Rain Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 This actually seems very plausible, and I'm pretty sure this will happen. The problem is that "changed by 10,000 years of warp exposure" usually means either a.) random or b.) overpriced. I would gladly just take the loyalist versions of vehicles with the PotMS renamed to Infernal Device. I don't want tentacles and warp exposure and all that other hooplah, I just want stuff that makes my Legion warband feel like a Legion warband. And that to me isn't more fleshy bits, it's ancient Heresy era technology that later founding thinbloods only hear of in hushed tones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3645253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 This actually seems very plausible, and I'm pretty sure this will happen. The problem is that "changed by 10,000 years of warp exposure" usually means either a.) random or b.) overpriced. I would gladly just take the loyalist versions of vehicles with the PotMS renamed to Infernal Device. I don't want tentacles and warp exposure and all that other hooplah, I just want stuff that makes my Legion warband feel like a Legion warband. And that to me isn't more fleshy bits, it's ancient Heresy era technology that later founding thinbloods only hear of in hushed tones. Yeah I agree. If time moves slowly in the Warp, why can't CSM warbands have access to some of the older stuff? For some warbands the Siege of Terra was just a few hundred years ago. I bought a Heavy Conversion Beamer for my Decimator a while ago, for the sole reason that it feels like old Crusade tech, and Chaos warbands really need some more of these weird and wonderful contraptions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3645465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggnuggath Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I wonder if Forge World will gain more acceptance now that Vendettas, Griffons and Colossus are likely to be Forge World only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3646463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Just saw the Anvillus pattern dreadclaw rules in the HH3 book. All in All it pretty much the same rules has the Kharybdis, except for the Inertial dampening system of course... It has the Heat blast, Heat blast ram and Heat blast Deep Strike rules, Drop Pod assault rule also. The down side is that when a Anvillus DC comes into play with DS, its in hover mode, now to be safe you can still zoom out if you wish, and on the next turn you can go up in altitude. Units coming from a DC in DS still can't assault the same turn. Profile is the same as the old DC, with assault ramp, frag Launchers, but the points cost goes up to 100 because of the addition of the Heatblast rules and the Drop pod assault rule. Now i dunno if it will be identicale in the IA 13 book, but if it is , you know what to expect. its not bad realy, but even so an extra 15pts for that blast rules..., rather would have stayed in 80's points and no blast, but hey... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's even worse than it used to be, a complete waste of time as a delivery system, and not worth it as an empty blast box. I had hoped we might see a fix, but this is pointless. And if the inertial dampening system is what let the kharybdis reduce scatter to avoid mishap, then worse than pointless, that would make it literally our worst available option. Possessed would be a better use of your points. Never take it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 how forgeworld manages to still design ways to make Dreadclaws WORSE is one of the great mysteries of our time.... I mean how hard would it be to make it just a damned drop pod, and then give it a special rule where you can get back in and it can fly off...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 how forgeworld manages to still design ways to make Dreadclaws WORSE is one of the great mysteries of our time.... I mean how hard would it be to make it just a damned drop pod, and then give it a special rule where you can get back in and it can fly off...... When the loyalists develop one and we get a hand me down that isn't terrible, and will take two more editions to finally be superior to theirs without any good upgrade options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'll believe it when I see the rules for myself... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It would be awesome if we get relic Sicarian rules. My god I would hang the skulls of dead Eldar all over that thing and laugh as it murders my friend's grav tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3650710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 That pic, rofl....I would nearly put money on us getting a Sicaran, and you better believe it will be glorious to behold. I used mine, for a tournament (as a Relic for BA) and it is a righteous vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 ^One of the guys at our club uses one regularly, it is indeed awesome in every way. Plenty of dakka. I can't wait for this book! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 How do you guys who have them (or have seen them used) like to upgrade the Sicaran? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Dude at our local club upgraded with Heavy Bolter sponsons at first but found them better bog standard pt for pt, they have a HB as standard on the hull too? The main gun is awesome for the cost. He plays Blood Angels btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Can I just say, it looks awesome as well, it really does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Dude at our local club upgraded with Heavy Bolter sponsons at first but found them better bog standard pt for pt, they have a HB as standard on the hull too? The main gun is awesome for the cost. He plays Blood Angels btw. I set mine up with HB, as I wanted it to be filling the same role, but better, as a Baal Pred. I'm not a massive fan of Lascannon Sponsons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3651519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Just to confirm it's true. Got it from Alan Bligh himself :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Just to confirm it's true. Got it from Alan Bligh himself :D *fangasm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Can you clarify which part is true? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's basically the twin sister to IA2: 2nd ed. It's going to contain everything usable by the traitor legions from the HH era tanks such as spartan and storm eagle to likely extra daemon engines like the decimator and brass scorpions. It will also contain a 6th ed updated list for a lost and the damned army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's basically the twin sister to IA2: 2nd ed. It's going to contain everything usable by the traitor legions from the HH era tanks such as spartan and storm eagle to likely extra daemon engines like the decimator and brass scorpions. It will also contain a 6th ed updated list for a lost and the damned army I don't like the fact that i can only like your post once! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I went all fanboy when I was told as well. Bit sad I'll never get to try it all out however since I'm keeping my Night Lords within the Legion rules found in the Istvaan Trilogy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 this is positive :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 this is positive :) My bank balance won't be... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 It's basically the twin sister to IA2: 2nd ed. It's going to contain everything usable by the traitor legions from the HH era tanks such as spartan and storm eagle to likely extra daemon engines like the decimator and brass scorpions. It will also contain a 6th ed updated list for a lost and the damned army http://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Happy_gif.gif Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I ran a Chaos Contemptor (Tzeentch) this past weekend, and it rocked face all day long with AV13, and 4++ against glances with the reroll. Give me a usable pod, and its glory will be unimaginable! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289042-ia-13-warmachines-of-the-lost-and-the-damned/page/3/#findComment-3652512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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