Firepower Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Definitely need to organic-up that backpack. It currently looks a lot like someone grafted organic bits onto armor. They must become one. :lol: The cover art of The First Heretic is good for inspiration of course :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I hope FW does him justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't like the posing. Something seems off about it. Like it's artificial rather a capture of someone in the action of movement. No idea on how to fix it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't like the posing. Something seems off about it. Like it's artificial rather a capture of someone in the action of movement. No idea on how to fix it though. It's the positioning of tge wings it isn't natural for flight it's more like suprise I have wings http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/tumblr_mu8a33yWs41sb6j1bo5_500_zps5ufipolf.gif if you could blow dry and manipulate them into a more curved pose like actual flapping it would look more natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Also the head might look less posed if it was pointed down across the body rather than up and away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Looks good, I Like Argel Tal in the stories and your model gives him an air of nobility which I think is missing in the FW models. I can see what Firepower is coming from. Maybe abit of gs around the horns to make them look a bit organic.. The chest plate might be okay, maybe mix a little flesh or a daemon-flesh colour into the red, make it look like the armour is rippling and writhing with the daemon trying to reshape it (hence using ed and adding in a flaeshy colour for the highlights. The lightning on the legs too, unless making them into runes with some raised GS, I think they may need to go, he is an Exalted Bearer of the Word, not some pansy-ass Night Lord wannabe just joking!! For the wings, smear them in a bit of gore where they have burt throught flesh and armour to escape! Or drill some holes, make some gashes omn them, for where he has used them as a defensive shield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Where is the flamer from on the DC marine? Very kewl B) What about one of the Dark Vengeance back packs for Argel Tal? Covered in Chaos-y, organic goodness (badness). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Where is the flamer from on the DC marine? Very kewl I believe it is from the WB Ashen Circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 the wing position is why i asked for a pic from his backside. i support the idea that they have to be reposed or bend to give them a more realistic feeling. not sure on how to solve it though, i've been having the same problem with the possessed plastic wings :wink: green stuffing some veins and sinews on the backpack might make it look more suitable daemonic :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Your right, its brown on the recon cloak. My bad. I will sacrifice a thousand cultists i your honour to make amends. Tal is looking good. I like your alternate take on the character series. Btw, I was looking for some posing inspiration and your plog was my first call, keep it up :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Morning folks! Instead of being an adult and finishing up what I need to get painted (or you know... studying...) I kept working on Argel Tal. Here's where his chest plate is at. (still need quite a bit of shaving down, but its coming along) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/mZajru.jpg and a rear shot with his non-placeholder backpack http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/661/tTSc6f.jpg Thanks for all the handy replies! @ Recon - Thanks! I hope he remains so as I poke at him @ Firepower - Oh definitely, I'm still going to try to add plenty of icky daemony-muscle connecting bits (and really exercise my greenstuff abilities). Is that backpack a decent start though? @ Kol - I could see it. Truth be told, I wanted to give him this noble air... maybe like how the 17th see him as a supreme divine being instead of the ravening monster most outside the legion see. Hard to translate I 'spose. @ Kurama - Haha, I was going for that initial push-off launch spread, but that works too @ Teetengee - I could see that. Lemme play around with it and see. @ Dantay - No worries, I'll knock out the lightning. I was going to try for some connecting daemon muscle on the feet and at the bottom of the wings where they have burst from the armor. Since I just finished Betrayer for the 6th time, I've got a pretty vivid metal picture @ Midnight - His flamer is from the 17th Legion Ashen Circle marines. I really like the underarm set up. It looks so neat! Ah, seems great (homicidal) minds think alike How's this pack look for him? @ Quixus - @ Wicced - Got it. I'll see what I can come up with @ Hydra - Awe thanks! Always glad to hear when/if I'm an inspiration. Means a lot ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I think I see where you're trying to go. Maybe make the legs look a bit more like they're pushing up a bit, if you can? Combined with the repositioned(or bent) wings, it should give it a more natural feel while still keeping the "noble grace". But I would only suggest doing that if you don't like what happens after you play with the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Oooooh nice! That backpack looks almost made for that conversion. I'm not sure about the glaive AND that giant-ass sword. Either would be more practical imho and less "look I have two impractically huge weapons while I need to swoop my wings". ;) I like this model overall very much though. What's it going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 not sure about the chest (yet ) the backpack looks great, connect that with some daemonic sinew and your golden where is it from though? i can't place the part... also about the two weapons, i liked the idea in betrayer but on a space marine model it looks a little too much in my opinion. i'd try to maybe sheathe the sword, but that seems to be just me and augustus and I like this model overall very much though. What's it going to be? seriously mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I like this model overall very much though. What's it going to be? seriously mate? Deeeeeeeeerpyderpderp. Apologies. I should seriously RTFM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Cool argel tal! At first i thought you had just given him a combi-bolter, but then noticed the kinda long grip on the Gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Cool argel tal! At first i thought you had just given him a combi-bolter, but then noticed the kinda long grip on the Gun... It could've been a bookstick. With a really really really big boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The two weapons are mandatory, of course, seeing how they are mentioned in Betrayer. But he is described to usually not be wielding them at the exact same time, changing from one to the other at a moment's notice. So maybe the sword should rather be at his side/on his back...? My main point of criticism about the - otherwise very cool - model is the helmet, though. Yes, he does wear an Mk. IV helmet. But according to the book, it turns to either a silver deathmask of his human face or into a daemonic visage with an almost crocodilian maw when he "changes". I really think slaine69 has captured this rather beautifully. I think something a bit closer to this look would make it even more obvious who this is supposed to be. Keep up the amazing work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 That's right, loving that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Flint with the recon marine are those blue/grey stripes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I like him girl =) although, he may be a bit small in comparison to forgeworlds gal vorbak? but as "solo vitrine model" still cool as hell :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Evening guys. Tul Haekon is all finished and I'll have him up in the March thread as soon as I write up his fluffy bits. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions to polish him along the way. Totally even added a combat knife just for Talon http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/AkW2Vo.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/661/Dr4MEu.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/xbO5uV.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/901/g5rn85.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/905/RGBtnh.jpg Replies! @ Kol - Playing around with the wings now! @ Augustus - Well, in the fiction Argel Tal normally swaps between them as he sees fit, but there is this one glorious segment when he is butchering an Ultramarine honor guard where he uses both at the same time. Imma say that's the precise moment my model is from. Besides, if Gandalf can wield a staff and sword simultaneously, a mutant Astartes space daemon hybrid certainly can :D @ Wicced - His chest plate is substantially slimmed down now. I'll try and get another pic up soon. (See above to Orfeo butchering :D) @ Lokkorex - Thanks! Haha, I'll try to get a better shot for the Custodes gunglaive here shortly. @ K-Sci - Except for that one bit on Armatura. :D Oh wow, that is freakin' evil gorgeous. That's a bit beyond my sculptly skills, I'll admit. My thinking was a MK4 with a little bit of real estate to paint on, since I wanted to try for those liquid silver tears his eyes are supposed to bleed when Raum takes over. Plus I like his horns ^_^ @ Midnight - Thanks! @ Recon - On his armor? Yesh. Fenrisian gray/blue and adeptus battlegray to be Pacific. @ Atia - Omigawd, you're going to give every Word Bearer I have an inferiority complex :P Yeah, the FW Gal Vorbak are like Ogryn sized right? That's a little big for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 i love the new helmet look, it's a nice contrast but not too heavy :tu: and either i missed it, or you didn't answer my question about Argel Tal's backpack (where is it from?) Tell me now or get stabbed in dark corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Wow, those lenses really pop! HAve you been using powders or pigments as the dusty effect on bottom of the cloak The blue is a nice spot colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Like the Addition of the Earthy tones, really helps add to the illusion over the WiP grey and black you showed us. Just a little remark: what made you outline the shoulder pad under the (what I assume is a) cameleoline cloak? Doesn't that go against the point of camo : to break up inorganic forms and shapes and help them blend into the terrain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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