Panzer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 We don't know whether Chaos will be the first tho lol All we know is that all factions will get a re-work at launch and then Deathguard (and maybe another new faction...which i still doubt) gets released. So while Deathguard are technically Chaos and thus first...they aren't exactly CSM. That one will come later eventually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic_cauldron Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 @Augustus: May you be right Brother! Celtic_Cauldron Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Actually Brothers I will moderate a bit my own enthusiasm even though, as a 2nd Ed. Veteran I read a damn lot of good points. The official leaks are really interesting and the basic mechanics look good. Yet they are just that: basic mechanics. In their comments, GW suggest that there will be exceptions, special rules. Therefore, because the future rulebook will only be 12 pages, those exceptions will be in the Codices and consequently I want to remain cautious and wait for the whole package to see the layer of exceptions and how they will affect the basic schemes. Celtic_Cauldron You mean datasheets. Free unit datasheets. Codices will be able to be updated constantly, so they move with the meta instead of being overtaken by it. So even though Chaos will once again be the first army (re)released, this time we won't suffer from it in later stages of the edition, like we have from 3d onwards. Well, I mean, technically GW never had codices. They paid for the trademark of "Codexes" so everything is in Codexes. If you want to be technically bureaucratic about it. :P But yeah, I dunno. AoS only had free datasheets and battletomes until they had enough "printed" battletomes to just do away with them I guess. So we'll see something like that for the first six months I think is what AoS did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardl Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Actually Brothers I will moderate a bit my own enthusiasm even though, as a 2nd Ed. Veteran I read a damn lot of good points. The official leaks are really interesting and the basic mechanics look good. Yet they are just that: basic mechanics. In their comments, GW suggest that there will be exceptions, special rules. Therefore, because the future rulebook will only be 12 pages, those exceptions will be in the Codices and consequently I want to remain cautious and wait for the whole package to see the layer of exceptions and how they will affect the basic schemes. Celtic_Cauldron You mean datasheets. Free unit datasheets. Codices will be able to be updated constantly, so they move with the meta instead of being overtaken by it. So even though Chaos will once again be the first army (re)released, this time we won't suffer from it in later stages of the edition, like we have from 3d onwards. Well, I mean, technically GW never had codices. They paid for the trademark of "Codexes" so everything is in Codexes. If you want to be technically bureaucratic about it. But yeah, I dunno. AoS only had free datasheets and battletomes until they had enough "printed" battletomes to just do away with them I guess. So we'll see something like that for the first six months I think is what AoS did. Wait so AOS don't use free data sheets anymore? Do you have to purchase paper books now to play it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Actually Brothers I will moderate a bit my own enthusiasm even though, as a 2nd Ed. Veteran I read a damn lot of good points. The official leaks are really interesting and the basic mechanics look good. Yet they are just that: basic mechanics. In their comments, GW suggest that there will be exceptions, special rules. Therefore, because the future rulebook will only be 12 pages, those exceptions will be in the Codices and consequently I want to remain cautious and wait for the whole package to see the layer of exceptions and how they will affect the basic schemes. Celtic_Cauldron You mean datasheets. Free unit datasheets. Codices will be able to be updated constantly, so they move with the meta instead of being overtaken by it. So even though Chaos will once again be the first army (re)released, this time we won't suffer from it in later stages of the edition, like we have from 3d onwards. Well, I mean, technically GW never had codices. They paid for the trademark of "Codexes" so everything is in Codexes. If you want to be technically bureaucratic about it. But yeah, I dunno. AoS only had free datasheets and battletomes until they had enough "printed" battletomes to just do away with them I guess. So we'll see something like that for the first six months I think is what AoS did. Wait so AOS don't use free data sheets anymore? Do you have to purchase paper books now to play it? Nah, the datasheets are still free but they also have something like codices you have to buy afaik. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I haven't seen datasheets in a while. Where can you find them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I haven't seen datasheets in a while. Where can you find them? There for example. Just click on downloads. ;) https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Kairos-Fateweaver-2017 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardl Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Also forgot to post this! http://imageshack.com/a/img924/8003/pSW23W.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I think that got posted here somewhere already. :D Fear how it works in SW:A would be very cool but I expect some simple LD modifier of -1 when being near a Night Lord unit tbh. (Which is not bad at all) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well, the article got posted, but not the facebook post. At least, not in this thread I don't think. Also, thanks for showing where the downloads are. I kept going to rules and the warhammer digital website and I was finding nothing so I thought they had done away with it. Good to know they haven't. Although, with the datasheets right there, and digital battletomes, I wonder how long until hard-paper rules become a thing of the past since those always require FAQs to either be printed or saved to a mobile device anyways. At least with a digital rulebook they can just patch in the FAQs as an update and then just post a summary online so you're aware what's new. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4729765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I guess that this maybe is discussed on other thread(s) but, since we can now charge after DS -even with terminators!- how do feel about Warp Talons now? Wondering if they keep their blind rule and if so, how many inches will it affect (they need to be greater than 9" when DSing). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4745791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I guess that this maybe is discussed on other thread(s) but, since we can now charge after DS -even with terminators!- how do feel about Warp Talons now? Wondering if they keep their blind rule and if so, how many inches will it affect (they need to be greater than 9" when DSing). It would certainly help me choose them! I have a box of raptors there that I haven't decided to make them raptors or warp talons yet. I'm thinking of taking a chance on warp talons. The problem is GW could do something silly like INCREASE their points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4745806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 We don't know whether we will be able to charge from deep strike. We just know the Trygon rules for sure. However if we are going to be able to it will be glorious! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4745814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Abaia Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I've been dragging my warp talons along through 7th because I love the models. I really hope that they find some better use than overpriced-invuln-save-ablative-wounds for my Jump Lord. It would be super cool if their deep strike equivalent rule allows for them to be placed at a closer range than 9" vs a target unit chosen before the start of the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4746302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't like to speculate or get into a discussion about hypotheticals. I'll see what 8th brings when it is actually brought to us. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4747206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi fellow flayers, I tried to make a Night Lords list with all the leaked rules. May I ask for input? Thanks in advance. Linky Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4761025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It's time to show your allegience! http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334822-diu-ad-belli-legion-war/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4787698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 All Credit to "Warhammer 40k: Bolter to Kokoro" on Facebook https://imgur.com/gallery/aAYrR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4815852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Also forgot to post this! Hahaha ah well. I just hope that we will get some scary grenades aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4815855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 lol, those posers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4816264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 lol, those posers...Yeah. I'll worry about it when GW starts making them all Jump Pack troops. Then we'll know they're scavenging the VIIIth. Until then, we have FW, where we're treated like an actual Legion. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4816266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Done bar weathering. Sicaran Punisher variant "Midnights Bastion" Night Lords 123rd Company http://i.imgur.com/MgyzwTh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EC3yw0l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kLU3WgN.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4829829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Sorry for the double post dudes but I'm going to be swinging on into my first game of 8th soonish and I've got a preliminary list I need my fellow lords of the night to have a butchers over. I'm using my heresy era dudes for the largely uncorrupted look (except the raptors because I converted them to destroyers and I have to proxy Volkite as bolters but still) 95 power or 1734pts Termi-lord: combi-bolter +power axe Sorceror: bolt pistol + force sword 2x10csm: bolt pistols + ccw 2x power sword 1x10csm: bolters 1x power sword 5x terminators: 4x combiplas 1x reaper 5x power axe 5x chosen: 5xcombi plas 1x power fist Rhino: combi bolter Dreadbrute: plasma cannon + scourge Predator: autocannon + Lascannon sponsons 10xraptors: 2 plasma guns 1x power fist Gimme the shimmy, 40k isn't my usual battleground really, but I can't let the loyalists have a cakewalk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4831866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 That sorc needs a jump pack if possible, to drop with the termies and cast warptime. Or you can otherwise mark them as <Khorne> and give them the Icon of Wrath (trophies?) to allow them to re-roll the charge when needed. With only one rhino, which I guess may be for the chosen, your infantry may suffer. May I suggest to merge the 2x10 into a 1x20 and make them zerkers? I know NL shouldn't be worshipping any gods, but hey, Terror Troops ^_^ Also, for the looks of that sicaran, if you have more FW heresy era goodies, that may help a lot, since much of the FW chaos stuff is golden. Leviathans, deredeos, rapiers, scorpius... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4831874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 That sorc needs a jump pack if possible, to drop with the termies and cast warptime. Or you can otherwise mark them as <Khorne> and give them the Icon of Wrath (trophies?) to allow them to re-roll the charge when needed. With only one rhino, which I guess may be for the chosen, your infantry may suffer. May I suggest to merge the 2x10 into a 1x20 and make them zerkers? I know NL shouldn't be worshipping any gods, but hey, Terror Troops ^_^ Also, for the looks of that sicaran, if you have more FW heresy era goodies, that may help a lot, since much of the FW chaos stuff is golden. Leviathans, deredeos, rapiers, scorpius... Ah well the sorceror was going to ride with the chosen and use prescience. Because I have a thing for that power (it does me good in heresy oh how it does me good), and the bonus to hit combined with chucking out plasma would be beneficial I feel? As for the FW stuff, I have inquired with my local store to see if he's cool with it, else the pred would've been my regular sicaran and the dread would've been my dual fist contemptor, so I'm primed and ready to swap. As for the zerkers, would that not affect my battleforged chart? 2hq and 3troops gets me that thing with the most CP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/285762-the-murderers-call-a-night-lords-community/page/144/#findComment-4831914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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