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[Panzer]

Yeah it would be pretty weird in 40k, but you could always explain it by time travel shenanigans at the end of the Horus Heresy. The warp is weird like that. ^^

[Khornestar]

Blasted time travel, can explain away anything!

 

I say paint your dudes however you want. Personally, I'm not a fan of the 30k scheme. Red and brass, no need for me to get creative. But if that inferior scheme (:P) is what floats your boat, then go for it. You don't need to justify :cuss .

[Panzer]

Yeah I wouldn't ever go with the time travel explanation if there's a different way to explain things. :D

 

And right, you can paint your guys however you want. It'd just be hard to justify that color scheme for World Eaters in 40k if you want to stay fluffy.

I mean the official explanation why World Eaters have red armor now is because it's from all the blood and they never bothered to clean their armor....it doesn't make much sense at all but if we go with that explanation it'd mean that your guys would actually take their time to clean their armor after each slaughter. :D

You don't need to justify .

You 'need' to justify everything if you actually care about the fluff tho. :P

[Gaz Taylor]

 

Are there any World Eaters warbands in the 41s millennium what would/could still bear the white and blue colors from the HH? Do you think it would look weird/not fluffy to have WE units in both their HH White and Blue and Red WEs in the same army? 

 

My take on this as I am thinking about World Eaters as one of the many hobby projects I want to do....

 

Would there be any Warbands in the current timeline with the White and Blue Horus Heresy scheme?

Yes I think there would be. With the splintering of the Legion, it is fully feasible to think that there would be some Warbands that while bloodthirsty, would still operate in a Military fashion and take pride in their legion colours. Not all of them would do this, but I can see a few. Its the same reasoning you can use for having Chaos Space Marines armed with Bolters or Havocs. They all want to kill and claim skulls but some still have enough control to operate in their unit roles rather than succumbing to the Butcher's Nails and the call of Khorne.

 

Do I think it would be weird to have a mixed scheme (Blue/White and some guys in red)?

No. You can reason this with the warband transitioning to full on Khorne Berzerker mode. Some of them are still sort of in control, whilst others can't do that and just want to slaughter everything in sight.

 

I think the key thing to remember is that this is your hobby, so if this is something you want to do, you can do it. 

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

Don't forget either that a pretty early bit of fluff had many World Eaters have a piece of their armor in the original legion colors...so I see nothing unfluffy about it. Besides, they're Chaos Marines- lack of uniformity goes with the territory.

[THUNDERFISTS]

As a small aside from the above, I'm planning on running the Prime Super Cool Marines with WEs geneseed, adopting the original color scheme and everything. Cawl insisting on using the geneseed from every legion makes it fit perfectly fluff-wise. 

[Gaz Taylor]

As a small aside from the above, I'm planning on running the Prime Super Cool Marines with WEs geneseed, adopting the original color scheme and everything. Cawl insisting on using the geneseed from every legion makes it fit perfectly fluff-wise. 

This is my plan but with another Legion. I have a load of MKIV armour for my World Eaters if I chose that path ;) 

[Iron Sage]

Here you go guys! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/legion-focus-world-eaters-aug-3gw-homepage-post-2/

[Khornestar]

Yeah I wouldn't ever go with the time travel explanation if there's a different way to explain things. :D

 

And right, you can paint your guys however you want. It'd just be hard to justify that color scheme for World Eaters in 40k if you want to stay fluffy.

I mean the official explanation why World Eaters have red armor now is because it's from all the blood and they never bothered to clean their armor....it doesn't make much sense at all but if we go with that explanation it'd mean that your guys would actually take their time to clean their armor after each slaughter. :D

 

You don't need to justify :cuss .

 

You 'need' to justify everything if you actually care about the fluff tho. :P

Difference of opinion, but I'd say no, you really don't. The game universe is vastly bigger and more diverse than what GW has written about - by design. A Warband of veterans of the long war never wanted to change their color scheme, and anyone who dared to chastise them for this decision had their cranium heaped on the skull throne. Easy, done.

[Blackheart1223]

Then there is the Slaugtherkin. They are basically the 30K scheme with red instead of blue.

[Khornestar]

Here you go guys! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/legion-focus-world-eaters-aug-3gw-homepage-post-2/

Not bad! Extra attack on the charge confirmed, which is gonna rock for any unit that can utilize it. Losing the extra attack for Taking a gun-arm with dreads can now be mitigated on the charge. So many attacks all over the place. And the collar no longer blows up once you deny the witch, as in 7th. Looks like I can have my anti-psyker character after all.

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

Oh man take a dual CCW chainclaw Contemptor with our legion trait and burn the attack twice strategem on him on the charge...that's a dead...everything short of a titan...?

 

EDIT: I'm dumb, only works on infantry and bikes...ah well

Edited August 3, 2017 by OPTIMVSCHRISTVS

[Hathis]

My worldeaters of the VI echelon keep't there white/blue colour.

[Chaos Lord Tom]

Seems really great, Khârn will be a true carnage snowball....

 

On a side note, does anyone know a non expensive way of building some CA/CS zerkers ? My plan was to start with some BoP MKIII, buy some CS arms on ebay from the zerker kit (5 eur for 10 arms, not bad) and add some CA from anvil industries (it's getting pricey 7£ for 12 CA and 3£ for 10 arms), add delivery costs of 7 eur total and the original price of the BoP squad (20 eur). The 10 zerker squad is then 44 eur. Adding the few bucks I paid for an ebay we upgrade kit, I'll be well over 50 eur. That's a damn money sink for a bad ass unit.

[Khornestar]

I don't know what CA or CS stand for.

 

-edit-

 

Wait, I'm a dummy. Chainaxe, chainsword. I like the raptor weapons for the chainswords, but I wouldn't call them cheap. The chainaxes from FW are my favorite, but even less affordable. Shoot, even 3rd party axes are expensive when you're kitting out 40+ Berzerkers... dunno if there's a satisfactory and "legal" answer, hint hint. ;)

Edited August 3, 2017 by Juggernut

[Gaz Taylor]

Here you go guys! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/03/legion-focus-world-eaters-aug-3gw-homepage-post-2/

What I quite like is that it makes Bolter Marines quite interesting now. Yes Berzerkers are pure juggernauts of hate, but having units of Bolter Marines to sit on objectives and be able to provide a nice counter punch is quite nice. Also sounds like it effects everything with the World Eater keyword, so quite amusing to see all the tanks gaining an extra attack or the Heldrake!

 

 

Seems really great, Khârn will be a true carnage snowball....

 

On a side note, does anyone know a non expensive way of building some CA/CS zerkers ? My plan was to start with some BoP MKIII, buy some CS arms on ebay from the zerker kit (5 eur for 10 arms, not bad) and add some CA from anvil industries (it's getting pricey 7£ for 12 CA and 3£ for 10 arms), add delivery costs of 7 eur total and the original price of the BoP squad (20 eur). The 10 zerker squad is then 44 eur. Adding the few bucks I paid for an ebay we upgrade kit, I'll be well over 50 eur. That's a damn money sink for a bad ass unit.

I would say either a bits site or Forgeworld. Either way it's not going to be cheap but depends on if that is a major issue or not. Personally I would probably buy a Khorne Berzerker box from a discount seller as you will have loads of bits then. Even using Forgeworld thats around £30ish (£12 for Axes and £20ish for Berzerkers) but depends on what you want to do.

[Prot]

I have probably 20-30 Zerkers of various generations.

 

I was one of the fools who bought tons of those little FW resin axes that are brittle and snap like nothing. They look good but I do not recommend them. I had to drill little holes in fists, and sharpen the axe handles and use green stuff + super glue to get them to stick. What a task this was.

 

Now I look at my mix of axes + chainswords and some with pistols, and it's become quite awkward to use in game (I'm always counting how many of each I have in a fightphase since the chainsword attack is user default.)

 

I still have about 10 WE forgeworld chest pieces left... but I sure wish GW would make Chaos upgrade blisters like the do with loyalists.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

I'm actually planning on using my 30k World Eaters for 40k World Eaters since we're going to have some fun rules this edition.

Blasted time travel, can explain away anything!

I say paint your dudes however you want. Personally, I'm not a fan of the 30k scheme. Red and brass, no need for me to get creative. But if that inferior scheme () is what floats your boat, then go for it. You don't need to justify .

 

But Blood and gore shows up so much better on the white armor than it does the red

As a small aside from the above, I'm planning on running the Prime Super Cool Marines with WEs geneseed, adopting the original color scheme and everything. Cawl insisting on using the geneseed from every legion makes it fit perfectly fluff-wise. 

What would be really awesome is if you painted them up in the War Hounds colors and gave them War Hounds iconography. If I didn't have so many armies I'd be tempted to do it myself. 


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Has anyone considered the possibilities of having 2 units of 10 Bezerkers (or 1x20) in a Spartan with Khârn?? That is everything I wanted to do with my KDK that I couldn't because FW/GW refused to let us take a Spartan or Khârn. I'm super excited for this codex to drop right now. 

Edited August 3, 2017 by Bloody Legionnaire

[Panzer]

Also sounds like it effects everything with the World Eater keyword, so quite amusing to see all the tanks gaining an extra attack or the Heldrake!

Not really. Legion traits only apply to infantry, bikes and helbrutes.

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

Has anyone considered the possibilities of having 2 units of 10 Bezerkers (or 1x20) in a Spartan with Khârn?? That is everything I wanted to do with my KDK that I couldn't because FW/GW refused to let us take a Spartan or Khârn. I'm super excited for this codex to drop right now.

I've done it in both the 8th games I've played so far and it was extremely effective. Stuck a Dark Apostle there too. Very useful if you want to drop a 10 man squad near one target then take the other squad to another, which did I did end up doing in one instance.

[Berzerker88]

Welp, it's confirmed then.

 

http://i.imgur.com/kI3YdXD.jpg

 

Death to the witch.

 

EDIT: Khorne dammit.

Edited August 3, 2017 by Berzerker88

[Panzer]

Welp, it's confirmed then:

 

Please try again.

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

Oh man take a dual CCW chainclaw Contemptor with our legion trait and burn the attack twice strategem on him on the charge...that's a dead...everything short of a titan...?

 

EDIT: I'm dumb, only works on infantry and bikes...ah well

Still, the WE Chainclaw Contemptor will get yet another attack on the charge and can be targeted by the anti-Psyker Stratagem.

 

Also, looks like bikers might be a nice answer to Conscripts. 10 man squad with a Lord or Prince behind them moves up, throws 40 shots at them, kills roughly 17-18, and then finishes with a charge rerolled via Icon of Wrath, getting an extra attack because World Eaters. The rest of the typical 30 man blob will be completely splattered. Focus your other anti-infantry shooting on the second blob that people usually take. Then the Bikers become a big fire magnet as the rest of your army closes. Multi-charging optional.

[Kinstryfe]

Do I think it would be weird to have a mixed scheme (Blue/White and some guys in red)?

 

Not at all. Vets wear one and new recruits another. Maybe former legion members wear legion colors, new war and recruits who weren't WE wear red. Or maybe your army is multiple warbands in one, with your warlord and his followers in one color and another character and his retinue in the other. Or maybe the saner members kept it white, and as they fall further into berserker mode their armour starts to change. CSM Bolter units or Havoks in white and blue, berzerkers in red as fully devoted khornites. There's a ton of ways you could justify the mixup in colors :)

[Bloody Legionnaire]

Random questions for the masses. What size is the new Khârn model? I noticed he doesn't look that small on a 40mm base. Is the model closer to the larger marines like TS, DW and MKIII?