Iron Father Ferrum Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 [...] These look more like IW traitor guard in service to the IW to me - no less expandable than cultists, of course. Do you mean expendable? Because they don't strike me as particularly stretchy. :P I just realized the Fantastic Four are Chaos mutants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5325174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I get that, though that's exactly the reason why they don't look like cultists to me. These look more like IW traitor guard in service to the IW to me - no less expandable than cultists, of course. In any case, I am looking forward to what you are going to do with them! Yeah looking forward to getting these, as I was looking at GSC initially. Cultist or traitor guard are definitely equally worthless flesh to IW, however the traitor guard would be sightly better in outcome in attrition calculations, assuming manpower and logistics being equal to both flesh types. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5326162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Traitor Guard are better at holding ground where even Conscript level training improves defensive positions by a marginal amount. Or for psychological benefit when fighting other select Imperial forces. The moderate decrease in enemy morale at having to kill former comrades can be just enough to exploit a stalemate. Traitor Guard should not be employed against forces of the Ordo Hereticus as enemy efficiency actually increases in those circumstances. Cultists are best for mass assaults where losses mean nothing and beasts are unavailable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5327234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamIsCollapsing Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Colors question, what gold do you use for your Iron warriors ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5336458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Colors question, what gold do you use for your Iron warriors ? Well for me, super basic. Chaos black base, leadbelcher, hashut copper, heavy nuln oil wash then heavy argax wash (non gloss, though been thinking of changing to the gloss ones.). Thats just on the shoulder pad rims though, I am being less lazy with my brass, bronze and golds for my vehicles Linky in my sig, all my gold like this for my infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5336473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Colors question, what gold do you use for your Iron warriors ? Me personally, usually base with Leadbelcher spray, then just put a layer of Balthazaar Gold down over the top. Gentle Agrax wash, and on occassion a Hashput Copper edge highlight if I'm feeling frisky Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5336629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorbookworm Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Hashut Copper with a thin layer of Gehenna's Gold over the top for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5337055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hashut Copper with a thin layer of Gehenna's Gold over the top for me. That is what I was doing initially, it was just too bling in the end with my more muted overall colour scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5337441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uk_crow Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Fellow warsmiths I’ve built up a core of an Iron warriors force and was wondering what your thoughts are on how I should expand it! Currently got around 1000 points, built and painted: Winged DP with talons 5x csm, plasma gun 5x csm, plasma gun 5x csm, reaper CG 5x csm, reaper CG Rhino Rhino Havocs, 2x LC, 1x ML, 1x AC Havocs, 2x LC, 1x ML, 1x AC Look forward to hearing your ideas, looking for a relatively competitive list but still thematic. Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5338511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If you want to go traditional you could include a spear head of traitor guard with 3 bassies and a hq or personally I would add 1000 points of daemon engines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5338530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hi Iron Warrior fans! I really love the new Abaddon model and wanted to try mu hand at a conversion ever since it came out, so I build an Iron Warriors choas lord in terminator armour from it. The pictures aren't the best as I took them with my phone, and I still need to put him on his base (I took a 60mm base as I think the base from Abaddon is a bit too big for a regular chaos lord. Still, I hope you guys like him! sebs_evo7, Raztalin, Sn4k30r and 10 others 13 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5338686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 He's looking really good - the only part I'm not a fan of is the angle which he is holding the combi-weapon - if he held it straight so the bullets came straight down, IMHO it would look more natural. Other than that minor, quibbling point, though - the conversion and the paint job are fantastic. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5338706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just went through a good chunk of our lore and realized we have only gotten our biggest L's from Xenos instead of the Imperium. We seemed kinda unstoppable in Vigilus, until the Eldar steered all the ork kults of Speed in our direction to stop us. Also we seem well positioned to help our other CSM allies out to re-group there. Our faction feels pretty powerful in Dark Imperium, papa Perty sending out 1,000 separate armies, smashing up Imperial bastion sectors etc. I feel like we are actually valued in Abaddons wider strategies than ever before. Admittedly its not as much lore as others, but still significant enough that I am happy with it so far. sebs_evo7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 We just need a 40k perty model with his retinue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 We just need a 40k perty model with his retinue To be honest I'd just take an actual Iron Warriors character (as I'm sure would most of the legions in the codex) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 We just need a 40k perty model with his retinue To be honest I'd just take an actual Iron Warriors character (as I'm sure would most of the legions in the codex) Yeah, that's the dream, Demon Primarch papa Perty with oblit virus Iron Circle. Would be quite happy with some 40k named characters as well instead. I wouldn't complain if both happened though.... Custodian Athiair, Excessus and sebs_evo7 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 *drool* oblit Iron Circle... sebs_evo7 and Iron-Daemon Forge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Do you guys think GW would go the wings route or do you think he would just be on foot? Haha actually I reckon they would give him wings then his retinue would be on foot only able to move half his distance Edited August 1, 2019 by sebs_evo7 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5355996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 We just need a 40k perty model with his retinue But what will I do then? My warband didn't care much for Perty these last millenia but I will definitely want the model! /_\ sebs_evo7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5356003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I think he'd look best as an oversized Soul Grinder frankly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5357165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 We just need a 40k perty model with his retinue But what will I do then? My warband didn't care much for Perty these last millenia but I will definitely want the model! /_\ Just quickly run around looting fancy tech and gubbinz before he hits real space, you should be good. Give him his presents before he has a chance to yell at you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5357740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I can see him looking like a big Dreadnought or a fleshier Defiler. The humanoid figure with wings primarch thing is getting a bit stale IYAM, and Pert never really screamed agile flyer lol. A big crab bot would be cool now I think of it. I could see him looking like Urgot from League of Legends (spoiler due to size of images): But obviously more Daemonic. .... Likewise, I could see him being kind of similar to his HH Incarnation, but super sized like an Obliterator. Also, if he can fly, why not a Jump Pack? And by that I mean: GIANT HUEG TURBINES instead of wings, like Augustus b'Rass' Nurgle Daemon Prince with the flail. Custodian Athiair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5357854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Does anybody have some recommendations for god alternative Chaos Lord models?I'm looking for something imposing and majestic for my Warsmith, and Forge World haven't released an Iron Warriors character models, so looking around. Anybody? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5358032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Techmarine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5358291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Wait for the iron hands primaris character Alternatively if you can’t wait the current fw iron hands guys look cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/68/#findComment-5358389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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