badgermeister Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 having difficulties looking at using the dark brethren ROW. 1 x Heavy support choice is not the best thing considering i wanted to get a spartan that would use up that slot alone as nobody seems to have spartans as designated transport in my list im building. 2k - im looking at the mandatory Erebus Centurion/Chaplain 10 x Gal Vorbak 2 x medics + augury scanners 2 x 20 Tac squads + powerfists Spartan + ceramite + flare shield This doesnt leave me much left to choose - i will get dry bummed by most tank heavy lists. Do i go support squad volkites or should the points be thrown into fast attack with primaris lightnings (i have 2 ready painted to go) or look towards rapiers? Dark channeling may lose me a scoring option as well but i have an option to increase my melee ability with one of the squads. Im thinking i should jump straight to 2500pts but the local pool of players dont have the funds like me so i'm hovering around this level for a while :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 no daemons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 im not clued up on daemons at all. i am considering using an achilles + culverins in my list and having two rock solid gun platforms advancing with my WBs. Or is 300pts a great daemonic stepping stone of a bloodthirster and a handful of nurglings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 you'll find good advice at the daemons forum: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forum/134-x-liber-malificorum-x/ personally, I'd say Tzeentch Heralds, Screamers and Daemonettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 back to keeping this to a tactics thread - is there any reason why you would use Kor Phaeron over Erebus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I just realised, Erebus doesn't count as a daemon so he can blow himself up if he summons daemons and rolls any sort of double, is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Sorry if this has been asked before! but would you bother giving the Gal Vorbak any upgrades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm planning to run my Gal Vorbak with Plasma guns, lightning claws and arti armour - i couldn't see any benefits in going with a power fist with the amount of rending attacks 10 of these will be at strength 5. the deep striking reason was why i have plasma guns but theres a good chance these will be delivered by Spartan so i'm unsure at the moment whether to get a spartan or not. guess it'll take some play testing to see what comes out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I just took a peek at the new psychic charts, and wow, taking burning lore is a must. Telepathy and biomancy are two of the top 3 power trees to pick from. Psychic shriek and smite are awesome for killing marines in 30k, not to mention the other good rolls on the chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) I tried to summon daemons with just a single lvl 1 guy (Erebus) and it was painful, admittedly on 5 dice I rolled a 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 once, every other time I rolled double 3s a lot. Will try it again with a diabolist so I don't suffer perils on any doubles, if not I'll not bother trying to summon daemons until I add a librarian to add more warp charges. Edited June 29, 2014 by WoT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen40k Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Just realized that with the proliferation of Psykers in many metas the Word Bearers Rite of War looks disgusting to play against. The idea of a Seer Council deathstar blowing up due to its own Perils sounds too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I figured out I can't take the rite of war and my forgelord unless I have Erebus, again, due to the need of someone with the master of the legion, a chaplain and a diabolist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgermeister Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 he does seem an auto include - i haven't been able to come up with a semi competitive list that doesn't include him so far. i have no idea why people would take KP over erebus either? Are you making use of dark channeling much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 he does seem an auto include - i haven't been able to come up with a semi competitive list that doesn't include him so far. i have no idea why people would take KP over erebus either? Are you making use of dark channeling much? Not yet the points just stack up so much that I've not been able to pay for them yet since I've only played a 1k game and only have a 1k and 1.5k list so far. I'm unsure whether to continue with them after I get my contemptor cause the way Word Bearers work seems pretty restrictive and point intensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I am thinking of building a chaplain with burning law but am not sure if I should go with Catarphactii armour or standard PA. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Surely Lorgar is a must!? The guy can stroll across the battlefield with an invisible unit of Terminators or other nasties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraCaptain Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 A tip for any word bearer using dark brethren Rite of War. Get a navigator HQ. Rules on forgeworld website Any perils is now 3D6, pick highest, cause instant death ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Hey guys I was wondering what would be the first unit you summon if you're considering using a diabolist to summon daemons. I was thinking seekers because if you go second you could potentially get the jump on any units that advance do the fact you can start 12" on, move 6 forward, summon 12" in front and then charge perhaps up to 12" with the ability to roll any dodgy dice, that's already half way across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlzee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Hey guys I was wondering what would be the first unit you summon if you're considering using a diabolist to summon daemons. I was thinking seekers because if you go second you could potentially get the jump on any units that advance do the fact you can start 12" on, move 6 forward, summon 12" in front and then charge perhaps up to 12" with the ability to roll any dodgy dice, that's already half way across the board. They can't charge the turn the arrive. So they will be sitting ducks for a turn. I've played a few games against summoning Daemon armies and they tend to bring in Horrors first for that extra warp charge then bring down daemonettes if they need offensive power or plague bearers if they want something to sit on an objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 So I wanted to necro this thread harder than Rasputin but here's something I'm playing around with (I will add more later): Take two 15 man assault squads. You benefit so much from the leadership buff and rerolls to sweep it's crazy. I know assault squads are pricey, but the WBs make them strong. Now take a diabolist and give dark channeling to these squads. You can get zealot (getting a 25 point chaplain effectively? He'll yeah) and get rerolls to hit with your assault squad and get fearless, which makes the unit tarpit-y. The plus 1 to S is also great because it benefits the regular chainsword guys, not to mention the various power weapons you're taking. Getting daemon is actually pretty great too despite losing the ability to score, however, were you really grabbing objectives with assault squads anyway? The 5++ and the fear usr are just great. I'd also take a 5-10 man terminator squad and give them channeling too, the only bad result would be daemon because they already have an inv, but the fear could be useful. The biggest winner here is if you give nearly all of them power fists and get the +1 S. You now have S10 power fists gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainMachete Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 In a similar theme to giving termies Dark Channeling, I'm seriously considering taking a Praevian and 3-4 Castellax. Unlike a lot of the consul upgrades, the Praevian isn't a support officer, so you can take him with just Erebus to open up Dark Channelling. This lets you give the Castellax Dark Channeling. Again the only bad option is Daemon since the Castellax already have Atomantic shielding. You can also choose to give the Castellax Furious Charge, Tank Hunters or Scout instead of the Legion Astartes (Word Bearers) special rule. Imagine the modelling opportunities trying to make the Castellax look daemonically possessed. Then run them along side a Mhara Gal (well 6" away if Dark Channeling gives you daemon) for extra awesomeness. Smokey Panda and defl0 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I spoke to FW About that; I'll try and find the Email. The Support Officer rule that Narik has isn't unique to him, it is part of his Praevian Consul, just that as ever FW didn't know what they were writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I made a list with some dark channeled assault marines and a diabolist with a void harness on him in the squad. Has anyone run something similar or had any luck with dark channeled assault squads? Fenbain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I have a question. How would you run pre-Fall Word Bearers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I have a question. How would you run pre-Fall Word Bearers? Just no daemons/possessed anything. Ashen circle are still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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