XIII - How I stopped worrying...Painting Started! ^_^

[Monstra Sumus]

Hey fella,

There's a real solid set of ideas here, some quite similar to what I have planned for an Ultra force when they get around to dropping the models so I approve heartily of it. A Chapter born of retribution always makes for a tragic saga. I think the anti-Word Bearer is a fantastic idea and is a solid foundation for the force. Expanding on Kor'Vesh's post, their name could be their meaning, not necessarily a reflection of the pre-split Word Bearers spreading the Imperial Truth but more them being used by the Ultramarines command as a tool to stamp out rebellion, they are the idea made real to deal with the notion of free thinking from the yoke of the Imperium. Entire sectors had to be brought back into 'compliance' and we know it wouldn't have very well been at the end of a diplomatic talk. They could be the force sent in to crush rebellion against Ultramar, to hunt down Word Bearers in the surrounding sectors and ruthlessly destroy them and all their associates as a message to the populace. Just an idea to help shape this into the fantastic blog I know it'll be.

I think the Blue with a solid white shoulder and arm is distinct enough to show divergence from their parent Legion but still show they are Ultramarines at their core. If you can't decide on a colour scheme, paint up some test models in the current choice of schemes you have and see which one you like? The symbol is good, it conveys a good image. An idea (feel free to disregard everything I say :p) I had was if you want to go with a variation of the symbol, keep the Amego and have an obscure icon for the meaning of Truth in place of the tiny alpha symbol. A quick google search of Symbol of Truth bring up a lot of source materiel.

I'm more than happy to waffle on

[Aqui]

So I've just been reading through and enjoying this thread - I realise I'm very late to the party, but I had an idea on a possible background angle for this chapter.

Tieing in with your link to Calth, hatred of the word bearers, the notion of planting ideas, and the pale alternate armour colour...

... What if the Inceptors were a chapter founded on the principal of propagating the imperial truth in the scouring era - their name would signify their aim of placing this idea on the worlds they conquer. The could see themselves as fulfilling the original mission of the word bearers, or imperial heralds, and loathe them for their fall and desecration of ultramar. You could replace your 'dirty white' with a pale grey, like the original world bearers colour, and have a crusading like theme - essentially questing to crush the word bearers and their influence on the Galaxy.

What is also cool with this theme is that their ideology - propagating the emperor's imperial truth - would put them at increasing odd with the imperium with the rise of the imperial cult post-heresy. It could be pretty fun to work with, especially with a subsequent 40k compatible army.

Obv. I'm a bit late with this, and it might be nonsense. But I thought I'd put the idea out there!

Good luck with the project .

Apologies Brother for not replying sooner. I've been reliant on mobile devices lately and I missed it

Hey fella,

There's a real solid set of ideas here, some quite similar to what I have planned for an Ultra force when they get around to dropping the models so I approve heartily of it. A Chapter born of retribution always makes for a tragic saga. I think the anti-Word Bearer is a fantastic idea and is a solid foundation for the force. Expanding on Kor'Vesh's post, their name could be their meaning, not necessarily a reflection of the pre-split Word Bearers spreading the Imperial Truth but more them being used by the Ultramarines command as a tool to stamp out rebellion, they are the idea made real to deal with the notion of free thinking from the yoke of the Imperium. Entire sectors had to be brought back into 'compliance' and we know it wouldn't have very well been at the end of a diplomatic talk. They could be the force sent in to crush rebellion against Ultramar, to hunt down Word Bearers in the surrounding sectors and ruthlessly destroy them and all their associates as a message to the populace. Just an idea to help shape this into the fantastic blog I know it'll be.

I think the Blue with a solid white shoulder and arm is distinct enough to show divergence from their parent Legion but still show they are Ultramarines at their core. If you can't decide on a colour scheme, paint up some test models in the current choice of schemes you have and see which one you like? The symbol is good, it conveys a good image. An idea (feel free to disregard everything I say ) I had was if you want to go with a variation of the symbol, keep the Amego and have an obscure icon for the meaning of Truth in place of the tiny alpha symbol. A quick google search of Symbol of Truth bring up a lot of source materiel.

I'm more than happy to waffle on

That idea is very cool I'll be drawing up an outline over the next few days and I think that that is a very good base to start with. As for the Chapter symbol, I'm still looking out for ideas, but for now the current one is the one I'm going with. If anyone has any other ideas, then I will appreciate any forthcoming

Thank you both!

[Legatus]

Since "Alpharius" is the one who put Guilliman in his current predicament, what if the Inceptors Veterans/Specialists were also Alpha Legion Hunters? Trying to enact vengeance upon the Hydra spawn that so wounded their Primarch?

 

 

Guilliman was wounded by Fulgrim, not Alpharius.

[Slips]

Thanks for the correction. I must have misremembered that part...

[Hyaenidae]

For someone who stopped worrying, I'm seeing a definitive lack of models in this thread....   :P

[Aqui]

They're inbound (a Mark VII Sergeant made from bitz, Mark VII plastic Captain, the new one with the snazzy helm although I'm not sure if Grav weapons feature in 30K lists and I've ordered the bitz for a mark VI FW model, with a few Mark II bitz). The bulk of my army will be bought early next year along with at least the first HH book (hopefully the bundle with all three books and the condensed lists)

Assuming I don't oversleep or some other distraction gets in the way, I'll have at least one done later today (it's nearly 1am here at the moment and my catalepsian node is playing up. Again )

[TDF]

Y'know, seeing the lower case Alpha inside the Agemo made me think about something.

Since "Alpharius" is the one who put Guilliman in his current predicament, what if the Inceptors Veterans/Specialists were also Alpha Legion Hunters? Trying to enact vengeance upon the Hydra spawn that so wounded their Primarch?

Though would mostly be a Scouring thing, I think...

I didn't know that Alpharius had any dealings with the XIII overt or otherwise. I'll have to look into it I'm still looking into the Inceptors having a "seek and destroy" Crusade against the XVII to ultimately end the Mark of Calth (which I'm lead to believe is still counting in the 40th Millennium)

I thought it was Fulgrim who fatally wounded Guilliman? The Alpharius-Guilliman battle was the one where Alpharius is claimed to have been killed by Guilliman, but which people increasingly believe was faked and it was actual a XX legion civil-war.

[Kol Saresk]

Y'know, seeing the lower case Alpha inside the Agemo made me think about something.

Since "Alpharius" is the one who put Guilliman in his current predicament, what if the Inceptors Veterans/Specialists were also Alpha Legion Hunters? Trying to enact vengeance upon the Hydra spawn that so wounded their Primarch?

Though would mostly be a Scouring thing, I think...

I didn't know that Alpharius had any dealings with the XIII overt or otherwise. I'll have to look into it I'm still looking into the Inceptors having a "seek and destroy" Crusade against the XVII to ultimately end the Mark of Calth (which I'm lead to believe is still counting in the 40th Millennium)

I thought it was Fulgrim who fatally wounded Guilliman? The Alpharius-Guilliman battle was the one where Alpharius is claimed to have been killed by Guilliman, but which people increasingly believe was faked and it was actual a XX legion civil-war.

Pretty much.

[Aqui]

I managed to get a little painting done, but the pictures are a little pants due to not having a decent light box. He isn't finished either, but it's a start It's also the scheme that the Chapter eventually take on in the 41st Millennium:

[Aqui]

It's been a lot longer than I'd have liked, but I thought it about time I posted something on where I am currently. I've accumulated a few items that will give me a start.

In the pictures:

Betrayer book (ebay buy and in very good condition, only a small scratch on the back of the book)

Mark IV and Mark VI demi squads with mark appropriate bolters variants

Veteran Contemptor Dreadnought

Deredeo Dreadnought

The Mark IV and Mark VI will be the first squad, signifying the move to the latter mark, but still utilising the former. I'm using the Betrayer book to get an outline for my army, but the final layout will depend on Book V: Calth(?)

I've been looking at the FW site for ideas on what HQ to get first. I'm favouring either:

Legion Prators

Or

Mark IV Command set

I like both sets, but I want something a little unique, so I'm scouring various sites to try to see how the kits break down in individual bits (arms, head, torso etc).

I've also decided to try to freehand a banner, which means working out what I want on it. Calth will feature on there heavily, but also hints (subtle or otherwise) on the eventual Inceptors too.

I'm any case, I hope to get something painted sooner than later

In the mean time, I'm loving reading the Betrayer book. Fantastic read so far!

[Daemon2027]

I love that feeling when a haul arrives. Glad to see you still going with this.

[Aqui]

I love that feeling when a haul arrives. Glad to see you still going with this.

I am as well. I did the usual thing of getting distracted with too many armies and decided (at the time) to put this one on the backburner. That is until I saw the Eddy... I also decided to get the Betrayer book because the price I managed to get it at was too good to pass up.

I just need to get enough time away from work and other mundane distractions to get started properly...

[Slips]

IIRC, the Command Squad is Head, Arms, Legs, Shoulders and Backpack all separate. Preator set should be the same; though I think the Terminator Preator is chest and legs together.

[Aqui]

IIRC, the Command Squad is Head, Arms, Legs, Shoulders and Backpack all separate. Preator set should be the same; though I think the Terminator Preator is chest and legs together.

Thank you

I was rather hoping that the Command squad was like that. It gives me a few ideas...

[Reyner]

Looks like a good haul! Slips is right about the Praetors too apart from the power armoured Praetor is also legs and chest as a single piece :) 

[marine7312000]

The power armor Praetor is torso and legs together as well. Sword is separate from arm, pistol is attached.  The head is only from the chin up.

[GhostMalone]

This thread needs more ultras

[Jamafore]

My only thing about the scheme is it screams Marines Errant to me.....Maybe just keep the arm and maybe helm white? Just my thoughts

[Aqui]

My only thing about the scheme is it screams Marines Errant to me.....Maybe just keep the arm and maybe helm white? Just my thoughts

I had intended to reply to this, but quite a lot has happened lately, so apologies for not doing so sooner

I keep seeing Marines Errant when I look at that scheme too. Whilst I love that Chapter, I'd like a scheme that is quite distinctive. I'm considering changing the white to grey, but I'm not sure how that'd look.

I figured a darker grey might be suitable.

I also went to Salute today and got:

I was thinking of perhaps converting the Alpha Legion and Iron Warrior characters, but as they're Limited Edition, I might keep them for my (one day, possibly, if I stop procrastinating and get it done, maybe...) I - XX Legion Diorama. I'll have to think about it.

Anyway, to recap I now have:

Five Mark III Marines

Five Mark IV Marines

Five Mark IV Marines

One Deredeo "Eddy" Dreadnought

One Veteran Contemptor Dreadnought

I'm still mulling over HQ options. In my own mind, I think it'd be better to get a model to be a Centurion first and work up to getting a Praetor. Next month, I hope to go back to GWHQ (not the re-opening unfortunately ) and get some appropriate models as well as Guilliman himself

[Aqui]

After a day or so to consider the Chapter's background, I think I've got a few things more concrete

Here is the very first group of Marines I've started to assemble. Their specific background will be posted when they've come along a little...

However, a little bit on the Inceptors themselves.

"After He witnessed the atrocities brought to Calth, our Father's demeanour hardened. His heart had been stuck, ran through with the bitterest of swords. Calth had been an ill wound, one that would never fully heal. But the bearer of that sword, He who had been His brother , He would be the source of our own hatred. We had all lost brothers, at Calth, at Nuceria, but that one man, if you could call a Demi-God, as mad as he was, such a thing, He was the glue that bound us together. The irony was not lost. It was not an easy transition, one thousand brothers who were as strangers, now given a new purpose, even if we gave it to ourselves.

"We would be the enders of the Mark. We would become the end of the Word Bearers."

- From the personal log of Semel Talio, First Chapter Master of the Inceptors Chapter.

The Inceptors Chapter was raised using Marines from shattered Legion Chapters; Survivors of Calth and Nuceria, amongst others. Most selected to become part of this new Chapter were morose, fatalistic, their experiences had weakened their effectiveness on the battlefield to such an extent that Guilliman himself decided to oversee its creation. He could see the anger seething in his sons hearts, but the also the impotence to put that hatred to good use. Looking through thousands of accounts he saw of one Marine, a Sergeant called Semel Talio who had potential, one who could reforge the misfits within the Legion, to lead those who had become lost and give them a new direction...

"What do you think the Primarch wants with us?"

Talio looked at his cohort through the corner of his eye. Both wore Mark IV armour, battered, his own barely functioning. After his audience with his Lord, he would finally stop putting off reporting to the Adeptus Mechanicus for fitting to the new Mark VI armour. He felt uncomfortable about that. The armour he wore was given to him from new, the only wearer and it was literally falling off him. The machine spirit was ornery, but he was used to its ways. It deserved far better.

"I have no clue, brother." he didn't. His service record was good, not especially brilliant compared to others. He had met Aeonid Thiel once, a true legend within the rank and file who had served on Calth, and his record was a footnote in comparison.

Still. No point on dwelling on the past.

The summons was given directly from Guilliman himself, the auth-codes were not in doubt. He had checked them five times, and asked his current compatriot to check them as well.

Talio's vox chimed, seeming so loud after a long wait at full attention before His quarters.

"Enter." the word was kindly, but with a weariness he had come to know very well. Both Marines fell in step and entered His chambers.

More to come

[Reyner]

Sounds good so far, glad you are working on these guys again :) I might do a thread for my Ultramarines when I have book 5 ... Mine are proto-Aurora Chapter!

[Olis]

Good to see things have moved onto the physical stage, brother. Are you going to give them a specific type of bolter?

[Aqui]

Good to see things have moved onto the physical stage, brother. Are you going to give them a specific type of bolter?

I got Phobos and Umbra pattern ones (I was told that they are what were used around that time ). I bought Macragge blue today, so once I've got more models ready, they'll get a base coat

[Olis]

Good to see things have moved onto the physical stage, brother. Are you going to give them a specific type of bolter?

I got Phobos and Umbra pattern ones (I was told that they are what were used around that time ). I bought Macragge blue today, so once I've got more models ready, they'll get a base coat

To me, I always associate Maximus plate with Tigrus pattern bolters, rather than Umbra or Phobos. That said, the Umbra pattern does have a wonderfully retro 'feel' to them. ^_^

[Armond]

Hey there fellow son of Guilliman, looks like a very promising project! I look forward to updates!!!