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[brother_b]

I could do VVs, Assault TDAs, Dreads, SGs, ancients and company vets. No clue what to submit. Ideas?

 

Yes.

 

As in, all of the above.

 

I'm thinking of doing some assault terminators myself. They'll ride along nicely in my Stormraven and seem oh so very BA to me given their amazing kit.

[Reyner]

How are folks equipping Death Company recently? Bolters and Chainswords with a fist or hammer thrown in? 

[Karhedron]

How are folks equipping Death Company recently? Bolters and Chainswords with a fist or hammer thrown in?

I like a couple of power swords in the mix too. 4 points for AP-3 is really handy to have along with Red Thirst. A lot of time the DC can rely on weight of attacks but sometimes the ability to cut through armour effectively is a really solid boost.

[Spagunk]

I have a lot of expensive DC and a lot of not expensive DC. Power swords are a bit of that middle ground where they aren't too expensive.

 

I'd throw a 1 sword for every 5 DC. This is in addition to 1 hammer/fist per 5. Not ideal but definitely helps.

 

Were I of a mind, I'd rip out all the bolt pistols on my DC and swap them for bolters. That's just my opinion though.

Edited March 6, 2018 by Spagunk

[Spagunk]

Need some help with some 30k BA stuff (That can be used in 40k).

 

So I have the following in my basket:
 

Sicaran

Leviathan (With additional Siege drill)

Whirlwind Scorpius

Deredo Dread (Lascannon arms)

MK IV command set

Mk IV pads

BA Transfer sheet

So this brings my total up to 356 GBP. I just recently sold something and have up to 440 GBP (accounted for Tax) now and need some advice to add. I don't have enough for a storm eagle thingy (I also don't hate myself that much) but I dont know if I want to get a xiphon, more Contemptor dreads, Apothecaries + rapiers or what. I already have both Betrayal at Calth and Burning of Prospero so I think I am covered for troops. Any advice?

[Zebulon]

I could do VVs, Assault TDAs, Dreads, SGs, ancients and company vets. No clue what to submit. Ideas?

Sanguinaries would max the PL I believe.

 

I nearly vowed my VV as counts-as Sanguinary Guard but bottled it, 8PL isn’t too bad really especially if I get round to the SV squad as well.

 

I think we have a good chance of winning the Elites.

[Indefragable]

I just moved so unfortunately I haven’t been able to contribute to Blood and Zeal. I had some HQ’s I thought I could knock out before moving...but alas.

[Jolemai]

I just moved so unfortunately I haven’t been able to contribute to Blood and Zeal. I had some HQ’s I thought I could knock out before moving...but alas.

Don't worry about it :tu: hope the move went well :)

[Jolemai]

 

Need some help with some 30k BA stuff (That can be used in 40k).

 

So I have the following in my basket:

 

Sicaran

Leviathan (With additional Siege drill)

Whirlwind Scorpius

Deredo Dread (Lascannon arms)

MK IV command set

Mk IV pads

BA Transfer sheet

 

So this brings my total up to 356 GBP. I just recently sold something and have up to 440 GBP (accounted for Tax) now and need some advice to add. I don't have enough for a storm eagle thingy (I also don't hate myself that much) but I dont know if I want to get a xiphon, more Contemptor dreads, Apothecaries + rapiers or what. I already have both Betrayal at Calth and Burning of Prospero so I think I am covered for troops. Any advice?

Xiphons theoretically mesh well with a Stormraven in a Flyer wing (pricey though) and Rapier Quad Mortars are pretty decent in 8th due to (what was known as) indirect fire. Alternatively, what about a Damocles (either regular or Deimos)?

[Buggane]

Today my codex finally arrived (thanks snowmaggedon). Looking forward to painting some things red!

[Spagunk]

 

Xiphons theoretically mesh well with a Stormraven in a Flyer wing (pricey though) and Rapier Quad Mortars are pretty decent in 8th due to (what was known as) indirect fire. Alternatively, what about a Damocles (either regular or Deimos)?

 

 

Maybe? I mean it's a nice to have item and I kind of feel the Xiphons are that way too.

 

Would maybe a sicaran venator be something to consider? I won't get to field both at the same time in 40k but it would be nice to have in 40k for the big ouchy it brings. Maybe a FW contemptor?

 

The alternative I could bulk up some infantry type items. I feel like getting old 2nd/3rd edition rhinos are just as effective as the FW ones so not keen on getting those at the moment. I had already planned on getting the lascannon kit so maybe pick up the volkite set for a second squad? Furthermore, if I go that route I could then pick up a couple of support characters like the apothecary and legion champions or praetors.

 

Another possibility is to maybe pick up Legio Custodes items too. I have the 5 from the prospero kit, would be handy to have a bit more support like sagitarium or a proper shield captain/jetbike captain. I would imagine a possible small contingent of them could be put on Baal to help Dante in Imperial Nihilus.

[Zebulon]

Fratres,

 

I have done some searching on here but thought I would just seek confirmation. For my B&Z VV Squad is the general consensus that the following loadout would be optimal:

 

2 x pair of Lightning Claws

2 x hammer and shield

Sgt with hammer and plasma pistol

 

?

[Indefragable]

Fratres,

 

I have done some searching on here but thought I would just seek confirmation. For my B&Z VV Squad is the general consensus that the following loadout would be optimal:

 

2 x pair of Lightning Claws

2 x hammer and shield

Sgt with hammer and plasma pistol

 

?

Define “optimal.”

 

Depends on your target and how much a suicide unit you want it to be (in which case DC are probably better).

 

I prefer ablative Wounds if possible.

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

What do people think about equipping death company with power axes, I think the strength bonus would work well with red thirst, wound T4 on a 2+, and they've still got a respectable AP?

[Panzer]

What do people think about equipping death company with power axes, I think the strength bonus would work well with red thirst, wound T4 on a 2+, and they've still got a respectable AP?

The thing is ... why not just take fists then? Wounds even more things on 2+, has better AP and costs less points.

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

 

What do people think about equipping death company with power axes, I think the strength bonus would work well with red thirst, wound T4 on a 2+, and they've still got a respectable AP?

The thing is ... why not just take fists then? Wounds even more things on 2+, has better AP and costs less points.

.

 

True, but with the fists you've got -1 to hit modifier. I want to include a couple of axes cause I think they look bad ass, I was just wondering if they were a half decent option from a gaming perspective, before I go ahead.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Captain Smashy Pants

[Panzer]

If you want some because they look badass then go for it. It's the most important reason to do something in warhammer after all. ;)

Gaming-wise they certainly are a decent choice. Maybe not the ver best but definitely not bad either. They won't disappoint you. ^^

[Majkhel]

What do people think about equipping death company with power axes, I think the strength bonus would work well with red thirst, wound T4 on a 2+, and they've still got a respectable AP?

I wanted to ask that for some time now, but it always slipped my mind - aren't you wunding sth on 2s only if your strengh is 2x targets Toughness? It says so in the rulebook.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Majkhel

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

Power aexes are +1 strength, so strength 5, which wounds T4 on a 3+. Red Thirst adds 1 to your wound roll meaning you'd only need a +2 against T4, with a 1 being a fail no matter what, so a power fist whose strength ends up being double a T4 models toughness, wounding on a 2+ anyway means Red Thirst is technically wasted. However you only need a 2+ to wound T5-7 with a fist which would normally only wound on a 3+, and woundind T8 on a 3+ when normally a 4+ is required.

 

Edit: Red Thirst really is a good chapter tactic, I just realizes that on the charge a Blood Angel's chance of wounding really fought stuff like Knights, Land Raiders et all doubles from 6+ to 5+. Nothing that could be relied on to take the unit out but definitely could help to chip off the last couple of wounds in a pinch.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Captain Smashy Pants

[Majkhel]

Yes, but on what this is based? Because in the rulebook it says:
Is the Strengh TWICE (or more) the the Toughnes -> 2+
Is the Strengh GREATER  the the Toughnes -> 3+

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

Yes, but on what this is based? Because in the rulebook it says:

Is the Strengh TWICE (or more) the the Toughnes -> 2+

Is the Strengh GREATER the the Toughnes -> 3+

It works because you add one to your wound roll when Red Thirst is active. So according to the chart, S5, which is greater than T4 would require a roll of 3+. If you roll a two you add one to that dice roll, making the new result three. Three becomes four, four becomes five and so on. Edited March 7, 2018 by Captain Smashy Pants

[Majkhel]

Aaaaaah this! Right, thanks for clarification! In my mind I simplified it (too much) as a sort-of +1 to strength when in fact this is +1 to wound roll.

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

No worries mate, I had to have it explained to me when the vanilla codex came out and I was looking at the salamanders stratagem that adds 1+ wound with flame weapons, thinking basically the same, that it was 1+ to strength, lol.

[Zebulon]

 

Fratres,

 

I have done some searching on here but thought I would just seek confirmation. For my B&Z VV Squad is the general consensus that the following loadout would be optimal:

 

2 x pair of Lightning Claws

2 x hammer and shield

Sgt with hammer and plasma pistol

 

?

Define “optimal.”

 

Depends on your target and how much a suicide unit you want it to be (in which case DC are probably better).

 

I prefer ablative Wounds if possible.

“Best” :p

 

I suppose I meant “best balance against all comers, in 8th”

 

I barely play in truth but in case I did get a game I am looking to give good account of myself.

 

Better than genitive wounds? Sorry that’s a lame joke. Can you explain “ablative wounds” as it’s one of those terms that I tend to nod sagely at without really understanding what is meant.

[Panzer]

 

 

Fratres,

I have done some searching on here but thought I would just seek confirmation. For my B&Z VV Squad is the general consensus that the following loadout would be optimal:

2 x pair of Lightning Claws

2 x hammer and shield

Sgt with hammer and plasma pistol

?

Define “optimal.”

Depends on your target and how much a suicide unit you want it to be (in which case DC are probably better).

I prefer ablative Wounds if possible.

“Best” :p

I suppose I meant “best balance against all comers, in 8th”

I barely play in truth but in case I did get a game I am looking to give good account of myself.

Better than genitive wounds? Sorry that’s a lame joke. Can you explain “ablative wounds” as it’s one of those terms that I tend to nod sagely at without really understanding what is meant.

Ablative wounds means models in the unit you sacrifice first who don't carry expensive gear. Often with Storm Shields if possible.

Your posted unit wouldn't have any of those. Every model lost would hurt you a lot. I'd probably replace the Lightning Claw ones with Storm Shield+Chainsword ones and take away the Storm Shield from the hammer ones.

Edited March 7, 2018 by sfPanzer