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[Kol Saresk]

Heh, not sure Terrans should be restricted to Mk II. After all Zso Sahaal is a Terran, but he is described as wearing the iconic metal Raptor armor. So I'd argue personal preference.

[Aeternus]

I don't think the Terrans would be confined to mkII only, but I'd argue it could be seen to be fitting. Plus, they're rarer now, what with most people using the sang guard mkIV ones. So yeah, my vote is mkII

[Kaldoth]

You could always use the bat-winged jet packs from puppetswar :P I mean, they're Raptors. They're like a legion within a legion, so a little mutation won't hurt anyone :lol:

[Kol Saresk]

You could always use the bat-winged jet packs from puppetswar :P I mean, they're Raptors. They're like a legion within a legion, so a little mutation won't hurt anyone :lol:

It might hurt just a little during the Heresy :lol:

[Augustus b'Raass]

Heh, not sure Terrans should be restricted to Mk II. After all Zso Sahaal is a Terran, but he is described as wearing the iconic metal Raptor armor. So I'd argue personal preference.

 

I don't think the Terrans would be confined to mkII only, but I'd argue it could be seen to be fitting. Plus, they're rarer now, what with most people using the sang guard mkIV ones. So yeah, my vote is mkII

 

Stop twisting my words, you guys! I never mentioned 'restricted' or 'constricted'.  Just saying that the original Terran Legions fought exclusively in MkII during the unification wars and the beginning of the Great Crusade, as that was the only mark available/developed up to that point. Hence my suggestion that MkII is appropriate for a Terran dude. Naturally he could since have adorned a different mark. :tu: 

[Aeternus]

Twisting your words? Us? Never...

 

But yeah, what Augustus said.

[Kol Saresk]

Well to be fair, not much twisting is needed. Usually when saying "X is appropriate for Y", the very implication is that everything else either isn't appropriate, or isn't as appropriate.

 

So while certainly the Mk IIs are "iconic" of the early Legions, it just always strikes me as weird that as an average across the entire board in the Heresy forum "Mk II=Terrans".

 

For me personally, I like the older Marks for representing Night Lords because compared to Mk IV, they look absolutely brutal. But just always struck me as odd that everyone kind of expects the Terrans to remain stagnant and pass up the newer armor upgrades as they came along.

 

Which, I'm sure there were more than just some who did something like that.

 

I'm just a big proponent of personal preference over community preference is all.

[Xin Ceithan]

i am shamelessly posting this here again as it`s the most recent VIIIth Legion miniature I have painted in a long time and I felt like sharing it with my favorite slithroaths and backstabbers!

So...

I wanted to do something special for the VIIIth. Since I am huge fan of the artwork on the original NL books, I thought I try my hand at capturing the feel of those covers, Void Stalker in particular. came out not quite the way I wanted, but still quite pleased with it. Pics are not so well. Sorry.

Still, here goes...

During the initial engagements at Isstvan, the 21th Company of the VIIIth Legion held back the bulk of it's infantry, mainly deploying boarding parties in support of it's company main naval assets, centered around the strike cruiser "Asphyxia's Call." Early support of the on planet forces consisted mainly of then plentiful aerospace units which were first used to help establish air superiority and would then go on to on to hunt down surviving loyalist forces trying to escape from the surface. Only at this later stage of what would become known as the Drop Site Massacre would the 21st commit it' s primary infantry forces. consisting mostly of Raptor formations and a surplus of designated " Terror Squads", who would stalk the black sands of Isstvan for loyalist survivors.

Due to the massive amount of dust and debris thrown up in the initial engagements as well as atmospheric conditions after multi legion orbital landings, conditions at ground level were basically low visibility and akin to night fighting, further playing into the strengths of the VIII Legion forces. The pict capture, taken under low light augmented auto sense conditions, has been ascribed to Legionary Ezra Munqh, 21st Co., VIIIth Legion. Nicknamed "the Confessor", he was known to kneel down and listen in to the dying breaths of his victims, often adding the hands and fingers of the slain to his armour as a representation of the failing interest of the universe in such pleas. Munqh would rise to squad leadership in later days and is recorded as having been fatally wounded in the Thramas campaign. There are reports of his signature behavior being displayed by a Contemptor class dreadnought shell during the Siege, but these are unconfirmed.

[Chandrian]

Loving that Meat Cleaver! .  Handle looks like its from a chainsword, but is the blade scratch built or from another model? 

[Xin Ceithan]

Loving that Meat Cleaver! . Handle looks like its from a chainsword, but is the blade scratch built or from another model?

Thanks. Guilty as charged on the chainsword handle. Well spottted. The cleaver is from a beastmen sprue IIRC ( - or possibly a smaller ogre knife. The longer ogre swords look to nurgly for straight VIIIth for my taste).

[Augustus b'Raass]

Well to be fair, not much twisting is needed. Usually when saying "X is appropriate for Y", the very implication is that everything else either isn't appropriate, or isn't as appropriate.

Perhaps you have a different meaning of ´appropriate´ in mind than I do, but I can think of a million ways in which ´X is appropriate to Y´ doesn't have such a restrictive, excluding meaning. For example: 'A black suit is appropriate wear to a funeral' This does not mean that navy blue suits or black dresses are inappropriate wear to a funeral, nor that a black suit is inappropriate wear to a cocktail party or a job interview. In fact, I can't think of any context in which the implication of "X is appropriate for Y" is that everything else either isn't appropriate, or isn't as appropriate.  

It just always struck me as odd that everyone kind of expects the Terrans to remain stagnant and pass up the newer armor upgrades as they came along.

Where did you get the idea that everyone expects Terrans to remain stagnant? In my experience, in this forum alone, the frater generally have a very fluid, open and broad understanding of the fictional history - in which pretty much anything goes as long as it doesn´t directly interferes with the canon. That being said, you can't but agree that canon says the great crusade began from Terra and that at the time only MkII was used, and as such MkII armour can be seen as iconic to that period - and by association to Terran marines. I´m not saying that marines are stagnant and don't change armour, I´m just saying that most Terran marines from the early crusade wore MkII, and that when asked which MKII and MkIV would 'look nicer' for a character that is supposed to be a Terran, like TheOneMarshal asked, then I'd personally go for MkII. You can disagree with my taste, but not with my reasoning, right?

 

 

I get that you dislike community preference over personal preference, but please don't judge me for giving my reasoned personal preference when asked about it. :tu: :)

[Kol Saresk]

I deserve every bit of that and have no excuse. Apologies and a plea for forgiveness.

 

Here I am trying to be "open-minded" and "progressive" and instead I'm acting just as narrow-minded and reactionary as I thought I wasn't.

[Augustus b'Raass]

Best response ever. :tu:

[Aeternus]

Hey there. So, I've just received my first knight - An Atrapos, and I'm in a bit of a predicament.

 

Still trying to come up with a paint scheme for the knight - House Nyx, on deployment alongside House Achlys and Legio Ulricon. Any ideas?

There's going to be a mix of Night Lord scheme and other, just haven't decided on the other. Black and red is rather...common now.

[ThatOneMarshal]

Well you have to ask yourself a question when you've got the knight, do you want something that's a complete opposite color to contrast against your night lords or something that is the same color?

 

When/if I ever get a knight I plan to do it in the same color scheme that Augustus did his warhound because it just looks so damn cool. My fluff will be that the knight has been fighting alongside the company for most of the crusade and has become an honory legionnaire.

 

However if you want a color that contrasts with blue is purple. You could do maybe a dark grey with yellow? That might contrasts well.

 

Also thank you for the advice in getting MK 2! Kol I think you may have pulled a kurze!

[Augustus b'Raass]

What Masrhal said. Or perhaps Red and Bone? 

 

Either way, and Atrapos is always a good sight. Gie us a linky when you start work on him :)

[Aeternus]

So, got a couple of schemes side by side. Metallic black with brass trim, or blood red with a silver trim. I'm thinking maybe Blood red with a metallic black trim and bone with brass as alternative colours?

 

(Yeah, I tested on a scion, the schemes for a knight though ;)  )

[Augustus b'Raass]

That's quite the rare and cool miniature to be testing on!

 

Not a big fan of steel trim myself, so if you'd ask me, I'd go with your reed/bone colours, with brass trim.

[Aeternus]

You're probably thinking of the standing one for rarity! This one is only £15 from FW, good test mini. And cheap by FW standards 

 

I do hope to one day own a standing one for each knight I have. All with their wonderful moustaches 

[ThatOneMarshal]

Sad to see our dreadnought being retired, though I never was a big fan of it. It looked too goofy.

[Knight of the Raven]

I think what you meant to say was "Russia and China are about to get a lot of business."

[Psykic_scribe]

Changing topic for Knight of the Raven, I have suffered a lightning strike on the village power and internet, but I am very near to completing my Night Lord Helbrute scenario. Hopfully tomorrow I can publish some pics. Meanwhile, here is a distrressed Knight of the Raven in need of TLC. This is my first (and probably only) attempt at a freehand iconography for the KotR.

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.... Helbrute is so nearly ready.

[Knight of the Raven]

in need of TLC

Twin Lightning Claws to the face?

 

He looks good, thanks for showing!

[Psykic_scribe]

LAST GREAT ACT OF DEFIANCE

I have finally got all the scenario together - Helbrute with two power fists and a very damaged Knight of the Raven hoping for a lucky strike with his bolt pistol - if only his helmet vision would work properly (I have not put any white glow spots in the eyes).

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and more angles of the same .....

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Hope you like this reference to that historic poster mentioned earlier.

[ThatOneMarshal]

I like it! I never realized how cool the Helbrute looked until I saw it in VIII colors.