Darnok Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Heretic Astartes Focus: Iron Warriors It seems like the Warsmith and Warpsmith are stuck with their old models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Heretic Astartes Focus: Iron Warriors It seems like the Warsmith and Warpsmith are stuck with their old models. So just a reprint of the Codex with a rather useless CP heavy ability.... THANKS GW Custodian Athiair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Heretic Astartes Focus: Iron Warriors It seems like the Warsmith and Warpsmith are stuck with their old models. So just a reprint of the Codex with a rather useless CP heavy ability.... THANKS GW Huh? You'll get the rules for all the new units in there as well as the special detachments and warlord traits and such? Sonoftherubric21 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Special Detachments and assigned warlord traits are only in Vigilus as far as I know. So you won't get these with the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I guess I was hoping for more of an effort from GW on this release with the rules. This feels like they don't have enough time and manpower to really get these projects done right. At least for me, you can tell the releases that have gotten the time and love devoted to them. I don't think it is the dev team going we don't like this game but more of an upper management issue of X - team member has this amount of time to get X project done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Special Detachments and assigned warlord traits are only in Vigilus as far as I know. So you won't get these with the codex. If you wouldn't, then there would be no meaning behind this graphic: Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Well, I guess they're thinking that new chaos players won't need these additional rules to get started. In any case their comments on Facebook - especially in the comments section for Sunday's and yesterday's reveal - seemed to be pretty clear in this matter. Only the new datasheets from Vigilus will be in the codex, nothing else. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Heretic Astartes Focus: Iron Warriors It seems like the Warsmith and Warpsmith are stuck with their old models. So just a reprint of the Codex with a rather useless CP heavy ability.... THANKS GW Huh? You'll get the rules for all the new units in there as well as the special detachments and warlord traits and such? No you won't - they are only in Vigilus. GW have said so on Facebook. The new Codex does contain the new datasheets and updated CA points values, but does not contain any of the special detachments/warlord traits, etc. Hey (name removed) - ok, so the new Codex has the new datasheets in it. If you want the extra renegade stuff, the black legion bits and the extra cool things, you need Vigilus Ablaze. Arganias 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnok Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The new Codex does contain the new datasheets and updated CA points values, but does not contain any of the special detachments/warlord traits, etc. Hey (name removed) - ok, so the new Codex has the new datasheets in it. If you want the extra renegade stuff, the black legion bits and the extra cool things, you need Vigilus Ablaze. Now this is disappointing. I was not interested in the BL rules, and can likely live without the Renegades and "extras", it is still annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5279845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I'm checking in with the pros as IW is a secondary army for me and I wanted some feedback. When I started playing CSM 3.5 IW was my top pick but my local gaming group pushed me away from them as they were seen as "cheeses" or hyper competitive seeing that IW had just swept some major GTs if my memory is working correctly. I went with GD instead picking one of the lesser competitive legions but it had a good following with a good online community. After reading Storm of Iron in 5th I was hooked on IW and with the extreme blandness of the Gav codex and the nature of 5th being a competitive friendly environment I saw no reason to not start IW as my secondary CSM fun and somewhat fluffy army. I had a ton of old plastic CSM troops that I started upgrading with the IW metal conversion kits. Now that those IW GW conversion kits are gone what do you all use to get the logos on the shoulders? I was considering the 3D printed icons from shape way as I had luck getting good Maltese crosses for my BT. Also I always played with a unit of 10 Terminators in my IW lists when playing 2k, are terminators lore appropriate to IW still? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5280179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Chaos Terminators are lore appropriate for every Chaos army. balordazul, MegaVolt87 and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5280215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 More information desired on Devastation battery effect on Havocs. If it works like Endless Cacophany, an happy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5280347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Anyone able to help me with some naming of warbands, and hosts within that warband? Finally going to start my Iron Warrior army, thanks to Shadowspear. So I'm thinking of running a warband composed of Three Hosts. 1. Your standard Iron Warriors, tanks, havocs, chaos space marines 2. Deamonkin, bringing the deamon engines to the siege. 3. Assault troops, who are the troops sent into the breaches during the siege. There will obviously some overlap between the hosts, but I'm struggling to name them, and the Warband as a whole. I've written down some initial proposed ideas, was wondering if others had thoughts. So following the same order as above. 1. Host of Tempered Iron 2. Beasts of Blackened Iron 3. Hounds of Burning Iron Any thoughts on better nouns/adjectives for the relevant hosts? Obviously want to avoid literally using the word "Host" for group #1. And I could do with more ideas. Also had an idea to round out the #4 (I mean they are the Fourth legion after all), I also have plans for the Lord of Transcended Iron as a Deamon Prince who has overall command of the warband. Speaking of which, have literally no name for the Warband as a whole either - any help?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5281605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Warband: The Fel-Forged "The Tempered" "The Soulburnt" "The Hellwrought" Marqol and Custodian Athiair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5281723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The Infernal Factory The Hardened Hammer The Cruelest Flame The Quenching Tongs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5282093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 [...] The Hardened Hammer [...] That totally sounds like a Slaanesh worshipping warband of Iron Warriors :lol: MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5282098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 [...] The Hardened Hammer [...] That totally sounds like a Slaanesh worshipping warband of Iron Warriors The old school Iron Warriors were Slaaneshi so it totally works :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5282117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 So we now have T5 move and shoot Havocs That's rather handy :) I've got a nice unit of Lascannons ready to roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5282893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 So we now have T5 move and shoot Havocs That's rather handy I've got a nice unit of Lascannons ready to roll. I heard rumour of Thunder Hammer for Lord & Chosen as well, is this real? I'm just catch up with everything. Also today community post has a bit on Havoc & a Daemonic Engine detachment https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/23/23rd-mar-heretic-astartes-focus-the-emperors-childrengw-homepage-post-1/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=40K&utm_content=40KEmperorsChildrenArticleMar23&fbclid=IwAR2OSCwfNJam_y9r1v_s2hcaUoKa6uzyKhqMV5fzHayqyjbAlARnpsnbyhc Kytan, Lord of Skulls & Decimator anyone.... Hellrender 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5282917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'm super excited for these old school looking havocs. Would have been nice for a shoulder mounted heavy bolter, but you can't have everything. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5284647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardaric Vaanes Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 More information desired on Devastation battery effect on Havocs. If it works like Endless Cacophany, an happy Do you reckon we'll be able to stack Endless Cacophany with Devastation Battery? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5284661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) If you mean the reroll 1s against vehicles WT, yes. If you mean the Punishing Volley strat, then no. Cacophony is played in your Shooting Phase, Volley is played in the enemy Movement Phase. Edited March 26, 2019 by Iron Father Ferrum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5284673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Never was a real fan of daemon engines, I am coming around though. Hoping I am strong enough to resist wallet decimation on the FW daemon engines for this new stuff..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5285198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Never was a real fan of daemon engines, I am coming around though. Hoping I am strong enough to resist wallet decimation on the FW daemon engines for this new stuff..... If you get away with mere wallet decimation, consider yourself lucky! Mine's getting nuked from orbit (it's the only way I can be sure to get them all). MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5285210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 So fellow warsmiths how are we feeling about abbadon? I’m looking at swapping a DP with IW warlord trait for abbadon? I’ll grab his model just because but I’m interested if anyone thinks he has any play in an IW army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/65/#findComment-5285906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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