corswain whose opinion of his abilitie is a humble one or Abaddon and Eidolon who we normally don't think of as top-notch fighters despite both having risen to their positions through ability in combat and leadership. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Have you got to Iron Hands history, WoT? I'm wondering how the integration of Terran Marines, prisoners from Albia and the warlike clans of Medusa went? Probably smoothly, with Ferrus being in charge, but he made it a point not to erase his men's violent instincts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Not atm everything is up in the air since I've just cleared out my room so it can be plastered, but I'll get around to reading the history for them later. However from what I briefly read it seems they molded well. He also had to draw tithes from planets he took brought to compliance due to Medusa not having a vast population. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm surprised nobody here posts that the legion and Primarchs rules were given (without prices ofc) on Faeit 212. You can find it here : http://natfka.blogspot.fr/2013/10/the-rules-for-primarchs-and-their.html If it's off chart or something, tell me. Anyway, I must say that the Salamanders Legion appeals a lot to me. That Dreadnought HQ... I must resist to begin one ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm getting one, my next purchase will be one a long with a power weapon pack and then a predator infernus afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I saw the Primarch rules posted, but since there'd been such a wealth of very specific rules posted here in a short amount of time, I thought it'd be hypocrite to post them here so close to that. Not calling you a hypocrite, One-eye, please don't take it that way. It was all about timing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Vulkan sounds like you always need at least one Salamander between you and him at all times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Aye, lol. And he just can't get himself to hurt one of his wee ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 That and his most devastating abilities require that no friendly units be within the target zones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 That's what I meant, both the hammertime and the lance pistol. He's a beast, though, he seems to be able to go through an armoured company and take a Kharybdiss to the face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know. Having a Salamander nearby might stop the mass-attack against an entire unit, but it doesn't stop the standard S10 AP1 attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3482975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What of Curze? What do you technical overlords have to say about his in-game prowess? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/9/#findComment-3483007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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